Three game homestand

[Knight Owl]

All games are at night against teams currently in the Big Dance.
Wisconsin
Purdue
UCLA
Get to an 11-6 record or else…
…a 19-12 season might be out of reach.

 

[Treaster51]

All games are at night against teams currently in the Big Dance.
Wisconsin
Purdue
UCLA
Get to an 11-6 record or else…
…a 19-12 season might be out of reach.

Win 3 : back in business
Win 2: Hanging on but not a lot of room for error
Win 1 or less: season over

 

[runrutgersrun]

Win 3 : back in business
Win 2: Hanging on but not a lot of room for error
Win 1 or less: season over

We can do this!! Did it before...against ranked teams. We even threw in a road win about three years ago:

22 Sat, Feb 5, 2022 4:00p REG Michigan State (13) Big Ten 13.18 W 84 63 13 9 W 1 Jersey Mike''s Arena

23 Wed, Feb 9, 2022 7:00p REG Ohio State (16) Big Ten 14.17 W 66 64 14 9 W 2 Jersey Mike''s Arena

24 Sat, Feb 12, 2022 2:00p REG @ Wisconsin (14) Big Ten 13.13 W 73 65 15 9 W 3 Kohl Center

25 Wed, Feb 16, 2022 7:00p REG Illinois (12) Big Ten 16.69 W 70 59 16 9 W 4 Jersey Mike''s Arena

Go RU!

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Win 3 : back in business
Win 2: Hanging on but not a lot of room for error
Win 1 or less: season over

(...unless we win the B1G tourney.)

 

[winfield102]

We can do this!! Did it before...against ranked teams. We even threw in a road win about three years ago:

22 Sat, Feb 5, 2022 4:00p REG Michigan State (13) Big Ten 13.18 W 84 63 13 9 W 1 Jersey Mike''s Arena

23 Wed, Feb 9, 2022 7:00p REG Ohio State (16) Big Ten 14.17 W 66 64 14 9 W 2 Jersey Mike''s Arena

24 Sat, Feb 12, 2022 2:00p REG @ Wisconsin (14) Big Ten 13.13 W 73 65 15 9 W 3 Kohl Center

25 Wed, Feb 16, 2022 7:00p REG Illinois (12) Big Ten 16.69 W 70 59 16 9 W 4 Jersey Mike''s Arena

Go RU!

Look at the scores of those in 4 games. We won those four games on the back of our defense. While we can win the next four games, it would look nothing like the blueprint of 2021/2022. The "we did it before, we can do it again" theory is not applicable.

 

[runrutgersrun]

Look at the scores of those in 4 games. We won those four games on the back of our defense. While we can win the next four games, it would look nothing like the blueprint of 2021/2022. The "we did it before, we can do it again" theory is not applicable.

Go RU!

 

[goru7]

Win 3 : back in business
Win 2: Hanging on but not a lot of room for error
Win 1 or less: season over

In order to have a very successful home stand we need to do 2 priority things. 1) Eliminate or severely reduce second chance points. That means team rebounding . Every guy to the glass. I do not mean just watching but actually getting up off their damn feet and jumping for rebounds. We lost the game against Indiana partially because they got 34 second chance points on 18 offensive rebounds. When Ogbole and Sommerville are in the game they have to go after every rebound. This ******** that Ogbole got 3 rebounds and that is good has to end and he has to start getting 8+ a game.
2) which brings me to the second reason we lost the game , giving up 12 threes to a pathetic shooting Indiana team , which was almost all on wide open looks. We have to at least contest the 3 point line. Stay on your feet and stop flying past guys , close out hard and get a hand up , like simple basic stuff. No more open guys except on a scramble.
We do those 2 things we have a good chance with Dylan and ACE.

One other bonus , why don’t we hit the offensive glass and improve our second chance points. It really would help . Guys are running back when shot goes up instead of crashing the boards. That has to end.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Look at the scores of those in 4 games. We won those four games on the back of our defense. While we can win the next four games, it would look nothing like the blueprint of 2021/2022. The "we did it before, we can do it again" theory is not applicable.

We don't need to be elite on D....most nights we just need to be slightly above average

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We will have 5 games in 15 days..Jan 6 thru Jan 20.....that is a mini grind. It is possible by Jan 20 our post season hopes could be tied to making the B1Gt OR it could be game on to get an at large bid.

