Trey Palmer
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I still think financially it makes sense for Trey to probably come back next year. As good as he’s been, it’s still a secret. Look at some of the mock draft boards and they have him low. At best he possibly creeps into 2nd or 3rd round and when you factor in NIL, how wouldn’t be making that much more money in the NFL vs staying. Also consider if he comes back and dominates next year and climbs to a first rounder he will make substantially more money on his rookie contract. easily pick up another $13MM on his first contract and again, now with NIL it’s not like he’s broke. He will make good money coming back
You're right. He's 3rd, 4th or 5th in almost every stat, behind a few group of 5 players. Charlie jones is the one Power 5 players leasing him in any stat (Total receptions, Total yards) he's also played one more game.
That's an area I hadn't thought of... NU has lost some good talent over the years that took a risk registering early for the draft instead of building their stock as a player for a higher draft pick... NIL money should be a benefit to both college & the pros... guys stick around longer at school to get better which helps the program and the NFL gets better/more proven guys entering the draft.... interesting
21 and 22 year old kids who are draftable will often forego remaining eligibility for the money, as opposed to stay around an extra season and potentially getting injured.
My guess is that’s what we’ll see here. Would love for him to stay and you make a very compelling argument, but is it good enough for him to stay another year? Guess we’ll find out.
He’s still pretty raw with regards to route running and he’s not the most physical at the point of the catch
probably middle of the pack in terms of hands but his elite speed makes up for all of it, especially in our plodding league
combine will be interesting. I think he’s Day 2 material if he can show out when it matters a la Wan’Dale
probably middle of the pack in terms of hands but his elite speed makes up for all of it, especially in our plodding league
combine will be interesting. I think he’s Day 2 material if he can show out when it matters a la Wan’Dale
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I believe only the first 20-25 picks have fully guaranteed contracts- so after that an injury can cost you in the NFL as well
the first pick in the 3rd round round gets you a 1.18 million signing bonus and a 1 million per year x 4 years (all rookie contracts are 4 years) - non guaranteed after late first round
NIL would have to get you around 2 million to equal what the 1st year 65th pick NFL contract would yield - obviously if you stay in college and improve your draft stock then the next year NFL contract would be more
also need to weigh in that if you perform in the NFL you want to get to free agency as soon as possible (the team can negotiate after year 3 and pick up a 5th year option that is fully guaranteed)
staying in college delays you getting to free agency
Exactly, he's a mid-rounder at best right now. He's good, but I think Husker fans are getting a little carried away. He doesn't look like a first or second round pick to me, and for the reasons you mentioned. The most concerning thing to me is the lack of physicality at the catch which has led to interceptions.
I also don't think Whipp has him running a huge route tree, partly because that's not the offense, but mostly because he doesn't have to
some of the double moves he runs are mere suggestions lol
Charlie Jones is a damn good receiver. I thought the comments by one of the announcers was pretty dumb, he’s a good athlete. He was returning punts at Iowa and was very shifty from what I recall.
Stats aren't the end all be all thing for a draft...have you watched Marvin Harrison Jr? It isn't even close IMO there.
Agree with this. Palmer was a fantastic 'get' for NU and he's the best reason to watch a Husker game, but that doesn't make him a first-rounder.
That’s was a true statement before NIL. Kids are already getting paid now in college. We’ve already seen this in basketball last year. Kids coming back because they were making very good money on NIL and have a shot to majorly improve their draft position which means everything to pay.
just look at Palmers position in last years draft.
-Garrett Wilson (1st round) made $20MM over 4 years and all $20MM is guaranteed
-George Pickens (2nd round) made $6MM over 4 years $3MM guaranteed.
-Jalen Tolbert (3rd round) made $4MM over 4 years & $900k guaranteed
Timnsun - I have a CPA and 16 years of experience in finance and accounting but it doesn’t take that to figure out what’s the better pay out here. And when you add in the fact that Palmer probably bring in at least $500k for returning, going for the gold (aka first round guaranteed jackpot) is worth the risk today
I get it, NIL is a game changer for sure. Just don’t know how much NIL money Palmer is making compared to what might be out there via NFL.
I guess my bigger point was sustaining an injury next year that leaves you undrafted. If he is gonna be a lower round draft pick next spring, by all means, come back. If projected to be drafted in the first three rounds, I could still see him go.
