Top "Chess" players out there . . .

bob5150

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A disgruntled DeAngelo Evans once said, "Coach Osborne was playing chess out there. Solich is playing checkers."

Satt looks more like a Checkers guy, especially in the 2nd half. What playcallers out there today are the known chess players in CFB playcalling?
 
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I don’t know their names, but the best OCs are those that score a TD on every play call. The next tier are the OCs who team averages more than 35 PPG, regardless of opponent and game conditions. 😀
 

bama_husker

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Seems like there are two modes with our offense: aggressive, where they are pretty good, and conservative, where they are completely ineffective. Whether that's Satt or not I don't know.
 

AreaCode308

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A disgruntled DeAngelo Evans once said, "Coach Osborne was playing chess out there. Solich is playing checkers."

Satt looks more like a Checkers guy, especially in the 2nd half. What playcallers out there today are the known chess players in CFB playcalling?
Agree, TO was one of a kind, a generational play caller and offensive minds! I am not a fan of Satterfield, yes he calls some good plays but his total offensive strategy and identity escapes me, especially in the second half, his adjustments are head scratchers! Instead of a defined strategy from seeing their D in the first half, it’s more like throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks, checkers would be an improvement!!
 

SickOfPractice

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Seems like there are two modes with our offense: aggressive, where they are pretty good, and conservative, where they are completely ineffective. Whether that's Satt or not I don't know.
Same feeling here. With what Satt had to work with last year, and deal with (turnovers), I feel like this is Satt's first year calling his offense.

Many of us watched TO for so many years that it was obvious where he was going with his play calling. TO would regularly probe things like an off tackle run early in a game... it wouldn't generate many yards... and then he fakes that play and goes somewhere else with the ball. It was beautiful and very chess-like.

I'd have to watch a LOT more of Satt before I begin to understand what he's trying to do ultimately.
 

cavalot

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Same feeling here. With what Satt had to work with last year, and deal with (turnovers), I feel like this is Satt's first year calling his offense.

Many of us watched TO for so many years that it was obvious where he was going with his play calling. TO would regularly probe things like an off tackle run early in a game... it wouldn't generate many yards... and then he fakes that play and goes somewhere else with the ball. It was beautiful and very chess-like.

I'd have to watch a LOT more of Satt before I begin to understand what he's trying to do ultimately.
TO would get eaten alive in today's day and age of college football. No way would the modern fan be patient enough to watch his offense in the early part of games.
 

GBRforLife1

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Agree, TO was one of a kind, a generational play caller and offensive minds! I am not a fan of Satterfield, yes he calls some good plays but his total offensive strategy and identity escapes me, especially in the second half, his adjustments are head scratchers! Instead of a defined strategy from seeing their D in the first half, it’s more like throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks, checkers would be an improvement!!
Oh jfc. So many people were constantly pissed at T.O. and his play calling. Was constantly told that he runs too much and needs to spread teams out more.
 
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Seems like there are two modes with our offense: aggressive, where they are pretty good, and conservative, where they are completely ineffective. Whether that's Satt or not I don't know.
We should just play like we’re in a 2 minute drill all the time. Or just run every play. Switch between the 2.
 
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Agree, TO was one of a kind, a generational play caller and offensive minds! I am not a fan of Satterfield, yes he calls some good plays but his total offensive strategy and identity escapes me, especially in the second half, his adjustments are head scratchers! Instead of a defined strategy from seeing their D in the first half, it’s more like throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks, checkers would be an improvement!!
It's like Game of Thrones.

Glen Thomas hands him a script and working off if that looks great. But when they get beyond it, things go to hell.
 
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TO would get eaten alive in today's day and age of college football. No way would the modern fan be patient enough to watch his offense in the early part of games.
Interesting comment. TO himself has stated that his offense WOULD, in fact, be effective in this “modern” age of college football. I suppose there were some “chess like” decisions TO made during the course of a game, but the overriding factor he enjoyed so much success is simply because of the “option” part of a run play. TO referred to it as a “shell game” not a chess game. With a QB running the ball he always had the choice of giving it to another guy trailing him—wasn’t easy to defend then and not easy to defend now.
 