Could come down to 3-4 possessions and how we do that could determine where we are at.

 

[Degaz-RU]

We have no margin for error. With road woes likely to continue all season, we basically need to win out at home to have any chance of making the tournament.

Ergo, I say that we MUST win all three of these upcoming home games. 2-1 is just not good enough.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

It has that feeling, but we have room for 5 errors. I'd prefer to use those on the road.

we do have 2 lottery picks and things just might start to click....not sure how, but.....

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

In order to have a very successful home stand we need to do 2 priority things. 1) Eliminate or severely reduce second chance points. That means team rebounding . Every guy to the glass. I do not mean just watching but actually getting up off their damn feet and jumping for rebounds. We lost the game against Indiana partially because they got 34 second chance points on 18 offensive rebounds. When Ogbole and Sommerville are in the game they have to go after every rebound. This ******** that Ogbole got 3 rebounds and that is good has to end and he has to start getting 8+ a game.
2) which brings me to the second reason we lost the game , giving up 12 threes to a pathetic shooting Indiana team , which was almost all on wide open looks. We have to at least contest the 3 point line. Stay on your feet and stop flying past guys , close out hard and get a hand up , like simple basic stuff. No more open guys except on a scramble.
We do those 2 things we have a good chance with Dylan and ACE.

One other bonus , why don’t we hit the offensive glass and improve our second chance points. It really would help . Guys are running back when shot goes up instead of crashing the boards. That has to end.

For Ogbole and Somerville it isn't as much as the actual defensive rebounds they have and more how few offensive rebounds the opposing 5 has. They need to get their guys OUT OF THE PICTURE and either get the DREB or a teammate.

 

[Degaz-RU]

It has that feeling, but we have room for 5 errors. I'd prefer to use those on the road.

we do have 2 lottery picks and things just might start to click....not sure how, but.....

I keep waiting for the proverbial “click.” I thought a light would go on after we only played 2 games in two weeks and had a lot of practice time.

The sunny outlook would be that missing Dylan for the Indiana game threw off our entire team, so we can’t judge too much (he has been one of our best defensive rebounders lately, and we clearly missed that part of his game, in addition to all of the other parts).

But with a 14 game sample size, we’re deluding ourselves to think that some magical light is going to go on and turn this team into a passable rebounding and defensive team.

Probably.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Dylan out is a killer in so many ways beyond his scoring
1. He plays 32+ minutes so there is 32+ less minutes we have to rely on others (Martini and PJ and Acuff)
2. He takes offensive burden off Ace so he can be fresher on the defensive end
3. He is AT WORST an average defender so he helps us tremendously there
4. He DREBs
5. We probably don't need to go to zone
6. He plays real hard and he wants to win and i think coming from him it means a lot to the rest of the team

 

[bac2therac]

We have no margin for error. With road woes likely to continue all season, we basically need to win out at home to have any chance of making the tournament.

Ergo, I say that we MUST win all three of these upcoming home games. 2-1 is just not good enough.

i will add 2-1 at least keeps hopes alive and the door open while I would say realistically its likely not hapening..1-2 or 0-3 and its done....

 

[bac2therac]

I keep waiting for the proverbial “click.” I thought a light would go on after we only played 2 games in two weeks and had a lot of practice time.

The sunny outlook would be that missing Dylan for the Indiana game threw off our entire team, so we can’t judge too much (he has been one of our best defensive rebounders lately, and we clearly missed that part of his game, in addition to all of the other parts).

But with a 14 game sample size, we’re deluding ourselves to think that some magical light is going to go on and turn this team into a passable rebounding and defensive team.

Probably.

I was watching the Indiana game without Dylan for an indication that there is something about to happen with this team...ace with 39 didnt move the needle at all, in fact it just cemented every worst fear about this team and its horribly constructed roster and that nothing can fix this

alot of bargainning stages on this board in the aftermath

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I was watching the Indiana game without Dylan for an indication that there is something about to happen with this team...ace with 39 didnt move the needle at all, in fact it just cemented every worst fear about this team and its horribly constructed roster and that nothing can fix this

alot of bargainning stages on this board in the aftermath

I refuse to believe a team with Dylan, Ace, JWill and Derkack can really be this bad. There HAS to be a gear that we aren't getting to.

DENIAL phase for sure!

