This could potentially be big news...

[patdog]

I imagine he did in 2004. It is now 2024.

Collective bargaining is the same in 2024 as it was in 2004, and 1984 and will be in 2044.

 

[onewoof]

Quite the pivot by you, after that pwn3ing by multiple posters.

You've proven to be a big pile of hot air.

Aww look at you learning from others to not have such a fragile ego. Adorable

 

[Perd Hapley]

This would probably change quite a few players. If JUCO doesn't count towards your eligibility, that's going to open up a lot of players to the potential transfer portal. I realize this is only one ruling, but the wheels are in motion

Diego Pavia granted eligibility for 2025 season: Vanderbilt QB wins injunction in antitrust case vs. NCAA

Pavia is arguing that junior college seasons should not count against NCAA eligibility

www.cbssports.com

Shít just keeps getting even more comical.

Every time some common sense has a chance to enter the discussion….the complete opposite happens.

 

[Perd Hapley]

I know a lot of people will be reflexively repulsed by this statement ... but until we get a union of college football players, none of this is going to be reined in.

It’s not going to happen then, either.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

I'm no labor law expert, but I believe a players' union could collectively bargain eligibility rules. So that will probably come in the next few years, and whether it's 5 years to play 4, 5 years to play 5, or something else, it will be negotiated and agreed upon.

This is the only solution I see, assuming Congress is not going to hand out anti-trust exemptions. It is almost poetic justice....the whole concept of amateur student-athletes was coined by the NCAA to avoid paying workers comp to the widow of a player who died from game injuries. Now the only way to save the NCAA is to declare the athletes employees and let them unionize.

The NCAA is clearly a monopoly with zero competition. But even if you broke up the NCAA and let the conferences govern their sports leagues, the conferences would then control the market and be subject to antitrust laws. And the minute the conferences tried to work together to harmonize their rules, they would be guilty of collusion.

The only real question is whether there will be one college athletes' union, or whether each sport will form its own union?

While I support the concept of anti trust laws to protect consumers and employees, I hate the vague way our anti trust laws were written. Sports leagues should be able to set their own rules for competition, as long as they are not too arbitrary and capricious. Then people either compete under those rules or find some other way to make a living.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

How is this related to age? I don’t believe there is an upper age limit to be a college athlete.

If there are no rules WRT to amateur status, you could also hav players coming back to school who maybe were flops in the NFL as well right?

The lack of rules at the moment comes from the fact the NCAA was ruled a monopoly. The major conferences could move together to come up with reasonable eligibility requirements, transfer rules, salary caps etc. IMO, they are going to have to do something.

I think in the short term you have increased tv viewership with new fans, but I think many who were mid level boosters and season ticket holders are going to start dropping as the chaos continues. I am already hearing that sentiment from life long Bama and Auby friends.

The minor league baseball analogy is spot on. It can be entertaining, but it is a casual, passionless watch due to in part to player turnover etc. If a fan doesn’t feel like the “most” of the players share the passion for playing for the school, how long will the fans feel the passion?

Federal age discrimination laws don't apply until you discriminate against someone over 40. Some state laws protect younger workers, but, generally, age is not a protected class.

NCAA Div 1 does not have an age limit, per se, but in theory an athlete is supposed to enroll in college within 12 months of graduating high school, and then they have 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility. Then there are the exceptions for injury, transfer, COVID, military service (even if that makes you a 35 year old kicker for UVA) religious missions, etc., etc., and for some reason an athlete can go play minor league baseball for 9 years and THEN enroll in college for the first time and play QB for FSU.

So, yeah, it seems like those flimsy restrictions will soon fall.

And, as mentioned, why should a college limit its roster to people actually enrolled in the school? Seems like an unfair limit on someone's earnings.

 

[RocketDawg]

This would probably change quite a few players. If JUCO doesn't count towards your eligibility, that's going to open up a lot of players to the potential transfer portal. I realize this is only one ruling, but the wheels are in motion

Diego Pavia granted eligibility for 2025 season: Vanderbilt QB wins injunction in antitrust case vs. NCAA

Pavia is arguing that junior college seasons should not count against NCAA eligibility

www.cbssports.com

That way, they don't risk not getting an NFL offer with a pay cut.

 

[RocketDawg]

How in the hell can the NFL have a "3 year after high school" rule. That's over soon too. That rule exists only for the interest of college football. Period.

Correct. That rule should be abolished. Let them go straight to the NFL out of high school if they're good enough. If they're not, return to the ways of old with a "scholarship" and that's it.