This team lacks basic basketball fundamentals

[RCBeta79]

This team lacks basic basketball fundamentals.....they don't box out on defense.....most of the time, no one is under the basket when an outside shot goes up (they are already getting back on defense when a few players should be crashing the boards, while a guard is rotating back in case of a fast break by the other team).

Basketball fundamentals are what you learn in practice....things like boxing out, one person rotating back on offense while others crash the boards to slow down a possible fast break....are all responsibilities of the Assistant Coaches. These are fundamentals you should have learned in high school.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

This team lacks basic basketball fundamentals.....they don't box out on defense.....most of the time, no one is under the basket when an outside shot goes up (they are already getting back on defense when a few players should be crashing the boards, while a guard is rotating back in case of a fast break by the other team).

Basketball fundamentals are what you learn in practice....things like boxing out, one person rotating back on offense while others crash the boards to slow down a possible fast break....are all responsibilities of the Assistant Coaches. These are fundamentals you should have learned in high school.

They are very fundamentally unsound. Some look like they have never been coached. Passes are never on target, where a player can either shoot or drive. Opportunities exist for a split second in games and we keep wasting time adjusting to terrible passes.

 

[78CollegeAve]

Good to know that HCEJ says his team played with its "best effort and harmony" and loses at home by 6. He must be so proud of what he, uh, building. Hint to Eddie -- next time recruit a point who can play D and shoot instead of a kid who has the best mixtape on YouTube. And keep #5 away from the donuts so that he has legs in the seond half.

 

[mikefla]

This gets posted every year. I am certain these kids get to the level they are at in HS with decent fundementals/
What is it that RU does that makes them somehow forget fundementals
And No..I am not kidding,,,,,,its happened every year since Waters left

 

[jakeknight]

Is it the no-look one handed flip over the shoulder that ends up going the other way that causes you to indicate this team lacks fundamental?

 

[ruhudsonfan]

I went to the game today.

You could write a dissertation on what this team does wrong from a fundamental standpoint.

I was close enough to the RU bench to seriously watch how EJ runs his huddle.

If someone can explain to me what Mike O'Koren does during the game, I'd love to hear it. The only guy who actually coaches during the game is Dalip. Macon went to the Kyle Flood school of note taking. All I saw him do was write notes on the stat sheets handed to him at every official TO.

You could count on 1 hand how many quality sets they ran in the half court off of dead balls. That is unacceptable when you have a bench with 2 NBA veteran coaches on it. Vetrone is in the huddle, but silent.

The biggest issue to me, is that EJ doesn't even pretend to want input from any of them. WTF are there for?

As to the players, good grief. I've never seen a bigger collection of D1 players who have such terrible hands. In teh first half, nearly every pass in the half court was fumbled. When you already struggle to run your sets, those little things like not making clean catches kill your flow.

Williams is out of shape--badly out of shape.

Sanders has passion and emotion. You have to love that about him. # 12 took him to the woodshed off the dribble today. He looked like a parking cone more than once in the half court.

The problem is, we are so bad at so many things, I don't even know where you would begin to fix them. The bigs got abused. Our wing game is essentially non-existent. The backcourt kept us in the game.

One interesting fact about Monmouth. They had 3 guys who could legit run their offense. I was pretty impressed with that and their overall depth. They had 8-9 guys who would get serious run if they were on our roster.

 

[scarletKNIGHT07]

I blame lack of dedicated practice facility for the lack of fundamentals. No coach could ever teach rebounding or the art of the three point shot without one.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

They lack some fundamentals, but almost all of college basketball.

What Rutgers lacks, as a team, is playing with effort. Too many possessions where players take off.

When the game turns just because your opponent picks up the offensive tempo because they know they will beat you down the floor you know there is an effort problem

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We ran 2 beautiful "Princeton" offensive sets that resulted in dribble-back door layups.

I didn't have a problem with the structure of the offense. I do have a problem with players inside not squaring up and taking out of control shots in the paint.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

I went to the game today.

You could write a dissertation on what this team does wrong from a fundamental standpoint.

I was close enough to the RU bench to seriously watch how EJ runs his huddle.

