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TU4ever2

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What stuck out to me?

Looks like we got Pooh Williamson/Greg Harrington/Rod Thompson like pg play right now. Tons of assists and limited turn overs. I remember an NCAA tournament where the talk was about how our pg's never turned the ball over.

Teams like that execute in crunch time for wins.
 
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cmullinsTU

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TU4ever2 said:
What stuck out to me?

Looks like we got Pooh Williamson/Greg Harrington/Rod Thompson like pg play right now. Tons of assists and limited turn overs. I remember an NCAA tournament where the talk was about how our pg's never turned the ball over.

Teams like that execute in crunch time for wins.
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And we have a lot of guys that can shoot the 3. We are going to be fun to watch this year.

Question for @I.I. or anyone else that’s seen the team play: Were they still playing matchup zone? If so, are they still leaving the corner 3 wide open?
 
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cmullinsTU said:
And we have a lot of guys that can shoot the 3. We are going to be fun to watch this year.

Question for @I.I. or anyone else that’s seen the team play: Were they still playing matchup zone? If so, are they still leaving the corner 3 wide open?
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If Henderson is still the coach, that corner 3 will always be open based on his philosophy of limited paint touches. Problem is, we end up getting a kid shooting 15% from 3 on the year that comes in and goes 5-7 in the game against us (ala the kid from Cincy 2-3 years ago). My guess is we want that guy to shoot the ball.
 
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TU4ever2

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TU_BLA said:
If Henderson is still the coach, that corner 3 will always be open based on his philosophy of limited paint touches. Problem is, we end up getting a kid shooting 15% from 3 on the year that comes in and goes 5-7 in the game against us (ala the kid from Cincy 2-3 years ago). My guess is we want that guy to shoot the ball.
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Unlike in the NBA where the line turns in for out of bounds on three pointers the corner 3 is the hardest to hit in college and has the least amount of return. This is also true in high school.

The corner also gives two help "defenders" (out of bounds sideline and baseline) to limit the ability of the offensive player to dribble out of it. If good spacing is not kept on offense it allows for "coffin corner" defensive traps where the only good pass tends to be back towards half court on the sideline, or across the defense diagonally. If the baseline and sideline are used properly by defenders this will lead to a good deal of breaks going the opposite way when defenders jump the passing lanes.

The improved shooting level of most college players over the years have made this defense less efficient. However it's still the best shot for the defense to allow. The backboard can't help the shooter for the most part and shots come short or go long allowing low post defenders easy rebounding positions and block outs against even superior talent.
 
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TU4ever2 said:
Unlike in the NBA where the line turns in for out of bounds on three pointers the corner 3 is the hardest to hit in college and has the least amount of return. This is also true in high school.

The corner also gives two help "defenders" (out of bounds sideline and baseline) to limit the ability of the offensive player to dribble out of it. If good spacing is not kept on offense it allows for "coffin corner" defensive traps where the only good pass tends to be back towards half court on the sideline, or across the defense diagonally. If the baseline and sideline are used properly by defenders this will lead to a good deal of breaks going the opposite way when defenders jump the passing lanes.

The improved shooting level of most college players over the years have made this defense less efficient. However it's still the best shot for the defense to allow. The backboard can't help the shooter for the most part and shots come short or go long allowing low post defenders easy rebounding positions and block outs against even superior talent.
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Statistically true in general but, we can give up 9-15 points on these on any given night.
 
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astonmartin708_rivals

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TU4ever2 said:
Unlike in the NBA where the line turns in for out of bounds on three pointers the corner 3 is the hardest to hit in college and has the least amount of return. This is also true in high school.

The corner also gives two help "defenders" (out of bounds sideline and baseline) to limit the ability of the offensive player to dribble out of it. If good spacing is not kept on offense it allows for "coffin corner" defensive traps where the only good pass tends to be back towards half court on the sideline, or across the defense diagonally. If the baseline and sideline are used properly by defenders this will lead to a good deal of breaks going the opposite way when defenders jump the passing lanes.

The improved shooting level of most college players over the years have made this defense less efficient. However it's still the best shot for the defense to allow. The backboard can't help the shooter for the most part and shots come short or go long allowing low post defenders easy rebounding positions and block outs against even superior talent.
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Do you have any data or articles on this?
 
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