Sometimes you just have to admit you screwed up. This was a mistake of a hire, a complete disaster, an abject failure. Five wins is absolutely unheard of and the sunshine pumpers on this board can save their “we have no talent” argument. Yes, it’s true, our talent level sucks, but this is a very poorly coached team.
Time to nip it!
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You wouldn’t know because he and doughe do nothing but name call. There’s nothing to back up their arguments.
Give him a pass...
Next year, I am unleashing crazy stuff.
I would ban me now. Just get it over with, Chris!! Trust me.
That’s creepy, even for you.
We are all for a preseason self permaban. It can start now.
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Coach K would be lucky to win 6 games with the talent on that bench!
I understand what you are saying, but sometimes the inability to play is because you have
an inability to learn...In other words, you are only coachable to a point...Our shooting guards
are prime examples of that....They were both 4th year players who only played matador
defense, and didn't advance a lick during the season....You have to believe they would have
busted their butts to do what ever it took to stay on the floor so they could shoot, shoot,
shoot......But no....Somehow both felt because of whatever experiences they had in the past,
that defense, rebounding, and assisting simply weren't part of their job descriptions, and
they were therefore virtually absent in those areas of the game...."I don't need to do that
because I score our points" seemed to be their motto, and they never came around to being
positives for the team....
Others on the team had physical shortfalls, or simply had talent ceilings below that required
to play at this level.....
Your points are valid, but only to the limits of this squad's capacity to learn....I'm not too sure
it was very high.....
Amen. Very good points.
What are we supposed to do when our actual PG has been out for a month or more? We are down to playing a walk on, I'm sure he's a good kid, but playing him at this level just doesn't work. I saw many good plays run with good looks at the basket and....brick. These people blaming this year on Konkol need to get a clue. The real judging can begin NOW.
I'm saying you can't judge the coaching AT ALL based on this season.
Comparing this year to any of those years doesn't make sense. Konkol knows how to coach, he didn't just forget overnight. Goodness people. If we are sitting here next year in the same situation then I'll jump on board, but let the man have a full offseason to get this roster right. THAT'S the issue, not the coaching.
Question: Did Greg Popovich, arguable a top 3 NBA coach of all time, forget how to coach? Yea nah.
The talent is a disaster. There was only 8 scholarship players available at the end and ones so bad he only played in blowouts. Three of them are freshmen. Haith destroyed the roster at the end.
It's what Haith does. Gragg should have been fired for making that hire, honestly. Just an absolute disaster.
That's why I'm flummoxed that posters I thought knew their stuff are calling for a firing. It is baffling and shows they've gone off the deep end and stopped using common sense.
Like, hire Manning again? Yuck. The dude HATED recruiting.
Or Jeriah Horne saved what could be saved.
I met a lot of coaches (both men’s and women’s) when I was helping out with the booster club. Manning was by far the least interested in that part of the job.
Parents and players don’t get too excited about a coach that comes across as being inconvenienced just by being there.
He never wanted to be there. If I remember correctly, multiple of his assistants never changed their twitter stuff away from KU. He may have had lots of that stuff on there too.
Konkol was a very good but not great coach in CUSA, which slots him in at about average in the AAC. The difference between 1 AAC win and 8 or 9 is talent. The question has always been, how does Konkol get from average to near the top of the AAC. We knew when we hired him that he'd have to find a couple more gears to get where we wanted, he was a stretch hire. You usually see that improvement pretty early in a coach's career and Konkol is already in his 8th year, how much growth curve is still ahead of him?
Yes no NCAA and one NIT I think. Nice guy but not sure what a school like TU needed. Hope I’m wrong and he woos us all this spring.
Yeah, been a while. The board kind of stopped being fun around the time of our FB coach search but then I remembered the Ignore feature, which I've never needed to use before, so that's helped a lot.
Really good question, actually.......Coach K at Duke (finally retired), Bill Self at Kansas, The "Tark" at
UNLV continued to improve over long careers...Others were through growing fairly early.....The
trouble is with trying to evaluate where Konkol is right now, is that his talent this year was so poor.
and in some cases so nearly uncoachable, that a coaching valuation would probably be impossible....
The coaches I mentioned above had one important thing in common. They were/are strong recruiters,
and always had good players on the floor....The difference between really good players that will listen,
and then are capable of executing the practice drill is light years away from the 22-23 'Cane that K&Co.
were dealing with.....
Kokol&Co. are fighting a tough battle in this Spring recruiting period....Their 5 win season will be hard
to explain away, and the portal has not been a friend of ours so far....Without some significant success
in completing this class, we might be in for some tough sledding for the 23-24 season.....
I don’t think it’ll be as tough as some think. Pretty much all positions are open and playing time will be the emphasis. Let’s just see what happens. We have offers out to lots of good players.
The problem is that Tark and Bill were killing it by their 8th year. Bill was at Illinois and had been to the Elite Eight and made the Elite Eight again in year 8. Tark was 166-31 in his first 7 years and had been to two Elite Eights. They continued to improve of course but you had signs of greatness of them before year 8. Coach K did have a slow start and picked up after year 8, I just think that's pretty rare, usually if a coach is going to be great, you know it by now.
I think this rebuild will take some time. My expectation as of right now is 12 wins next year. 18 the next. Then it's time to challenge for a conference title.
Konkol's freshman recruits are the building blocks for TU's future success and will only get
better next year . Add the new players on next year's roster and I can see TU going .500 for
the 2024 season and high expectations for Eric's third year .