 

[bac2therac]

you saw the gear in Vegas......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Before the season started some here, including me, said don't count too much on 2 frosh superstars producing a Top 20 type season.. but we also said by the end of the year we might be that good.

Do not abandon this team. We will have played a tough Big Ten schedule and if the stars keep producing and we are near the bubble I think we get in.. TV will want it.

We can still turn things around but as you all are indicating, it must start soon. And we will need a fantastic February and keep the losses closer to single digits.. which is looking impossible.

8-6 now.. 17 games remain.. if we go 10-7 we end up 18-13.. that's most probably a no-go but let's examine that.

We'd like to think there are no limits to conference numbers for NCAA bids.. but there are. We know the people in the room represent all conferences and they don't want, say, 10 of 18 Big Ten teams getting in. Make that 11 of 18 won't make it.

We got 8 of 14 last time and did not do all that well. Hmm.. USC and UCLA were both in.. so that would have been 10 of 18. But I think that would be the limit.

If we go 10-7 the rest of the way we end up 11-9 in conference and all but one 11-9 team got in last year... Michigan was left out with an 18-16 overall record. 19-14 Iowa got in.

So, if we go 10-7 the rest of the way.. and the stars shine.. and we have a good end of season and maybe win a game in the Big Ten Tourney.. we have a shot. I think. Anything better and we are in.. I'd hope.

Do you see 10-12 wins here? 6 games vs ranked.. we'd have to beat at least 1.. lets call that 1-5 leaving 11 games vs currently unranked. 5 of those are at home.. lets call them wins. so that brings us to 6-5 with 6 road games left. We'd have to go 4-2 vs currently unranked in those road games.. with teh Big Ten's home-cookin'. @Neb, @PSU, @NW, @md, @Wash. @Meechigan.. PSU just got severe home cooking hosting NW and Michigan always does. We have beaten NW and MD on the road before.. Nebraska has been an issue, IIRC. UW is an unknown.

DATE	OPPONENT	TIME	TV
Mon, Jan 6	vs Wisconsin	7:00 PM	FS1
Thu, Jan 9	vs 20 Purdue	6:00 PM	FS1
Mon, Jan 13	vs 15 UCLA	6:30 PM	FS1
Thu, Jan 16	@ Nebraska	9:00 PM	FS1
Mon, Jan 20	@ Penn State	6:30 PM	Peacock
Sat, Jan 25	vs 18 Michigan State	1:30 PM	CBS
Wed, Jan 29	@ Northwestern	9:00 PM	BTN
Sat, Feb 1	vs Michigan	3:30 PM	FOX
Wed, Feb 5	vs 22 Illinois	8:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 9	@ Maryland	12:00 PM	BTN
Wed, Feb 12	vs Iowa	6:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 16	@ 9 Oregon	7:00 PM	FS1
Wed, Feb 19	@ Washington	10:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 23	vs USC	6:00 PM	FS1
Thu, Feb 27	@ Michigan	9:00 PM	Peacock
Tue, Mar 4	@ 20 Purdue	7:00 PM	Peacock
Sun, Mar 9	vs Minnesota	1:00 PM	BTN

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

you saw the gear in Vegas......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Where did the $ go? How was it allocated?

 

[bac2therac]

Where did the $ go? How was it allocated?

shhh its a secret, how dare you ask...they dont ask for your salary

besides didnt you get the memo we are all suppose to pretend this is completely normal and the kids are doing schoolwork

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

In order to have a very successful home stand we need to do 2 priority things. 1) Eliminate or severely reduce second chance points. That means team rebounding . Every guy to the glass. I do not mean just watching but actually getting up off their damn feet and jumping for rebounds. We lost the game against Indiana partially because they got 34 second chance points on 18 offensive rebounds. When Ogbole and Sommerville are in the game they have to go after every rebound. This ******** that Ogbole got 3 rebounds and that is good has to end and he has to start getting 8+ a game.
...

How many times have we seen Ace got for the block of someone else's defended player, realize he won't get it, pull his arm away and end up out of position for any rebound while allowing his guy to get an easy put-back? More than we have seen him get blocks, right? But his blocks look so nice... I'd surrender the blocks for boards every time.

 

[Knight Owl]

Before the season started some here, including me, said don't count too much on 2 frosh superstars producing a Top 20 type season.. but we also said by the end of the year we might be that good.

