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bornaneer

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Questioning if Russian leader wants peace or is just 'tapping me along'.

President Donald Trump has expressed doubts that Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to end its war with Ukraine which has raged for more than three years.

Trump took to Truth Social on Saturday to express his growing frustration with the Russian leader in a week that saw Russia launch a deadly missile attack on Kyiv. The Thursday attack on Ukraine killed 12 people and injured at least 90, including children.

"There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities and towns, over the last few days," Trump wrote, shortly after he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the Vatican on Saturday for Pope Francis’ funeral.

"It makes me think that maybe he doesn’t want to stop the war, he’s just tapping me along, and has to be dealt with differently, through ‘Banking’ or ‘Secondary Sanctions?’ Too many people are dying!!!"
 

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Questioning if Russian leader wants peace or is just 'tapping me along'.

President Donald Trump has expressed doubts that Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to end its war with Ukraine which has raged for more than three years.

Trump took to Truth Social on Saturday to express his growing frustration with the Russian leader in a week that saw Russia launch a deadly missile attack on Kyiv. The Thursday attack on Ukraine killed 12 people and injured at least 90, including children.

"There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities and towns, over the last few days," Trump wrote, shortly after he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the Vatican on Saturday for Pope Francis’ funeral.

"It makes me think that maybe he doesn’t want to stop the war, he’s just tapping me along, and has to be dealt with differently, through ‘Banking’ or ‘Secondary Sanctions?’ Too many people are dying!!!"
Once you realize the globalists want the war, it all makes sense. War is another money laundering scheme that likely involves both countries leaders at war and those countries who supply the “aid” in the war. Russia could easily take what they want from Ukraine and it would end in no time. Let’s not forget they also have weapons of mass destruction.
 

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Questioning if Russian leader wants peace or is just 'tapping me along'.

President Donald Trump has expressed doubts that Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to end its war with Ukraine which has raged for more than three years.

Trump took to Truth Social on Saturday to express his growing frustration with the Russian leader in a week that saw Russia launch a deadly missile attack on Kyiv. The Thursday attack on Ukraine killed 12 people and injured at least 90, including children.

"There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities and towns, over the last few days," Trump wrote, shortly after he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the Vatican on Saturday for Pope Francis’ funeral.

"It makes me think that maybe he doesn’t want to stop the war, he’s just tapping me along, and has to be dealt with differently, through ‘Banking’ or ‘Secondary Sanctions?’ Too many people are dying!!!"
Putin isn’t stopping the fighting. I’m shocked. We’ve been saying all along that Biff is simply a pawn on Putin’s chessboard.
 

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We’ve been saying all along that Biff is simply a pawn on Putin’s chessboard.
Yeah sure...and while Putin was building up his forces for almost a full year threatening to invade Ukraine (something he never tried while Trump was in charge btw) creepy Joe Biden who YOU voted for was playing "Chinese checkers" with Communist party leader Xi! (for money no less!) :rolleyes:

Go back into hibernation, coming out now and embarrassing yourself trying to attack Trump who you had going to jail last time you were on here making a fool of yourself, not only looks pedestrian but desperate.

Run along loser...
 
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Putin isn’t stopping the fighting. I’m shocked. We’ve been saying all along that Biff is simply a pawn on Putin’s chessboard.

You will be on the draft board if a peace deal can't be brokered. So maybe you should start rooting for that instead dumbass.
 

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You will be on the draft board if a peace deal can't be brokered. So maybe you should start rooting for that instead dumbass.
They look for any opportunity to attack Trump because nothing else they've tried works.

You tellin' me?


Well I sure wouldn't debate him again let me tell 'ya!
 

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They look for any opportunity to attack Trump because nothing else they've tried works.

You tellin' me?


Well I sure wouldn't debate him again let me tell 'ya!


If the United States and Russia went to war that would start a chain reaction that leads to chaos all over the globe. Trump didn't allow the **** to get out of Control. That was Obama and Biden. I would recommend everyone to root for Trump to broker a peace deal.
 

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So tell us creepy Joe, how come @bamaEER , @moe @sammyk and the rest of your unrepentant Leftist cabal abandoned you so quickly when you were supposedly "at the top of your game" prior to that disastrous debate?

They never even gave me a second chance either atl....it wasn't fair...waaah..... haaaaa.....

Damn creepy Joe, cheer up...at least you got to play President for a few years!
 

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So tell us creepy Joe, how come @bamaEER , @moe @sammyk and the rest of your unrepentant Leftist cabal abandoned you so quickly when you were supposedly "at the top of your game" prior to that disastrous debate?