Just my opinion of course, I could be totally wrong.
Don’t get me wrong, a career ending injury is always a risk but the chances of that are really small. think the reward of going for the big time pay is worth it now, especially with NIL.
look Jordan Addison last year. He came back. Don’t think even with the hardware he was a projected first rounder. The very top WRs get paid and the drop in pay from 1st to 2nd is extremely. Think Addison thought hed earn decent in LA and improve his stock
NFL loves raw athleticism, and 40 yd dash times are as objective as it gets. Henry Ruggs was NFL round 1 for that very reason.
Route running, technique, and game prep can be improved with coaching. Elite speed cannot. Palmer has elite speed.
And, he produces in games.
Route running, technique, and game prep can be improved with coaching. Elite speed cannot. Palmer has elite speed.
And, he produces in games.
Ruggs also put up some big college numbers on maybe the deepest WR core of all time that won a nat. Jeudy, waddle, smith, and him. It’s not that I think Palmer shouldnt be top round and I agree I bet his combine would blow people away. but I think he needs another year to really showcase to move in the first round. He just won’t have film to risk a 1st round pick on. Remember his LSU film wasn’t great
Mickey will let him know if he’s ready. But Mickey has to be here for him to tell him if he’s not Jefferson or Chase yet
Mickey will let him know if he’s ready. But Mickey has to be here for him to tell him if he’s not Jefferson or Chase yet
I wouldn't be surprised to see him stick around if MJ is still the head coach. If we upend everything, for sure he is gone, but I like the odds of him coming back if things stay as they are.
Those saying Palmer should stay for another year are looking through scarlet-colored glasses. I wish he would. But he shouldn’t.
I don't see Palmer as a first round talent at all. He's more likely to go undrafted than he is first round. I remember Tanner Lee and Adrian being hyped as first round draft picks and it just makes Husker fans look stupid. If they watched football around the country, they'd realize he's a mid-round talent at best. He's playing the same role Wandale did, getting a ton of targets and racking up yards against bad teams because he's the only one who's a threat. Palmer is nowhere near a player like Ruggs and the comparison is just silly. Ruggs had better hands, ran crisper routes, and had better football speed.
Man you just basically hate Nebraska and are a grumpy old man. Why do come to this board, just to spread your unhappiness?
And no way in helllll Trey goes undrafted. Palmer has elite speed and he is a top tier talent. I’m ok with people complaining at things that deserve it. It’s been tuff being a Husker fan and we all have become very pessimistic but dam, when you start extremely underating things that are actually good and I mean really good maybe you need to rethink this whole thing and think about is it healthy for you to be a Husker fan or does it just bring out the ugly in you?
What's with your grumpy "king of the lonely mountain" pessimist takes? I guess Nebraska sucking takes it's toll on some...
Just OldJar being OldJar… he can’t help himself.
You would think if Palmer is the only talent on our team, these bad teams would double him, bracket him, do whatever it takes to make sure he can’t hurt them. And yet, he still is highly effective.
Undrafted, lol… guess we’ll just have to bookmark this and come back to it later.
You would think if Palmer is the only talent on our team, these bad teams would double him, bracket him, do whatever it takes to make sure he can’t hurt them. And yet, he still is highly effective.
Undrafted, lol… guess we’ll just have to bookmark this and come back to it later.
Oh gee, I don't know, why would 8 years of pure **** football make me unhappy? Should I be happy that we suck like everybody else? And we've been through this before. Any guy who shows even an inkling of talent gets way overhyped by our fans because they don't watch football around the country and don't know any better. No Palmer is not a top round draft talent. No Grant is not a top 5 RB in the country. They're good players for us, but let's just leave it at that. I don't see the need to way overhype their abilities above what they really are.
It’s what fans do. From every university. I don’t see the need to be grumpy every time the opportunity arises. Let’s just leave it at that.
Palmer probably will judge a draft analysis, whether Mickey is still in Lincoln and NIL opportunities. I would think he bolts if a 1st or 2nd round selection is in the cards. otoh, Suh could have gone after his junior year, as he was beasting at the end of that season. But he decided to stay, had a legendary year and won a bunch of awards, and went second overall in the draft.