This article is not for Leftists

[atlkvb]

They're so full of TDS hate, they can't think strategically. However for the rest of you who do understand geopolitical maneuvers, I think you'll find this article about the moves behind our attack on Iran vis-a-vis China interesting.

The Iran Strike Is All About China

excerpt:
Beijing has spent billions of dollars building Iran into a structural asset. By striking Iran directly, the Trump administration is dismantling, whether by design or by consequence, a pillar of China’s regional architecture. In other words: This is all about China.

...more

President Trump didn’t launch Operation Epic Fury only to punish Khamenei for his massacres. Trump launched it because every year Washington spends focusing on managing Tehran is another year Beijing gets to build control in the Pacific. The orientation of the Middle East will determine whether the U.S. can prevail in the defining confrontation of this century: a Chinese move against Taiwan.

...more

The logic here is simple. Every dollar the United States spends defending Red Sea shipping lanes is a dollar unavailable for submarine production, Pacific bases, or Taiwan contingency planning. Every carrier group stationed in the Gulf of Aden is a carrier group absent from the Western Pacific. Iran’s proxies, armed with Iranian weapons and supported by Iranian intelligence, function as a mechanism of American strategic attrition, and the costs fall entirely on Washington while Beijing accumulates strategic gains.

*As I mentioned in my preface, hate filled anti-Trump Leftists aren't able to follow the key military, strategic, geo-political, economic consequences outlined in this excellent read. They're still stuck on Trump being a war mongering Dictator, totally clueless that the folks they're tacitly defending in Iran and China, can't wait to put them under their totalitarian thumbs next.

 

[30CAT]

He's actually praying to God let him hate more. Of course, God won't answer prayers for hatred. So sad to see people so full of hate...and for what? They don't even know.

James Carville goes on profanity-laced tirade against Trump, admits he has 'Trump derangement syndrome' and wants even more hate

James Carville goes on profanity-laced tirade against Trump, admits he has 'derangement syndrome'

Democratic strategist James Carville admitted that he has "Trump Derangement Syndrome" in a profanity-filled rant on Saturday, saying he wants to hate the president even more.

www.foxnews.com

 

[atlkvb]

@30CAT said:
"So sad to see people so full of hate...and for what? They don't even know."

The bold is what I find most perplexing @30CAT. They not only never offer better alternatives to Trump, they can't tell you exactly what he's done to them that's filled them with so much animosity for him?

Amazing.

Hey I exist....that's all the reason they need for their hatred!

Well maybe that's true DJT, but you also expose their failures with your success, and that's why they hate you so much!

Yup...they can't beat me or join me! Guess that'd make me pretty pissed too if I was one of them?

So glad you're not DJT! You saved the country Bro!

Oh I know atl...here's another EO I just signed!

COMBATING CYBERCRIME, FRAUD, AND PREDATORY SCHEMES AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS

excerpt:
In many cases, foreign regimes provide willing or tacit state support to cybercrime and predatory schemes, creating a shadow economy fueled by stolen identities, coercion, forced labor, and human trafficking.

It is the policy of the United States to protect Americans from, and harden our financial and digital systems against, these threats.

 

[30CAT]

@atlkvb, I truly think too many look at it as a game. Good, bad or indifferent, they have to support their team.

The left, since Trump, has supported illegal foreign nationals over American citizens. Broad daylight. They didn't try to hide it. They chose Maduro over America.

They've chosen MS-13 gang members over American citizens and their safety.

They've chosen open borders over a secure America.

They've chosen the murderer and terrorist leader, Ali Khamenei, over America's safety. They had a candle light vigil for him in New York. He would've loved to kill every one of them.

They're trying to stop Trump from doing anything even though the hypocrisy is blatant.

They're choosing criminals over innocents.

They're electing socialists and communists.

Why would ANY America-loving citizen support this? The left isn't even trying to hide it.

The only conclusion I can come to is team loyalty. Leftist voters can't even defend those they vote for. All they have is hatred.