They never even gave me a second chance either atl....it wasn't fair...waaah..... haaaaa.....

Damn creepy Joe, cheer up...at least you got to play President for a few years!


Biden is capable of standing trial or the pardons he signed are invalid. It's one or the other.



 

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He has a D.O.J. capable of filing charges. I'm waiting.


If we end up in a War with Russia, Iran, China and their allies. The DOJ will be the least of some of their concerns. Technically we were already at War. Some of them weren't on our side. So they better hope Trump can stop it from going any farther. A Proxy War is still War.
 

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If we end up in a War with Russia, Iran, China and their allies. The DOJ will be the least of some of their concerns. Technically we were already at War. Some of them weren't on our side. So they better hope Trump can stop it from going any farther. A Proxy War is still War.
I'm Praying for Peace @Gunny46
 

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I'm Praying for Peace @Gunny46

Everyone should do that. While understanding Trump wasn't the one giving Uranium to our adversaries. Dropping off pallets of cash in Iran. Allowing Venezuela and other Cartels to flood our Country with Drugs, Human Trafficking, and MAM. Allowing Russia to Invade Ukraine so they could funnel money back to political organizations. Allowing the CCP to do everything they have done to us. I could go on but Everyone should get my point. I'm rooting for peace too. We might just need to hang some people and drop some bigger bombs for a little bit to get there. Because our enemies don't seem to want to surrender just yet.
 

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Chaos at the Pentagon was:- the disastrous Afghanistan surrender & 13 American service members dead- a divisive DEI culture that destroyed service member moral- weak leadership that led to Russia invading Ukraine, Hamas attacking Israel, & Houthi rebels shooting at U.S. ships-the invasion of our US southern border by transnational criminal gangsDuring all that chaos, not a single person was fired or held accountable & Senator Shaheen stayed silent. Just stop with the performative nonsense. Our military readiness is better than it’s ever been under Secretary Hegseth & President Trump.
 

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Everyone should do that. While understanding Trump wasn't the one giving Uranium to our adversaries. Dropping off pallets of cash in Iran. Allowing Venezuela and other Cartels to flood our Country with Drugs, Human Trafficking, and MAM. Allowing Russia to Invade Ukraine so they could funnel money back to political organizations. Allowing the CCP to do everything they have done to us. I could go on but Everyone should get my point. I'm rooting for peace too. We might just need to hang some people and drop some bigger bombs for a little bit to get there. Because our enemies don't seem to want to surrender just yet.
No you want to bomb Venezuela, Russia, and China too?

Good grief.....
 

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No you want to bomb Venezuela, Russia, and China too?

Good grief.....

Are you retarded? Because that would explain your comprehension problems. China is already at War with us hence why we are doing what we are with the tarriffs and other moves. Venezuela has been dumping drugs and gang members into our Country to destabilize it with China’s assistance. What you are seeing is us pushing back using multiple tactics to do so. Trump has asked them all nicely to knock the **** off. Maybe they should accept his terms while he's being generous. You can go hide underneath your bed if that's too scary for you. The fact is we have been at war for decades. You can be on the United States side or the side of those that have allowed it. Personally I want to hang those that allowed so they could profit or even worse align with the ideology of destroying our Country from within.
 
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Trump rugged Ukraine and has appeased Putin every step of the way. Started off by taking away every Ukraine bargaining chip while accusing Ukraine of starting the war. Witless Witkoff just repeats Russian talking points. Watching America do a 180 and support the aggressor is sad indeed. Trump said he'd settle the war before he ever took the oath. I expect MAGA believed that since they hang on his every lying word. Trump is a Russian asset.
 

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Trump rugged Ukraine and has appeased Putin every step of the way. Started off by taking away every Ukraine bargaining chip while accusing Ukraine of starting the war. Witless Witkoff just repeats Russian talking points. Watching America do a 180 and support the aggressor is sad indeed. Trump said he'd settle the war before he ever took the oath. I expect MAGA believed that since they hang on his every lying word. Trump is a Russian asset.

There's no good guy on either side of that conflict and it's basically a civil war of like minded crooks. You picking the side of the Azov Battlion isn't a good look though.
 

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Trump rugged Ukraine and has appeased Putin every step of the way. Started off by taking away every Ukraine bargaining chip while accusing Ukraine of starting the war. Witless Witkoff just repeats Russian talking points. Watching America do a 180 and support the aggressor is sad indeed. Trump said he'd settle the war before he ever took the oath. I expect MAGA believed that since they hang on his every lying word. Trump is a Russian asset.
There's no good guy on either side of that conflict and it's basically a civil war of like minded crooks. You picking the side of the Azov Battlion isn't a good look though.

