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<blockquote data-quote="spartansstink" data-source="post: 129756908" data-attributes="member: 1488840"><p>Let me show you guys how to "own" a person who tries to use stats as his argument.</p><p></p><p>What skabbers is trying to do is use ONE specific stat to make his argument. As if other stats that contradict his argument don't exist.</p><p></p><p>So, lets delve into his argument a little deeper. He wants to use offensive efficiency, so lets do it.</p><p></p><p>When one looks at Miami's schedule a little deeper, one sees that 1/4 of their schedule was played against non-power 5 schools. That's right, 25%. 3 out of 12. Of course, those 3 games were wins, as they should have been. So, they really only have 5 wins against power 5 schools. If one would change out those 3 schools for power 5 schools, there is a 50/50 chance Miami loses all 3.</p><p></p><p>Wouldn't one think that stats would be skewed a little if one out of every four games was against a greatly inferior opponent? To be fair, WVU played ONE non-power 5 opponent in Youngstown State. Won that one pretty easily, too.</p><p></p><p>If one looks even more carefully at Miami's non-power 5 opponents, one finds that one of those schools was Florida A & M. I can't even find a rivals page on them. Never even heard of them to be honest. I have no idea if they are even a FCS school. Could be JUCO for all we know. Could be less. I'll let Scabbers come on here and try to defend their awesomeness. Then comes the might Florida Atlantic team that went 3-9 against what is FCS competition. Finally, comes Appalachian State from the Sun Belt conference. They went 9-3 so they were pretty good in their conference, but to be fair, all 3 of their losses were to power 5 schools (except maybe Troy - I can't remember). But again, it is FCS and not power 5.</p><p></p><p>We can delve even deeper and look at how after those 3 games the offensive efficiency changes against what would be a 9 game schedule of power 5 schools but I don't think we have too. We all know what will happen, especially when 4 of those games are losses.</p><p></p><p>To make an analogy that fits scabbers argument, suppose an Olympic runner (one who didn't even make the Olympics but attempted to) runs a race against a ParaOlympic runner, a Special Olympic runner, and a 3rd grader. He then goes around bragging about his stats, about how he is 5 seconds faster than other "Olympic" runners. He then runs a race against 9 other runners who aren't "para" or "special" or 3rd graders and loses to 4 of them - only one of which would rank in the top 12 in the country (or top 20 for that matter). He then brags about how good he is... this is scabbers argument in a nutshell.</p><p></p><p>You want to talk stats? The only one that <strong>really</strong> matters is Wins vs. Losses, isn't it? And in that stat - you lose twice over from us.</p><p></p><p>That is how you own somebody. Scabbers, you're my *****!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spartansstink, post: 129756908, member: 1488840"] Let me show you guys how to "own" a person who tries to use stats as his argument. What skabbers is trying to do is use ONE specific stat to make his argument. As if other stats that contradict his argument don't exist. So, lets delve into his argument a little deeper. He wants to use offensive efficiency, so lets do it. When one looks at Miami's schedule a little deeper, one sees that 1/4 of their schedule was played against non-power 5 schools. That's right, 25%. 3 out of 12. Of course, those 3 games were wins, as they should have been. So, they really only have 5 wins against power 5 schools. If one would change out those 3 schools for power 5 schools, there is a 50/50 chance Miami loses all 3. Wouldn't one think that stats would be skewed a little if one out of every four games was against a greatly inferior opponent? To be fair, WVU played ONE non-power 5 opponent in Youngstown State. Won that one pretty easily, too. If one looks even more carefully at Miami's non-power 5 opponents, one finds that one of those schools was Florida A & M. I can't even find a rivals page on them. Never even heard of them to be honest. I have no idea if they are even a FCS school. Could be JUCO for all we know. Could be less. I'll let Scabbers come on here and try to defend their awesomeness. Then comes the might Florida Atlantic team that went 3-9 against what is FCS competition. Finally, comes Appalachian State from the Sun Belt conference. They went 9-3 so they were pretty good in their conference, but to be fair, all 3 of their losses were to power 5 schools (except maybe Troy - I can't remember). But again, it is FCS and not power 5. We can delve even deeper and look at how after those 3 games the offensive efficiency changes against what would be a 9 game schedule of power 5 schools but I don't think we have too. We all know what will happen, especially when 4 of those games are losses. To make an analogy that fits scabbers argument, suppose an Olympic runner (one who didn't even make the Olympics but attempted to) runs a race against a ParaOlympic runner, a Special Olympic runner, and a 3rd grader. He then goes around bragging about his stats, about how he is 5 seconds faster than other "Olympic" runners. He then runs a race against 9 other runners who aren't "para" or "special" or 3rd graders and loses to 4 of them - only one of which would rank in the top 12 in the country (or top 20 for that matter). He then brags about how good he is... this is scabbers argument in a nutshell. You want to talk stats? The only one that [B]really[/B] matters is Wins vs. Losses, isn't it? And in that stat - you lose twice over from us. That is how you own somebody. Scabbers, you're my *****! [/QUOTE]
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