Do not abandon this team. We will have played a tough Big Ten schedule and if the stars keep producing and we are near the bubble I think we get in.. TV will want it.

We can still turn things around but as you all are indicating, it must start soon. And we will need a fantastic February and keep the losses closer to single digits.. which is looking impossible.

8-6 now.. 17 games remain.. if we go 10-7 we end up 18-13.. that's most probably a no-go but let's examine that.

We'd like to think there are no limits to conference numbers for NCAA bids.. but there are. We know the people in the room represent all conferences and they don't want, say, 10 of 18 Big Ten teams getting in. Make that 11 of 18 won't make it.

We got 8 of 14 last time and did not do all that well. Hmm.. USC and UCLA were both in.. so that would have been 10 of 18. But I think that would be the limit.

If we go 10-7 the rest of the way we end up 11-9 in conference and all but one 11-9 team got in last year... Michigan was left out with an 18-16 overall record. 19-14 Iowa got in.

So, if we go 10-7 the rest of the way.. and the stars shine.. and we have a good end of season and maybe win a game in the Big Ten Tourney.. we have a shot. I think. Anything better and we are in.. I'd hope.

Do you see 10-12 wins here? 6 games vs ranked.. we'd have to beat at least 1.. lets call that 1-5 leaving 11 games vs currently unranked. 5 of those are at home.. lets call them wins. so that brings us to 6-5 with 6 road games left. We'd have to go 4-2 vs currently unranked in those road games.. with teh Big Ten's home-cookin'. @Neb, @PSU, @NW, @md, @Wash. @Meechigan.. PSU just got severe home cooking hosting NW and Michigan always does. We have beaten NW and MD on the road before.. Nebraska has been an issue, IIRC. UW is an unknown.

DATE	OPPONENT	TIME	TV
Mon, Jan 6	vs Wisconsin	7:00 PM	FS1
Thu, Jan 9	vs 20 Purdue	6:00 PM	FS1
Mon, Jan 13	vs 15 UCLA	6:30 PM	FS1
Thu, Jan 16	@ Nebraska	9:00 PM	FS1
Mon, Jan 20	@ Penn State	6:30 PM	Peacock
Sat, Jan 25	vs 18 Michigan State	1:30 PM	CBS
Wed, Jan 29	@ Northwestern	9:00 PM	BTN
Sat, Feb 1	vs Michigan	3:30 PM	FOX
Wed, Feb 5	vs 22 Illinois	8:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 9	@ Maryland	12:00 PM	BTN
Wed, Feb 12	vs Iowa	6:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 16	@ 9 Oregon	7:00 PM	FS1
Wed, Feb 19	@ Washington	10:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 23	vs USC	6:00 PM	FS1
Thu, Feb 27	@ Michigan	9:00 PM	Peacock
Tue, Mar 4	@ 20 Purdue	7:00 PM	Peacock
Sun, Mar 9	vs Minnesota	1:00 PM	BTN

Good thing Wisconsin just scored a bazillion points vs Iowa. Reversion to the mean fg% time plus Rutgers is due for a great effort.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

I refuse to believe a team with Dylan, Ace, JWill and Derkack can really be this bad. There HAS to be a gear that we aren't getting to.

DENIAL phase for sure!

Believe it

 

[Local Shill]

Before the season started some here, including me, said don't count too much on 2 frosh superstars producing a Top 20 type season.. but we also said by the end of the year we might be that good.

Do not abandon this team. We will have played a tough Big Ten schedule and if the stars keep producing and we are near the bubble I think we get in.. TV will want it.

We can still turn things around but as you all are indicating, it must start soon. And we will need a fantastic February and keep the losses closer to single digits.. which is looking impossible.

8-6 now.. 17 games remain.. if we go 10-7 we end up 18-13.. that's most probably a no-go but let's examine that.

We'd like to think there are no limits to conference numbers for NCAA bids.. but there are. We know the people in the room represent all conferences and they don't want, say, 10 of 18 Big Ten teams getting in. Make that 11 of 18 won't make it.

We got 8 of 14 last time and did not do all that well. Hmm.. USC and UCLA were both in.. so that would have been 10 of 18. But I think that would be the limit.

If we go 10-7 the rest of the way we end up 11-9 in conference and all but one 11-9 team got in last year... Michigan was left out with an 18-16 overall record. 19-14 Iowa got in.

