The Tight End Position

[redwine65]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

 

[Tahoe78]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

You have to throw them the ball before they can catch it....Look at the targets of the TE..

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

Is that TE transfer from Rutgers really good? Could be, apparently he's fast and athletic, playing out wide a lot last year.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

Johnny Mitchell

 

[oldjar07]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

Legrone would have been a great TE in the passing game, so it's not like they haven't tried. They're adding Vokolek next year and maybe Hickman can show what he can do. Not sold on coach Beckton either. Our TE blocking is terrible.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Legrone would have been a great TE in the passing game, so it's not like they haven't tried. They're adding Vokolek next year and maybe Hickman can show what he can do. Not sold on coach Beckton either. Our TE blocking is terrible.

Amen, I’m trying to figure out if Stoll and Allen are not being taught the right technique or there just lazy

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

Matt Herian dominated early when Callahan was here prior to that horrible leg fracture he had.

 

[c3o]

TE play and usage has been a mystery and just downright embarrassing.

These guys are talented. I don't believe there's much in our current scheme that tries to isolate them

 

[Gary1223]

Johnny Mitchell

Johnny was a beast

 

[hedonistimpulse]

Frost's time at UCF is skewed by the brilliance of Milton's play at QB in 2017, but Jordan Akins played a big part in making that offense hum that year and Oregon typically had one of the better TEs in the Pac conferences as well during Frost's time as the OC.

We all know UCF is just a commuter school in a second-rate conference, but Akins was a 3rd-round pick in the NFL draft as a 26-year-old former baseball player, so that's impressive work by all.

 

[ridge222]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

Obviously we haven't piled up TEs like Iowa. Man if we could have had half the dudes they have had over the past decade or so it would have been nice.

There have been some decent ones in recent memory. Cethan Carter was way under used, same with Kyler Reed. I didn't mind Ben Cotton and Mike McNeill, but yes you have to go back to the Johnny Mitchell and Junior Miller days to have any type of dude that would get looked at for post season honors.

 

[TruHusker]

I was reading through some of the top ten school's recruits and looked at who they picked up for TE's. There were several that had offers from Nebraska. That told me they were looking at some top tier talent and when they didn't show interest they didn't didn't take just anyone.

This O does a lot with the TE. They move around, get isolated, are in motion, catch quick screens, screens and do a lot of trap blocking. WHEN we get a truly dynamic player in that position you will see some big plays. One thing I wonder about is the height of these guys, we seem to be really tall. Give me a 6'4 or 5" guy who is athletic versus.one who is 6'7 or 8" when we don't even use that height to much of an advantage.

 

[Headcard]

Matt Herian dominated early when Callahan was here prior to that horrible leg fracture he had.

I’d love to have a guy like Cethan Carter back.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Johnny Mitchell a man among boys, jr Miller and great one, heck I’d take a Sheldon Jackson or William Washington, Washington was a hell of a blocking tight end

 

[BigB87]

Matt Herian dominated early when Callahan was here prior to that horrible leg fracture he had.

He was the first one that came to mind. Probably had an NFL career in his future prior the his injury, was never really the same after. I remember seeing pictures of when he was on the field, looked like he had a 2nd knee. Sick

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Tracy wistrom was pretty darn good until his knee injury

 

[Huskers_Rule]

Nebraska used to always burn a team with a tight end. we would run forever then hit the tight end.
worked quite well. but we never seemed to have a great tight end (unless my memory is shot)
like oklahoma with keith jackson, or the giants with bavario, and I think miami had a good one shockey.
Im watching the chiefs now and they hit the tight end a lot.

maybe in the past we didn't get the best tight ends cause their basic job was blocking.
but after seeing frost get 4 star receivers left and right this last recruiting cycle. why don't we get a great tight end? the one we have seems decent, does he have a chance to be great?
it seems since frost passes a lot or more than we did when we ran all the time, we would be looking for a decent tight end for short easy passes, instead of the swing pass all the time.

Junior Miller was a men among boys.

 

[redwine65]

Junior Miller was a men among boys.

good point, I forgot bout him, it's been some time

 

[spinner4_rivals42045]

Ive always wanted to pitch Nebraska to a recruit. And more than any spot I’d love to pitch TE.

Id tell them about Nebraska history. I’d tell them about all the titles. Then the players who’ve come through the program


I’d say QBs, we’ve had some great ones. We’ve had a Heisman winner at QB. We’ve had a 3 time MVP in the national championship game at QB who was arguably the best QB in college football history


RB - we’ve had plenty going all the way back to the 1930s where we had two all Americans We’ve had a Heisman winner there. We’ve had all pros


WR- we’ve had a Heisman there too


O-line- We’ve had multiple Outland winners, we’ve had a multiple Lombardi winners, we’ve had a Rimington winner. Hell the Rimington trophy is named after a Nebraska player


DT- we’ve had a lot of great ones there too. Our boy named Suh May be the most decorated college football DTs of all time


DE- some call us Defensive end U. We’ve had multiple all-Americans, Lombardi winners, and even a Draddy trophy winner at DE


LB- so many it’s hard to even tell you about them all. We once went 5 out of 6 years with all-Americans at LB.