This two-party system is hurting our country and has divided Americans.

We can't sustain this. Very bad things, I'm afraid, are going to happen.

We're letting communists and socialists destroy our country. They've convinced too many bleaters their tried and failed policies all throughout history. are the answer.

How have we gotten this bad? The far too many Americans who died for our freedoms, died for what?

For us to hand them back to communists and socialists?

If they could see us now, they would cry to see so many willing to do so.

It truly makes me want to cry. Shame on us.

 

[Gunny46]

He's actually praying to God let him hate more. Of course, God won't answer prayers for hatred. So sad to see people so full of hate...and for what? They don't even know.

James Carville goes on profanity-laced tirade against Trump, admits he has 'Trump derangement syndrome' and wants even more hate

James Carville goes on profanity-laced tirade against Trump, admits he has 'derangement syndrome'

Democratic strategist James Carville admitted that he has "Trump Derangement Syndrome" in a profanity-filled rant on Saturday, saying he wants to hate the president even more.

www.foxnews.com

He's a bitter old fool. The reality is he's probably more upset he doesn't recognize his own party anymore.

 

[atlkvb]

@atlkvb, I truly think too many look at it as a game. Good, bad or indifferent, they have to support their team.

The left, since Trump, has supported illegal foreign nationals over American citizens. Broad daylight. They didn't try to hide it. They chose Maduro over America.

They've chosen MS-13 gang members over American citizens and their safety.

They've chosen open borders over a secure America.

They've chosen the murderer and terrorist leader, Ali Khamenei, over America's safety. They had a candle light vigil for him in New York. He would've loved to kill every one of them.

They're trying to stop Trump from doing anything even though the hypocrisy is blatant.

They're choosing criminals over innocents.

They're electing socialists and communists.

Why would ANY America-loving citizen support this? The left isn't even trying to hide it.

The only conclusion I can come to is team loyalty. Leftist voters can't even defend those they vote for. All they have is hatred.

This two-party system is hurting our country and has divided Americans.

We can't sustain this. Very bad things, I'm afraid, are going to happen.

We're letting communists and socialists destroy our country. They've convinced too many bleaters their tried and failed policies all throughout history. are the answer.

How have we gotten this bad? The far too many Americans who died for our freedoms, died for what?

For us to hand them back to communists and socialists?

If they could see us now, they would cry to see so many willing to do so.

It truly makes me want to cry. Shame on us.

Hatred blinds them to everything you posted here. They can't see the Evil behind what they ultimately support constantly opposing Trump because they're so full of raw hatred for him!

It's a Spirit if you ask me @30CAT. Spirit of hate (against Christ and all things good)

 

[atlkvb]

@EER_Nation ...you laughed at my OP what's so funny about this?

(quoted from above linked article)
"Start with oil, because oil is where the entire relationship begins. China buys more than 80 percent of Iran’s crude oil exports at steep discounts. The shipments travel on a ghost fleet of tankers that switch off their transponders and relabel their cargo as Malaysian or Indonesian to circumvent American sanctions. Since 2021, the cumulative value of these purchases has exceeded $140 billion. This makes China the main reason the Islamic Republic has not gone bankrupt."

"The arrangement works beautifully for Beijing. It gets cheap oil for its industrial base, saving billions annually compared to market-rate suppliers. And in exchange, China acquires influence over a nation of 90 million people sitting astride the world’s most consequential energy corridor"

...more

"In 2021, the 25-Year Comprehensive Strategic Partnership committed China to invest an estimated $400 billion across Iran’s energy, banking, telecommunications, and infrastructure sectors, formalizing a relationship that was already underway. The deeper this integration runs, the less leverage anyone else has over Tehran, and the more leverage Beijing accumulates"

"Meanwhile, Chinese-flagged ships sailed through with less interference. Beijing contributed no vessels to the multinational protection force and issued no condemnation of the attacks. In fact, Chinese satellite companies were providing the Houthis with intelligence to enable their targeting of commercial vessels"