So, if we go 10-7 the rest of the way.. and the stars shine.. and we have a good end of season and maybe win a game in the Big Ten Tourney.. we have a shot. I think. Anything better and we are in.. I'd hope.

Do you see 10-12 wins here? 6 games vs ranked.. we'd have to beat at least 1.. lets call that 1-5 leaving 11 games vs currently unranked. 5 of those are at home.. lets call them wins. so that brings us to 6-5 with 6 road games left. We'd have to go 4-2 vs currently unranked in those road games.. with teh Big Ten's home-cookin'. @Neb, @PSU, @NW, @md, @Wash. @Meechigan.. PSU just got severe home cooking hosting NW and Michigan always does. We have beaten NW and MD on the road before.. Nebraska has been an issue, IIRC. UW is an unknown.

DATE	OPPONENT	TIME	TV
Mon, Jan 6	vs Wisconsin	7:00 PM	FS1
Thu, Jan 9	vs 20 Purdue	6:00 PM	FS1
Mon, Jan 13	vs 15 UCLA	6:30 PM	FS1
Thu, Jan 16	@ Nebraska	9:00 PM	FS1
Mon, Jan 20	@ Penn State	6:30 PM	Peacock
Sat, Jan 25	vs 18 Michigan State	1:30 PM	CBS
Wed, Jan 29	@ Northwestern	9:00 PM	BTN
Sat, Feb 1	vs Michigan	3:30 PM	FOX
Wed, Feb 5	vs 22 Illinois	8:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 9	@ Maryland	12:00 PM	BTN
Wed, Feb 12	vs Iowa	6:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 16	@ 9 Oregon	7:00 PM	FS1
Wed, Feb 19	@ Washington	10:30 PM	BTN
Sun, Feb 23	vs USC	6:00 PM	FS1
Thu, Feb 27	@ Michigan	9:00 PM	Peacock
Tue, Mar 4	@ 20 Purdue	7:00 PM	Peacock
Sun, Mar 9	vs Minnesota	1:00 PM	BTN

It’s not happening but we need quad 1 wins. A whole bunch. And a couple on the road.

There’s your analysis.

 

[goru7]

We will have 5 games in 15 days..Jan 6 thru Jan 20.....that is a mini grind. It is possible by Jan 20 our post season hopes could be tied to making the B1Gt OR it could be game on to get an at large bid.

Could come down to 3-4 possessions and how we do that could determine where we are at.

The lunacy of this board. Close games come down to making plays in the last 4 minutes to either keep a small lead or come from behind when you are in striking distance. We lost 3 close games to Alabama , Texas A& M and Princeton which if we win we are 11-3 and everyone is ecstatic and excited going into this conference slate . Instead , a majority of the posters are all doom and gloom and all negativity. No nuance. Yes , 3/-4 plays make a difference in the final score. We have to make those plays and do what I identified earlier in the thread.
PS. Do not want to hear about winning close games against Notre Dame and Seton Hall as both should have been 10 points wins.

 

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

shhh its a secret, how dare you ask...they dont ask for your salary

besides didnt you get the memo we are all suppose to pretend this is completely normal and the kids are doing schoolwork

I just read an article that Harper makes $2 million in NIL

 

[Ridge 22]

I just read an article that Harper makes $2 million in NIL

And he will be done here in 3 months. He is a special player and I am glad he is here, but how much can this Rutgers season really be the main focus for him. In fairness, I don't know that it would be for me either if I were in his situation. If/when this team falls out of contention, I am concerned it may fall apart quickly.

 

[The RUT]

you saw the gear in Vegas......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Obviously things are not looking great, but if Rutgers gets Vegas Dylan Harper in combination with renewed confidence from Ace, it's possible to make a run.

Not sure how long they'd be able to keep that going, but that's what it's going to take.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

And he will be done here in 3 months. He is a special player and I am glad he is here, but how much can this Rutgers season really be the main focus for him. In fairness, I don't know that it would be for me either if I were in his situation. If/when this team falls out of contention, I am concerned it may fall apart quickly.

He has been around NBA money his whole life... and he, himself, is proof that his head is screwed on straight.. his abilities gained through hard work, despite his NBA pedigree and money. Then add in choosing Rutgers.. I think Dylan is a competitor and if we go off the rails it wouldn't be because he stops trying. I think this team will fight to the end.