If someone can explain to me what Mike O'Koren does during the game, I'd love to hear it. The only guy who actually coaches during the game is Dalip. Macon went to the Kyle Flood school of note taking. All I saw him do was write notes on the stat sheets handed to him at every official TO.

You could count on 1 hand how many quality sets they ran in the half court off of dead balls. That is unacceptable when you have a bench with 2 NBA veteran coaches on it. Vetrone is in the huddle, but silent.

The biggest issue to me, is that EJ doesn't even pretend to want input from any of them. WTF are there for?

As to the players, good grief. I've never seen a bigger collection of D1 players who have such terrible hands. In teh first half, nearly every pass in the half court was fumbled. When you already struggle to run your sets, those little things like not making clean catches kill your flow.

Williams is out of shape--badly out of shape.

Sanders has passion and emotion. You have to love that about him. # 12 took him to the woodshed off the dribble today. He looked like a parking cone more than once in the half court.

The problem is, we are so bad at so many things, I don't even know where you would begin to fix them. The bigs got abused. Our wing game is essentially non-existent. The backcourt kept us in the game.

One interesting fact about Monmouth. They had 3 guys who could legit run their offense. I was pretty impressed with that and their overall depth. They had 8-9 guys who would get serious run if they were on our roster.

Hudson, you are so right. When you watch the two teams play, there is no comparison in the "eye test".....and yes we have hands of stone. I was actually wondering to myself how we were in the game in the end. I can;t understand how they got the big kids they have in comparison to ours. We have some MAAC kids playing in the B1G and they have some B1G kids playing in the MAAC.

 

[MCKnight]

Hudson, you are so right. When you watch the two teams play, there is no comparison in the "eye test".....and yes we have hands of stone. I was actually wondering to myself how we were in the game in the end. I can;t understand how they got the big kids they have in comparison to ours. We have some MAAC kids playing in the B1G and they have some B1G kids playing in the MAAC.

Perfectly said Mr Magoo. Monmouth looked like the B1G Team not RU. bigger, wider, more athletic, more confident

That all comes down to recruiting and player development which we don't do very well.

 

[rufeelinit]

Many HS kids do lack fundamental and I blame on the lack of emphasis placed on them during "showtime" AAU basketball. That is why you need a strong authoritative coach who has the kids respect and will listen (or pay a price) in order to develop fundamentals during their first year or two playing college bball.

 

[Anon1751594821]

RUHudson,

I think according to NCAA rules(stupid rules in fact), Mike O'Koren is not allowed to coach(in the game for sure) in his position.

Best of Luck,
Groz

 

[DHajekRC84]

Hudson. I agree with all but 1 thing Robinson (#12) had 11 at the half. I saw a personal battle start up right after these couple of moves and Sanders responded with his own moves and baskets. #12 started out 4 for 5 and finished like 1 for 6 or 8 only scoring 3 in the second half for 14 (20pt per game avg).

And Greene..those 2 back doors was what helped us get back into the game..and the O was moving causing them some confusion. Then we came out of the TO , stood around and went back to Lewis trying the 12ft Jumper and everyone else hosting up from outside.

At 56 seconds and down 2 we had a chance for a 2 fer one. Instead we held it and took the long corner three from Williams...(or maybe that was Sanders there and Williams on the last possession after Sanders got stuck mid-air)

Eddie doesn't get the college game. I'm sorry. Wasted effort with guys playing their butts off short all the big men.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Hudson. I agree with all but 1 thing Robinson (#12) had 11 at the half. I saw a personal battle start up right after these couple of moves and Sanders responded with his own moves and baskets. #12 started out 4 for 5 and finished like 1 for 6 or 8 only scoring 3 in the second half for 14 (20pt per game avg).

And Greene..those 2 back doors was what helped us get back into the game..and the O was moving causing them some confusion. Then we came out of the TO , stood around and went back to Lewis trying the 12ft Jumper and everyone else hosting up from outside.

At 56 seconds and down 2 we had a chance for a 2 fer one. Instead we held it and took the long corner three from Williams...(or maybe that was Sanders there and Williams on the last possession after Sanders got stuck mid-air)

Eddie doesn't get the college game. I'm sorry. Wasted effort with guys playing their butts off short all the big men.