...more

"The Gulf monarchies, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, have lived for decades under the shadow of Iranian aggression. Historically, they managed this through close alignment with the U.S. But confidence in American reliability has eroded, a process that began with the Barack Obama administration’s pursuit of a nuclear deal with Tehran, deepened after the muted American response to the 2019 Aramco attacks by the Houthis on Saudi Arabia, and accelerated after the U.S. military’s withdrawal from Afghanistan. Gulf leaders increasingly believe they cannot rely solely on Washington"

"The more leverage China holds over Gulf capitals, the less likely those capitals are to side with Washington on the questions Beijing cares about most: Taiwan, semiconductor export controls, sanctions enforcement, and the future of the dollar-based financial order"
All of which brings us to the central problem. President Trump didn’t launch Operation Epic Fury only to punish Khamenei for his massacres. Trump launched it because every year Washington spends focusing on managing Tehran is another year Beijing gets to build control in the Pacific. The orientation of the Middle East will determine whether the U.S. can prevail in the defining confrontation of this century: a Chinese move against Taiwan"

"Why? First, in a Taiwan contingency, the sea lanes through which China imports roughly 70 percent of its oil become contested. Beijing will need alternative energy sources and will look westward to Iran, Russia, and any Gulf state willing to sell outside the dollar system. If the Middle East has already drifted into Beijing’s economic orbit by the time that crisis arrives, China begins the confrontation with a strategic energy reserve that American planners cannot disrupt

Second, the U.S. cannot fight a two-theater war. A Middle East that demands permanent crisis management bleeds the American military of the ships, aircraft, and munitions it needs for Pacific deterrence. By contrast, a Middle East restructured toward stability, where Iran’s proxy architecture has been degraded and Gulf partners are aligned, can be managed with a lighter footprint, freeing decisive combat power for the Pacific theater.

Finally, if a Taiwan crisis comes, the U.S. will need allied nations to impose punishing costs on China through sanctions, financial exclusion, and technology denial. If Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and others are so deeply engaged in the Chinese economic system that they refuse to curtail oil sales to Beijing during a Pacific war, the entire sanctions architecture will collapse at the moment it is needed most."

"For all these reasons, Iran must be understood as the central pillar of a regional order that Beijing has assembled. Operation Epic Fury is now cracking that pillar.
The nature of the threat makes this course not just preferable but necessary. Tehran’s deterrent has never rested solely on its nuclear program. It also possesses a mobile, survivable, and largely undetectable strike platform that can operate from any port or shipping lane, hitting from vectors no existing defense plan anticipates. A regime that can threaten American carriers from unmarked hulls in any ocean must be totally removed from the board"

"Crucially, none of this would be possible without the groundwork that has already been laid—not by the U.S., but by Israel. In the past few years, Israel has broken the Iranian-led axis, dismantled Hezbollah’s command structure, and proved that the entire edifice could be shattered by force. Acting largely alone and under relentless international pressure, the Jewish state has conducted the most consequential campaign against Chinese regional infrastructure this century"

"In this sense, Operation Epic Fury picks up where Israel left off, escalating from proxy destruction to direct confrontation with the hub itself. No comparable opportunity to inflict this kind of strategic damage on Chinese positioning has presented itself since the end of the Cold War"

"So yes, the Iran question was never about Iran. Remove the Islamic Republic from the equation, and China loses its pawns for a Taiwan contingency. Leave it in place, and the Middle East remains what Beijing designed it to be: a second front that Washington can never afford to leave and can never afford to stay in. Trump’s strikes are the first move by an American president who appears to understand that the road to the Pacific runs through Tehran"

I'll bet you that Leftist bot @EER_Nation isn't laughing now atl?

Neither are the Chinese or especially the Iranian Mullahs DJT!

I know, cause they're all dead!