Why did Biden lift this ban from 2018 from giving Neo-Nazis weapons?



US lifts ban on sending weapons to Ukraine’s Azov brigade​


Maybe we should bomb them both?




Trump assassination attempt suspect Ryan Routh sought rocket launcher from Ukraine: docs​

Ryan Routh allegedly planned to kill President Donald Trump at his golf club in West Palm Beach, Florida​

 
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Trump rugged Ukraine and has appeased Putin every step of the way. Started off by taking away every Ukraine bargaining chip while accusing Ukraine of starting the war. Witless Witkoff just repeats Russian talking points. Watching America do a 180 and support the aggressor is sad indeed. Trump said he'd settle the war before he ever took the oath. I expect MAGA believed that since they hang on his every lying word. Trump is a Russian asset.
Your history is wrong @moe , and your understanding of this issue has been distorted by American news media propaganda.

This issue is over Crimea, which ironically Russia seized during the last failed Democrat administration!

Who me?????

Yeah YOU Zero! 😏

At any rate, Trump understands there is no way Ukraine demands to return Crimea can ever be enforced, so he's calling a spade a spade to simply end the pointless conflict. Neither side can win, so why fight? What for?

Trump has a plan for both countries to save face, but both are determined to save their individual "face" just so they can continue in their corrupt ways. Trump is simply trying to end the blood draining conflict, and one way or the other he hopes to drive both losers to understand there's nothing for either of them to gain if this needless conflict continues. (@moe could learn the same lesson btw) 😏

Here @moe ...some less "biased" history on the Russian/Ukrainian conflict:

Why Crimea is so important to Russia and Ukraine

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The peninsula, which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014, has long been coveted by Moscow, which wants Ukraine to officially surrender the territory as part of a peace deal - something Ukraine does not want to do. Volodymyr Zelenskyy has rejected this on multiple occasions, saying that formally surrendering the land has always been a red line, and goes against Kyiv's constitution.

...more
Russian annexation

In 2013-14, a popular uprising gripped Ukraine for several weeks, eventually forcing pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovych from office. While Ukraine was in turmoil, Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to send troops to overrun Crimea, a diamond-shaped peninsula in the Black Sea.


So you see @moe , Russia had already taken over Crimea as I said above...Trump had nothing to do with it, but he understands it's the lynchpin to doing a deal to end this war!

...more
Those troops arrived in Crimea in uniforms without insignia, and Mr. Putin soon called a vote on joining Russia that Ukraine and the West dismissed as illegal. Moscow's illegal annexation on 18 March 2014 was only recognized internationally by a few countries, including North Korea and Sudan.
Russia has spent centuries fighting for Crimea. It was transferred from Russia to Ukraine in 1954 by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, when both were part of the USSR. In 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed, the peninsula became part of an independent Ukraine.

By the time Russia seized it, Crimea had been a part of Ukraine for 60 years and had become part of the country's identity.

...finally
Mr. Zelenskyy has vowed Russia "won't be able to steal" the peninsula. For both sides, Crimea is key to controlling activities in the Black Sea, which is a critical corridor for the world's grain and other goods.

So there 'ya have it @moe ...the crux of the issue which Trump alone is trying to solve. There is nothing in what I've passed along to you here that says Trump is trying to pave the way for Russia to "seize" Crimea or take over Ukraine. As I said, Trump as a plan to both save/protect Ukraine, and isolate Russia if it persists in this war.

The trouble is your thought controllers in the Praetorian Guard legacy media are as comatose over this issue as you are. :rolleyes:

What leverage does Trump have over Russia in Ukraine peace negotiations? Quite a lot, experts say

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Only days after U.S. President Donald Trump returned to the White House, he dialed up the heat on Russia with a threat of sanctions, tariffs, and negotiating "the hard way" if Russian President Vladimir Putin fails to come to the table for a peace deal with Ukraine. Russia’s economy is showing signs of weakness, making Putin more vulnerable than ever to additional economic pressure like sanctions. Ramped-up support for Ukraine on the battlefield could add to Russia’s mounting losses and further incentivize dealmaking, as would uniting support among allies and squeezing Russia on the diplomatic stage.