Fair enough on the Robinson point. I think Sanders played pretty well and I loved his energy. Wasn't trying to knock him.

Definitely agree on the 2 for 1 down the stretch. I think the last minute was mis-managed by EJ.

I didn't know that O'Koren is not allowed to actually coach in the game. Seems like an absurd rule.

 

[Waldo73]

This team lacks a lot of things, including a good coach. RU hasn't had good shooters including foul shots in years.

 

[rucoe89]

I've said it for a few years now - RU keeps recruiting kids with very low basketball IQ and it shows every time they are on the court. Big reason we are the worse team in the country.

 

[bac2therac]

I went to the game today.

You could write a dissertation on what this team does wrong from a fundamental standpoint.

I was close enough to the RU bench to seriously watch how EJ runs his huddle.

If someone can explain to me what Mike O'Koren does during the game, I'd love to hear it. The only guy who actually coaches during the game is Dalip. Macon went to the Kyle Flood school of note taking. All I saw him do was write notes on the stat sheets handed to him at every official TO.

You could count on 1 hand how many quality sets they ran in the half court off of dead balls. That is unacceptable when you have a bench with 2 NBA veteran coaches on it. Vetrone is in the huddle, but silent.

The biggest issue to me, is that EJ doesn't even pretend to want input from any of them. WTF are there for?

As to the players, good grief. I've never seen a bigger collection of D1 players who have such terrible hands. In teh first half, nearly every pass in the half court was fumbled. When you already struggle to run your sets, those little things like not making clean catches kill your flow.

Williams is out of shape--badly out of shape.

Sanders has passion and emotion. You have to love that about him. # 12 took him to the woodshed off the dribble today. He looked like a parking cone more than once in the half court.

The problem is, we are so bad at so many things, I don't even know where you would begin to fix them. The bigs got abused. Our wing game is essentially non-existent. The backcourt kept us in the game.

One interesting fact about Monmouth. They had 3 guys who could legit run their offense. I was pretty impressed with that and their overall depth. They had 8-9 guys who would get serious run if they were on our roster.

Eddie feels that there should be only one voice from the bench as if its working.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

I have complained ad naseum about our strength and conditioning

The strength is there ...conditioning is non existent

Conditioning is huge in the second hop on the boards and getting body in perfedt shooting form (especially in later stages of games)

Notice what we lost us this game in the the last five minutes ?

 

[wngarbarini]

I do not know if that was sarcasm but please stop the crap about we are so bad because we do not have a practice facility. We could have a palace and still be horrible.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I have complained ad naseum about our strength and conditioning

The strength is there ...conditioning is non existent

Conditioning is huge in the second hop on the boards and getting body in perfedt shooting form (especially in later stages of games)

Notice what we lost us this game in the the last five minutes ?

2nd half minutes
williams 20
foreman 20
sanders 19
lewis 18

goode 0

The fact that we asked Foreman to go 20 is disturbing.

Post game quote has Jordan talking about effort and that you need to be above 80%.

I 100% get Goode's liabilities. However Goode 1st 6 minutes in a hlaf is better then Foreman 14 thru 20 minutes.....PLUS the program emphasizes 100% effort or raise your hand and get a rest.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Hudson. I agree with all but 1 thing Robinson (#12) had 11 at the half. I saw a personal battle start up right after these couple of moves and Sanders responded with his own moves and baskets. #12 started out 4 for 5 and finished like 1 for 6 or 8 only scoring 3 in the second half for 14 (20pt per game avg).

And Greene..those 2 back doors was what helped us get back into the game..and the O was moving causing them some confusion. Then we came out of the TO , stood around and went back to Lewis trying the 12ft Jumper and everyone else hosting up from outside.

At 56 seconds and down 2 we had a chance for a 2 fer one. Instead we held it and took the long corner three from Williams...(or maybe that was Sanders there and Williams on the last possession after Sanders got stuck mid-air)

Eddie doesn't get the college game. I'm sorry. Wasted effort with guys playing their butts off short all the big men.