 

[EER_Nation]

@EER_Nation ...you laughed at my OP what's so funny about this?

(quoted from above linked article)
"Start with oil, because oil is where the entire relationship begins. China buys more than 80 percent of Iran’s crude oil exports at steep discounts. The shipments travel on a ghost fleet of tankers that switch off their transponders and relabel their cargo as Malaysian or Indonesian to circumvent American sanctions. Since 2021, the cumulative value of these purchases has exceeded $140 billion. This makes China the main reason the Islamic Republic has not gone bankrupt."

"The arrangement works beautifully for Beijing. It gets cheap oil for its industrial base, saving billions annually compared to market-rate suppliers. And in exchange, China acquires influence over a nation of 90 million people sitting astride the world’s most consequential energy corridor"

...more

"In 2021, the 25-Year Comprehensive Strategic Partnership committed China to invest an estimated $400 billion across Iran’s energy, banking, telecommunications, and infrastructure sectors, formalizing a relationship that was already underway. The deeper this integration runs, the less leverage anyone else has over Tehran, and the more leverage Beijing accumulates"

"Meanwhile, Chinese-flagged ships sailed through with less interference. Beijing contributed no vessels to the multinational protection force and issued no condemnation of the attacks. In fact, Chinese satellite companies were providing the Houthis with intelligence to enable their targeting of commercial vessels"

...more

"The Gulf monarchies, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, have lived for decades under the shadow of Iranian aggression. Historically, they managed this through close alignment with the U.S. But confidence in American reliability has eroded, a process that began with the Barack Obama administration’s pursuit of a nuclear deal with Tehran, deepened after the muted American response to the 2019 Aramco attacks by the Houthis on Saudi Arabia, and accelerated after the U.S. military’s withdrawal from Afghanistan. Gulf leaders increasingly believe they cannot rely solely on Washington"

"The more leverage China holds over Gulf capitals, the less likely those capitals are to side with Washington on the questions Beijing cares about most: Taiwan, semiconductor export controls, sanctions enforcement, and the future of the dollar-based financial order"
All of which brings us to the central problem. President Trump didn’t launch Operation Epic Fury only to punish Khamenei for his massacres. Trump launched it because every year Washington spends focusing on managing Tehran is another year Beijing gets to build control in the Pacific. The orientation of the Middle East will determine whether the U.S. can prevail in the defining confrontation of this century: a Chinese move against Taiwan"

"Why? First, in a Taiwan contingency, the sea lanes through which China imports roughly 70 percent of its oil become contested. Beijing will need alternative energy sources and will look westward to Iran, Russia, and any Gulf state willing to sell outside the dollar system. If the Middle East has already drifted into Beijing’s economic orbit by the time that crisis arrives, China begins the confrontation with a strategic energy reserve that American planners cannot disrupt

Second, the U.S. cannot fight a two-theater war. A Middle East that demands permanent crisis management bleeds the American military of the ships, aircraft, and munitions it needs for Pacific deterrence. By contrast, a Middle East restructured toward stability, where Iran’s proxy architecture has been degraded and Gulf partners are aligned, can be managed with a lighter footprint, freeing decisive combat power for the Pacific theater.

Finally, if a Taiwan crisis comes, the U.S. will need allied nations to impose punishing costs on China through sanctions, financial exclusion, and technology denial. If Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and others are so deeply engaged in the Chinese economic system that they refuse to curtail oil sales to Beijing during a Pacific war, the entire sanctions architecture will collapse at the moment it is needed most."