DB- we have some lock down guys. 5 all- Americans in the last 20 years


Kickers- The NFL owes Nebraska royalties for the amount of kickers it put in the league. We once had 2 future NFL kickers on the roster at the same time


Punters- we really try not to use them but when we do, we have the best. Sam Koch is probably the best in the NFL and he’s a former Husker.



When we talk about our history at Nebraska there is only one thing really missing, a great TE. The programs only had one ALL - American at that spot and that’s back when TE was a totally different position then it was today. When fans talk about the best TEs in Nebraska history, the names they throw out there is a kid who left after his sophomore year or a kid who lost it all on one play.


Yes our history of greatness has been written but one thing that is keeping the door open, a great TE.

 

[oldjar07]

Our TE's are doing just fine in the passing game. Even Stoll has made some spectacular catches you don't really expect a TE to make. The major weakness has been blocking. If we could fix that, there's nothing wrong with the TE's we currently have.

 

[dinglefritz]

Johnny Mitchell

Junior Miller. That guy was just a monster. I think they listed him at 6'6" but standing next to him I thought he was closer to 6'8". HUGE guy who looked more like a DT than a TE.

 

[dinglefritz]

Is that TE transfer from Rutgers really good? Could be, apparently he's fast and athletic, playing out wide a lot last year.

He's supposed to be the schnizzle for what they want at TE. Fast enough to be wide and strong enough to block a DE in the run game. He's show good hands in the past as well.

 

[SeaOfRed75]

TE play and usage has been a mystery and just downright embarrassing.

These guys are talented. I don't believe there's much in our current scheme that tries to isolate them

I dont think they are that talented.

Stoll is average athletically at best for his size. Allen and Rafdal? Wastes of height that probably should have played basketball. We'll see about Hickman.

 

[CatColumbia]

I dont think they are that talented.

Stoll is average athletically at best for his size. Allen and Rafdal? Wastes of height that probably should have played basketball. We'll see about Hickman.

I’ve said it before, my grandma is more athletic than Stoll. Allen has hands of stone and Rafdal? What the hell happened to him? Been very disappointed with the progress from this group.

 

[c3o]

I dont think they are that talented.

Stoll is average athletically at best for his size. Allen and Rafdal? Wastes of height that probably should have played basketball. We'll see about Hickman.

Too small of a sample size. They aren’t even used. I think they look good when they catch the ball, but they get targeted like once a game

 

[CatColumbia]

Too small of a sample size. They aren’t even used. I think they look good when they catch the ball, but they get targeted like once a game

We love to throw them the ball on those swing passes. Not to mention, that means that our wideouts are blocking for the TE’s on that play. Shouldn’t it be the other way around ?

 

[c3o]

We love to throw them the ball on those swing passes. Not to mention, that means that our wideouts are blocking for the TE’s on that play. Shouldn’t it be the other way around ?

yeah, some of the personnel usage and play calls were odd.

Im not a fan of the offensive plays we’ve run. I’m old fashioned though. I like power

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Doesn’t take some super talented dude to be a successful H-back in a primarily 1-back offense...he just has to versatile. Even in the rare situation where they lead up on an LB, you just need to get a piece anymore.

 

[HominidHusker]

Bottom line: we need more production from TE. If the guys on roster can’t get it done, they need to bring more in. Look for 2 TE’s signed in 2020.

Vokolek seems like a beast but I think one of the players (maybe Allen) called him a little slow.
Losing Legrone didn’t help. I think Allen still has potential. Hickman is a real interesting piece. It’d be fantastic if he can emerge. Coach said he was blocking well which is an excellent sign.

 

[huskerssalts]

Bump

 

[Newbomb_Turk1]

He's supposed to be the schnizzle for what they want at TE. Fast enough to be wide and strong enough to block a DE in the run game. He's show good hands in the past as well.

Had heard he needed some major work on blocking and was confirmed by Beckton earlier this Fall. Just hope Duval doesnt bulk him up anymore. Love the Penn St/Notre Dame TEs of the past decade that were 6-6 255-260 .

"He's a huge human being," tight ends coach Sean Beckton has said. "His dad is a college coach, so he understands the game … He's all of 6-foot-7, 265 pounds, so he's heavier than the guys that we have on the roster right now."

At the end of October, Beckton said coaches knew when Vokolek arrived he was "deficient with some blocking technique," but made it a major focus.