Robinson was silent with Williams in the game. His eyes lit up with Sanders guarding him.

 

[linzalonic]

I've seen Corey & Daniels get beat off the dribble way more than Goode. While he is greatly lacking in strength, I think his D is underrated here. On offense, he needs to be more assertive & stop passing up shots.

Goode should've played a few minutes in the second half. EJ's rotations can be perplexing. Goode needs 10-15 mpg in my opinion.

And why in hell does Daniels bring up the ball so much? His handle is suspect at best. Put him on the wing so he can slash from there.

 

[RUonBrain]

I do not know if that was sarcasm but please stop the crap about we are so bad because we do not have a practice facility. We could have a palace and still be horrible.

Had to be sarcasm.
That is why I liked the post.

The fools who keep harping on facilities are just that - fools.

Hopefully we get a real coaching staff in here next year.
Add that to the facilties Hobbs is preparing, and we just might look like a real basketball team, and real B1G team.

If 95% of the fans can see it, Hobbs HAS to see it, right?

 

[bac2therac]

2nd half minutes
williams 20
foreman 20
sanders 19
lewis 18

goode 0

The fact that we asked Foreman to go 20 is disturbing.

Post game quote has Jordan talking about effort and that you need to be above 80%.

I 100% get Goode's liabilities. However Goode 1st 6 minutes in a hlaf is better then Foreman 14 thru 20 minutes.....PLUS the program emphasizes 100% effort or raise your hand and get a rest.

if Goode isn't playing against Monmouth then who the hell is he going to play against

 

[RUonBrain]

if Goode isn't playing against Monmouth then who the hell is he going to play against

This is just horrible player management.

Need a new staff.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

On a separate note....watch the Sound of Music last night. I was happy to hear Julie Andrews pronounce Justin's name properly.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Had to be sarcasm.
That is why I liked the post.

The fools who keep harping on facilities are just that - fools.

Hopefully we get a real coaching staff in here next year.
Add that to the facilties Hobbs is preparing, and we just might look like a real basketball team, and real B1G team.

If 95% of the fans can see it, Hobbs HAS to see it, right?

Add Hobbs to your list of fools. LOL

PER HOBBS: For men’s basketball in particular, the lack of a practice facility is an albatross on the recruiting trail.

OR, the 95% are the fools because they can't understand that it's all about RECRUITING.

Good players win, bad coaches get Coaches fired.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Goode did not play in the 2nd half because he threw two passes right into the hands of Monmouth players....I mean right to them...... not deflected, not trying to make a pass with a defender in your face, These passes were thrown right into their hands.

He was immediately pulled after the 2nd one and never saw the court again.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

back to premise of thread......

1. In transition sprint to the paint and then matchup. No going for steals 65 feet from the basket. They almost always result in fouls or dunks.
2. We have to stop driving to basket and not finish squared to the basket. Foreman and Grier were guilty yesterday. if you have to contort your body it isn't a good shot irregardless of where you are on the court.

 

[Caliknight]

OP is right. The lack of fundamentals on this team is disturbing. Been saying it for years, but under Eddie, it's hit its peak. Both on O and D. Simple crisp chest passes to the right spot are few and far between.

Why the hell a coach wouldn't practice rebounding in college basketball is beyond stupid. It sure shows though. Would love to see one of their practices. I'm guessing there is some glossy situational stuff, with lots scrimmaging. Eddie probably thinks that takes care of the conditioning.

 

[Jackson206:)]

Nothing Danny Hurley couldn't fix...

 

[Veiox]

 

[DHajekRC84]

I will say this..the passing on those 2 possessions where we ran the Princeton offense and those back door layups were the best passing and cutting I've seen in a while. A) I still don't get why Coach went away from it there and B) with the lack of big guys and our inability to get the ball passed into the post ...why he is not going with this is perplexing and frustrating.

Coaches job is to adapt and adjust to the player situation , the opponent, and the game itself.

This team is not talented enough to create and finish their own shots. Our 1 big man wants to take fade away jumpers from 12-15 ft. Only way we are going to get to the rim is to create space, move, cut, and pass.