"For all these reasons, Iran must be understood as the central pillar of a regional order that Beijing has assembled. Operation Epic Fury is now cracking that pillar.
The nature of the threat makes this course not just preferable but necessary. Tehran’s deterrent has never rested solely on its nuclear program. It also possesses a mobile, survivable, and largely undetectable strike platform that can operate from any port or shipping lane, hitting from vectors no existing defense plan anticipates. A regime that can threaten American carriers from unmarked hulls in any ocean must be totally removed from the board"

"Crucially, none of this would be possible without the groundwork that has already been laid—not by the U.S., but by Israel. In the past few years, Israel has broken the Iranian-led axis, dismantled Hezbollah’s command structure, and proved that the entire edifice could be shattered by force. Acting largely alone and under relentless international pressure, the Jewish state has conducted the most consequential campaign against Chinese regional infrastructure this century"

"In this sense, Operation Epic Fury picks up where Israel left off, escalating from proxy destruction to direct confrontation with the hub itself. No comparable opportunity to inflict this kind of strategic damage on Chinese positioning has presented itself since the end of the Cold War"

"So yes, the Iran question was never about Iran. Remove the Islamic Republic from the equation, and China loses its pawns for a Taiwan contingency. Leave it in place, and the Middle East remains what Beijing designed it to be: a second front that Washington can never afford to leave and can never afford to stay in. Trump’s strikes are the first move by an American president who appears to understand that the road to the Pacific runs through Tehran"

I'll bet you that Leftist bot @EER_Nation isn't laughing now atl?

Neither are the Chinese or especially the Iranian Mullahs DJT!

I know, cause they're all dead!

I didn’t read this nonsense. But, I laughed because the math doesn’t math when you consider one of the countries that’s hit hardest by this war is us, China’s geo-political rival. The mental gymnastics to try to explain this disastrous war is hilarious. There’s no evidence this has anything to do w China outside of an article from a right wing neocon think tank, which you’ve quoted here as if it were the Bible. Israel has wanted to wipe Iran off the map for decades for a multitude of reasons that does not involve China and we got pulled into it. Also, for a group that was supposed to be America First and anti-Forever Wars you all have changed your tune remarkably fast. There’s nothing America First about this war and there’s no benefit to the USA.

 

[atlkvb]

I didn’t read this nonsense. But, I laughed because the math doesn’t math when you consider one of the countries that’s hit hardest by this war is us, China’s geo-political rival. The mental gymnastics to try to explain this disastrous war is hilarious. There’s no evidence this has anything to do w China outside of an article from a right wing neocon think tank, which you’ve quoted here as if it were the Bible. Israel has wanted to wipe Iran off the map for decades for a multitude of reasons that does not involve China and we got pulled into it. Also, for a group that was supposed to be America First and anti-Forever Wars you all have changed your tune remarkably fast. There’s nothing America First about this war and there’s no benefit to the USA.

Maybe you should take a few minutes to read it then if you think this has nothing to do with us and our global geo-strategic positioning against China? If after you read that article I linked to, you still think this is all some game cooked up by Trump simply to amuse Israel, then you probably think Pitt is about to win the NCAA basketball tournament too?

Translation: You're delusional.

 

[EER_Nation]

Maybe you should take a few minutes to read it then if you think this has nothing to do with us and our global geo-strategic positioning against China? If after you read that article I linked to, you still think this is all some game cooked up by Trump simply to amuse Israel, then you probably think Pitt is about to win the NCAA basketball tournament too?

Translation: You're delusional.

Again, you quoting a think tank article like it’s the gospel is all I need to know about your intelligence.

 

[atlkvb]

Again, you quoting a think tank article like it’s the gospel is all I need to know about your intelligence.

And again, you not even bothering to read it or offer factual rebuttals tells me all I need to know about your lack of intelligence.

What's so funny about it if you didn't even read it?

You said: "There’s no evidence this has anything to do w China"...well that's a brilliant deduction off something you didn't even read! The article lays out in detail all the reasons China is intimately involved behind our strategic reasoning for this entire operation!

But since you didn't read it, no wonder you're so clueless!

 

[EER_Nation]

And again, you not even bothering to read it or offer factual rebuttals tells me all I need to know your lack of it.

Go back and read my first response for your “factual rebuttal”

 

[atlkvb]

Go back and read my first response for your “factual rebuttal”

A factual rebuttal requires Fact based responses.