Antwill

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You might want to be careful what you wish for. I've heard Rhule say on several occasions he would have been more conservative with his play call then Satt was. Maybe just coach speech to make Satt look good, but maybe not.
 

cavalot

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Interesting comment. TO himself has stated that his offense WOULD, in fact, be effective in this “modern” age of college football. I suppose there were some “chess like” decisions TO made during the course of a game, but the overriding factor he enjoyed so much success is simply because of the “option” part of a run play. TO referred to it as a “shell game” not a chess game. With a QB running the ball he always had the choice of giving it to another guy trailing him—wasn’t easy to defend then and not easy to defend now.
I believe it could be effective. Just not sure the modern fan would be patient enough to see it be successful.
 

cavalot

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I’d like to nominate this post for **** Take of the Year.
Why? Do you believe that today's fans want to see short side options, and QB's that can't throw more than PA passes? Do you think fans would have the patience to run the ball and have to punt multiple times early in the game in order to set up the PA pass later or to wear down our opponent?

I think you should reevaluate your nomination. Pretty shallow take considering our recent history with coaching changes and today's "i need it now," fanbase. How did it work out for Frank? Same offense. Better competition. There is no way that today's fan base would stay the course throughout a game little lone a season.
 

cavalot

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Modern fan? wtf you talking about ?
WTF do you mean wtf am I talking about? Today's college fan...Hell 20 years ago college fan. Has no patience for wearing a team down with a run game. We live in an instant gratification society. Just read this board any given Saturday.

There is no way TO's short side options, 5-7 passes in the first half, setting them up for the second half offensive play calling would cut it today. Many of you forget what the 70's and 80's looked like against teams with a pulse. It took time and patience to get the offense rolling.

Not cutting it today.
 

cavalot

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ya i loved watching the 90s teams wear down a defense
Ya with all Americans all over the field. What would it look like with NU's teams of the last 15 years? You think that offense is going to pull in a bunch of top tier recruits in today's day and age?

I loved the Huskers of old as much as anyone, but those days are gone and that offensive style won't fit in today's college game. Not from a fans or players standpoint.
 

Man Woman & Child

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Ya with all Americans all over the field. What would it look like with NU's teams of the last 15 years? You think that offense is going to pull in a bunch of top tier recruits in today's day and age?

I loved the Huskers of old as much as anyone, but those days are gone and that offensive style won't fit in today's college game. Not from a fans or players standpoint.

And therefore, it would not be effective today. Hence why nobody does it today. At least not with any success.
 

TampaBaySkers

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WTF do you mean wtf am I talking about? Today's college fan...Hell 20 years ago college fan. Has no patience for wearing a team down with a run game. We live in an instant gratification society. Just read this board any given Saturday.

There is no way TO's short side options, 5-7 passes in the first half, setting them up for the second half offensive play calling would cut it today. Many of you forget what the 70's and 80's looked like against teams with a pulse. It took time and patience to get the offense rolling.

Not cutting it today.
Wrong. Do a poll on this board if we should be a run oriented or pass oriented team.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Ya with all Americans all over the field. What would it look like with NU's teams of the last 15 years? You think that offense is going to pull in a bunch of top tier recruits in today's day and age?

I loved the Huskers of old as much as anyone, but those days are gone and that offensive style won't fit in today's college game. Not from a fans or players standpoint.
I remember the same fools saying a mobile qb won’t work in the NFL 🤣
 

cavalot

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I remember the same fools saying a mobile qb won’t work in the NFL 🤣
That has nothing to do with what we are talking about. There's a difference between a mobile QB and an option based offense. Of course you know that, you just like to try to twist the topic.

Bottom line Today's fans and players would not support or play in that type of offense.