"A long war doesn’t hurt Trump very much. There's no huge cost to the U.S. economy. No U.S. lives are in danger," said Ash, adding that a large portion of U.S. military aid has been reinvested in its domestic defense industry. "Trump can carry on, whereas for Putin, it just gets more difficult for him the longer it goes."

Thus the makings of a deal...

I'm working on it


@moe
I would get mad that my mind controllers in legacy media have lied so much to me about Ukraine, but I have TDS so I don't care.
 
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In 2013-14, a popular uprising gripped Ukraine for several weeks, eventually forcing pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovych from office. While Ukraine was in turmoil, Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to send troops to overrun Crimea, a diamond-shaped peninsula in the Black Sea.

The peninsula, which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014

Mr. Putin soon called a vote on joining Russia that Ukraine and the West dismissed as illegal. Moscow's illegal annexation on 18 March 2014 was only recognized internationally by a few countries, including North Korea and Sudan.

Help me out on this....Who was the POTUS when all the above took place ?
 

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In 2013-14, a popular uprising gripped Ukraine for several weeks, eventually forcing pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovych from office. While Ukraine was in turmoil, Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to send troops to overrun Crimea, a diamond-shaped peninsula in the Black Sea.

The peninsula, which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014

Mr. Putin soon called a vote on joining Russia that Ukraine and the West dismissed as illegal. Moscow's illegal annexation on 18 March 2014 was only recognized internationally by a few countries, including North Korea and Sudan.

Help me out on this....Who was the POTUS when all the above took place ?

I remember when he said this. For those that don't know Putin was Prime Minister and these two are tight.

Eventually everyone will figure out what's really going on here.







Putin ally says 'Ukraine is Russia' and historical territory needs to 'come home'​






CNN —
Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of Russia’s Security Council and key ally of President Vladimir Putin, warned on Thursday that defeat for Russia in Ukraine could lead to nuclear conflict.

The former Russian president made the threat in a Telegram post ahead of a key meeting of NATO allies and other nations in Germany, where they are expected to make additional pledges of military support to Kyiv.
 
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In 2013-14, a popular uprising gripped Ukraine for several weeks, eventually forcing pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovych from office. While Ukraine was in turmoil, Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to send troops to overrun Crimea, a diamond-shaped peninsula in the Black Sea.

The peninsula, which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014

Mr. Putin soon called a vote on joining Russia that Ukraine and the West dismissed as illegal. Moscow's illegal annexation on 18 March 2014 was only recognized internationally by a few countries, including North Korea and Sudan.

Help me out on this....Who was the POTUS when all the above took place ?
Hi there! Remember me?
 

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Hi there! Remember me?

Do people not Understand that Zelensky was born in the USSR, Spoke Russian growing up, and use to live in Moscow? Just thought I would point that out for those that trust him or Putin. As far as I know him and Putin don't care how many they kill as long as we keep paying for it.
 

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Do people not Understand that Zelensky was born in the USSR, Spoke Russian growing up, and use to live in Moscow? Just thought I would point that out for those that trust him or Putin. As far as I know him and Putin don't care how many they kill as long as we keep paying for it.
Exactly!
 

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In 2013-14, a popular uprising gripped Ukraine for several weeks, eventually forcing pro-Moscow president Viktor Yanukovych from office. While Ukraine was in turmoil, Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to send troops to overrun Crimea, a diamond-shaped peninsula in the Black Sea.

The peninsula, which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014

Mr. Putin soon called a vote on joining Russia that Ukraine and the West dismissed as illegal. Moscow's illegal annexation on 18 March 2014 was only recognized internationally by a few countries, including North Korea and Sudan.

Help me out on this....Who was the POTUS when all the above took place ?
OK so.... @moe you posted this 🤣 in response to @bornaneer 's question of who sat by and did nothing as Russia invaded Crimea?

Was my answer to him in post # 26 incorrect? What's the reason for this 🤣from you in the response to his question?

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Aw 'cmon atl, if you of all people don't know by now that whenever I do that it means I've been caught and trapped by my own demented hubris when it comes to Democrats, then I'm done tryin' to convince 'ya!

Yeah but you posted earlier ITT that Trump "rugged Ukraine and has appeased Putin every step of the way". So I pointed out that in fact it was the guy who you voted for (O'Bama) who "rugged" Ukraine and appeased Putin by doing absolutely nothing as Russia invaded Crimea in 2014! How can you be so blinded by simple facts?

@moe
Explaining that is too complicated atl, Hell facts even confuse me! Just leave it up to my TDS, and you're covered OK?

OK @moe :rolleyes:
 
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