Here's a fact you can rebut with the correct facts:

(from linked article)
Iran’s value to China also extends to proxy warfare. When Iran’s Houthis began attacking commercial shipping in the Red Sea in late 2023, the consequences rippled across the global economy. Container traffic through the Red Sea fell by 90 percent within three months. Goods worth roughly $1 trillion were disrupted in the first seven months. The rerouting of ships around Africa’s Cape of Good Hope added nearly two weeks and about $1 million in fuel costs to every voyage, driving freight rates between Asia and Europe.

The U.S. bore the heaviest burden of response. Carrier strike groups were deployed, air campaigns were sustained for months, and precision munitions costing between $1 million and $4 million per interceptor were expended at a rate that, by mid-2025, had consumed roughly a quarter of America’s high-end missile interceptor inventory"

Now YOU said there's "no evidence China was involved in this", and it doesn't effect the US correct? So I just quoted FACTS from the article you didn't even read refuting your uninformed commentary...so what's your FACTUAL rebuttal?

 

[EER_Nation]

A factual rebuttal requires Fact based responses.

Here's a fact you can rebut with the correct facts:

(from linked article)
Iran’s value to China also extends to proxy warfare. When Iran’s Houthis began attacking commercial shipping in the Red Sea in late 2023, the consequences rippled across the global economy. Container traffic through the Red Sea fell by 90 percent within three months. Goods worth roughly $1 trillion were disrupted in the first seven months. The rerouting of ships around Africa’s Cape of Good Hope added nearly two weeks and about $1 million in fuel costs to every voyage, driving freight rates between Asia and Europe.

The U.S. bore the heaviest burden of response. Carrier strike groups were deployed, air campaigns were sustained for months, and precision munitions costing between $1 million and $4 million per interceptor were expended at a rate that, by mid-2025, had consumed roughly a quarter of America’s high-end missile interceptor inventory"

Now YOU said there's "no evidence China was involved in this", and it doesn't effect the US correct? So I just quoted FACTS from the article you didn't even read refuting your uninformed commentary...so what's your FACTUAL rebuttal?

I’m not sure how this proves anything. China is the world’s largest exporter and the Middle East is a fraction of it. Like I said, the math doesn’t math when you consider this war is costing US taxpayers $900M to $1B per day and this war isn’t ending anytime soon. Not to mention, the economic impacts domestically. Do you think that’s going to help the affordability crisis here? How about gas which has been one of Trump’s prominent wins in his first term? Well, not anymore - get ready for $4 a gallon. America First, what happened to that? No more Forever Wars, what happened to that? Are you cool with being consistently lied to?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I’m not sure how this proves anything. China is the world’s largest exporter and the Middle East is a fraction of their financial impact. Like I said, the math doesn’t math when you consider this war is costing US taxpayers $900M to $1B per day and this war isn’t ending anytime soon. Not to mention, the economic impacts domestically. Do you think that’s going to help the affordability crisis here? How about gas which has been one of Trump’s prominent wins in his first term? Well, not anymore - get ready for $4 a gallon. America First, what happened to that? No more Forever Wars, what happened to that? Are you cool with being consistently lied to?

The problem here is, if Iran capitulates, what then? For you I mean?

I don’t hear anything anymore about Israel and Hamas. Trump ended that one and it got memory holed. Venezuela was a 1 day venture.

So, we’ll see where this goes, but the only people parroting the forever war stuff are the TDS anti-Trump crowd. I think the admin has been extremely clear, with defined objectives with Iran.

- No boots on the ground (probably some SOCOM cats there, if I were a betting man)
- Destroy their nuke program
- Destroy their missile program
- Air cover and bombing campaign to degrade their military capability and leadership structure to enable the moderates and Progressives to overthrow the regime.

If, with the help of the Kurds and the Moderates/Progressives we can topple the ruling regime, big win.

make no mistake, the Hardliners and IRGC is getting its *** handed to it. They were not expecting this.

 

[atlkvb]

I’m not sure how this proves anything. China is the world’s largest exporter and the Middle East is a fraction of it. Like I said, the math doesn’t math when you consider this war is costing US taxpayers $900M to $1B per day and this war isn’t ending anytime soon. Not to mention, the economic impacts domestically. Do you think that’s going to help the affordability crisis here? How about gas which has been one of Trump’s prominent wins in his first term? Well, not anymore - get ready for $4 a gallon. America First, what happened to that? No more Forever Wars, what happened to that? Are you cool with being consistently lied to?

Actually the "lies" were told to us when the failed Obama/Biden administration claimed giving the radical Iranian Mullahs billions of our tax dollars would somehow bring them into a strategic alliance with us and curb their pursuit of Nuclear weapons! Why weren't you upset with that waste of our hard earned tax dollars? What did the Mullahs do for America in response? (don't answer that, you might reveal your lack of intelligence)

With the US (instead of Chinese aligned Iranian Houthis) now in control of the shipping lanes through the straits of Hormuz, I'm more confident of the free flow of oil at market prices now than I'd be if the Chinese/Iranian axis were still in control of it! (read the linked article you can't factually refute)

I know you hate Trump, but why do you also hate America or want to see us under the thumb of an Islamic Caliphate or even worse an atheist Communist Dictatorship?

 

[EER_Nation]

Actually the "lies" were told to us when the failed Obama/Biden administration claimed giving the radical Iranian Mullahs billions of our tax dollars would somehow bring them into a strategic alliance with us and curb their pursuit of Nuclear weapons! Why weren't you upset with that waste of our hard earned tax dollars? What did the Mullahs do for America in response? (don't answer that, you might reveal your lack of intelligence)

With the US (instead of Chinese aligned Iranian Houthis) now in control of the shipping lanes through the straits of Hormuz, I'm more confident of the free flow of oil at market prices now than I'd be if the Chinese/Iranian axis were still in control of it! (read the linked article you can't factually refute)

I know you hate Trump, but why do you also hate America or want to see us under the thumb of an Islamic Caliphate or even worse an atheist Communist Dictatorship?

You’re making a lot of assumptions around how I felt about Obama’s deal w Iran. None of which you know anything about but keep making your broad generalizations as if it describes everyone that disagrees with you.

Also, you’re delusional if you think Iran posed any risk to America’s safety or we were at risk of an Islamic Caliphate, Dictator, whatever.

 

[atlkvb]

You’re making a lot of assumptions around how I felt about Obama’s deal w Iran. None of which you know anything about but keep making your broad generalizations as if it describes everyone that disagrees with you.

Also, you’re delusional if you think Iran posed any risk to America’s safety or we were at risk of an Islamic Caliphate, Dictator, whatever.

So I gather then you think they were just joking when they said "Death to America" or sent their proxies out around the globe to kill Americans? Besides, I thought you said earlier ITT this has nothing to do with the US?

@EER_Nation said:
"There’s nothing America First about this war and there’s no benefit to the USA"

If Iran posed no risk to us, why do you think they want us all dead? Or maybe you think they'd kill only Trump supporters and leave the rest of you misguided Leftists alone?

 

[atlkvb]

you’re delusional if you think Iran posed any risk to America’s safety or we were at risk of an Islamic Caliphate, Dictator, whatever.

So how "delusional" does one have to be ignoring this FACTUAL history of Iran's hostility/risk towards America?

a data-driven history of seven decades of conflict, sanctions, proxy wars, and the oil weapon that holds the world hostage.

excerpt:
The United States and Iran have been locked in one of the most consequential geopolitical rivalries of the modern era. What began with a CIA-backed coup in 1953 has spiraled across seven decades into hostage crises, tanker wars, proxy conflicts, nuclear standoffs, and - as of February 28, 2026 - direct American military strikes on Iranian soil. The two countries have not had formal diplomatic relations since 1980, making this one of the longest diplomatic ruptures between major nations in modern history.

@EER_Nation ...obviously confused about Iran

Oh no DJT...but that bot @EER_Nation sure is!

 

[roadtrasheer]

I didn’t read this nonsense. But, I laughed because the math doesn’t math when you consider one of the countries that’s hit hardest by this war is us, China’s geo-political rival. The mental gymnastics to try to explain this disastrous war is hilarious. There’s no evidence this has anything to do w China outside of an article from a right wing neocon think tank, which you’ve quoted here as if it were the Bible. Israel has wanted to wipe Iran off the map for decades for a multitude of reasons that does not involve China and we got pulled into it. Also, for a group that was supposed to be America First and anti-Forever Wars you all have changed your tune remarkably fast. There’s nothing America First about this war and there’s no benefit to the USA.

Please tell me you dont believe what you just typed! 1st this war is a month old .... please leave the forever tag off unless in continues. 2nd wiping out a enemy that has been blowing us up since 1979 is America first . They have killed thousands and cost billions.
Obama was paying them to stop ...lmao .... Biden tried giving them ice cream.... Trump put a boot up that azz.... all past presidents and congress has said every election cycle that Iran is a problem and they all had a solution that hasn't worked .... now you crying over a couple weeks of bombing...

 

[atlkvb]

Please tell me you dont believe what you just typed! 1st this war is a month old .... please leave the forever tag off unless in continues. 2nd wiping out a enemy that has been blowing us up since 1979 is America first . They have killed thousands and cost billions.
Obama was paying them to stop ...lmao .... Biden tried giving them ice cream.... Trump put a boot up that azz.... all past presidents and congress has said every election cycle that Iran is a problem and they all had a solution that hasn't worked .... now you crying over a couple weeks of bombing...

He hates Trump. These other excellent questions you asked him don't even matter past that.

 

[roadtrasheer]

He hates Trump. These other excellent questions you asked him don't even matter past that.

I would hate to hate so much that I hated doing good .... talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face .... Iran ***** slapped Carter and the slapping hasn't stopped. Talk is all they have done every election cycle about Iran, China and Russia + the border and illegals. Trump has taken all of there talking points off the table and they are pissed . Now they hate what they have wanted for generations. Add tariffs and hopefully we get more work and all our medical needs produced in the states. Drill baby drill....

 

[atlkvb]

@EER_Nation

You're such a two faced, weak minded, media controlled bot. You obviously hate Trump, but you can't actually detail which policy he's pursued that's so damaged either you or the country? You hinted (but didn't specify) that you disagreed over how the Obama/Biden administration dealt with Iran, however by all measurements their policies were a complete disaster and bought us nothing but trouble from the Mullahs.

You laugh and sneer at the facts presented to you over how Iran for almost the past 50 years was indeed a threat to America, yet you haven't or can't explain how we should have dealt with their threats of "Death to America" better than Trump has? What should we have done, ignore them?

You claimed you only want to see America first, yet you ignore how these recent actions initiated by Trump with the help of Israel have decimated Iran's military force & will leave that volatile region safer, more secure, with America standing alone as the pre-eminent power among the Arab States!

As we secure our victory over Iran and demonstrate that American resolve and solid leadership can produce spectacular results for us, you ignore all of that and sit there smug with your arms folded, doing nothing but privately seething inside over your irrational hatred of Trump instead of cheering for America!

How petty and selfish you are! However you're certainly not alone, virtually everyone on your losing side is now openly cheering for Trump to fail, simply to assuage your irrational hatred of him. If you and the Left truly are that despondent over Trump's success here's some advice.

Pick a better candidate, with better policies, who offers better results for America...then vote for that candidate! Trump will then quietly go away never to be heard from to torture your ungrateful, gutless Souls again.

How's that sound?

@EER_Nation ...best advice he's heard since Trump started tormenting him

Now if you losers on the Left could only find that candidate!