The problem with calling this a rebuilding year

[Shamoan]

Me either.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

No -- but at this same point in time -- you were 100% POSITIVE we were going to go 4-8 in 2013.
Need I keep going?

I don't see anything in that thread that makes me look bad so, by all means, please keep going. We were 4-5 with 3 to go. We lost once and won two games in OT. Man, I missed HUGE!

We are having a Croom season (in year 8!) and the best defense for Mullen you have is, "B-b-but you were wrong in three years ago!"

Consider me burned****

Mullen quit trying after November of 2014. He didnt quit in 2013. Thats where the comparison falls apart.

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

is what you call getting burned...

Engie going no-holds-barred with that.

I literally LOL'd at this. Run along child the adults are talking.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

I literally LOL'd at this. Run along child the adults are talking.

Ole engie was on the Fire Mullins bandwagon in 2013 too. This thread is rather funny, if I must say so myself.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I loved Dak but didn`t see him having the year he had in 14...Mullen just rode his coat tails. If Mullen had been putting the right foundation under his program rather than job hunting it wouldn`t look (so quickly) like it does now. Do you see another Dak-like savior coming along to bail his *** out this time ? With his half *** recruiting, chronic staff turnover and never ending soap operas Mullen`s chickens are coming home to roost. It`s here and you can type til you`re blue in the face and won`t change it one bit.

 

[engie]

Ole engie was on the Fire Mullins bandwagon in 2013 too. This thread is rather funny, if I must say so myself.

I make plenty of mistakes. Alot actually. But I'm not prone to making the same exact mistakes twice. Unlike many in this very thread.

 

[engie]

Mullen quit trying after November of 2014. He didnt quit in 2013. Thats where the comparison falls apart.

Yet -- for all of 2013 -- you claimed he had quit.

But this time -- he has quit for realz!**

 

[engie]

I loved Eli but didn`t see him having the year he had in 03...Cutcliffe just rode his coat tails. If Cutcliffe had been putting the right foundation under his program rather than actually being a good person it wouldn`t look (so quickly) like it does now. Do you see another Eli-like savior coming along to bail his *** out this time ? With his half *** recruiting, chronic staff loyalty and never ending prayer meetings Cutcliffe`s chickens are coming home to roost. It`s here and you can type til you`re blue in the face and won`t change it one bit.

FIFY

Good thing that guy forgot how to coach though... Just wonder how much further along OM would be as an actual program -- had they not made a knee jerk reaction -- retained stability -- and been to probably 16-18 bowls in the last 20 years. Particularly continuing to hit us in the nuts through the Croom era and probation. The uptick they are having now would be perceived the same way it's perceived when Virginia Tech has a good year -- rather than being perceived as pony excess

 

[CookieMonster.sixpack]

Yet -- for all of 2013 -- you claimed he had quit.

But this time -- he has quit for realz!**

Internet bickering aside, I have always criticized Mullen for his use of personnel (Russell, Perkins, Holloway, etc.) and his play calling (how about aNOTHER QB draw on 3rd and long!?!?) but I pretty sure I didn't say he quit in 2013. If I did, I was wrong. But I don't think I did. I'm not going to look through threads to find out. Maybe he gets his fire back, he did look into it Friday night, but I think the recruiting (especially OL) has made it too little too late. I'd love for us to turn it around. Don't think we will. I understand the devil you know argument. I think we can do better. Would hate for us to be reliving 2001-03 Sherrill.

 

[engie]

Those Sherrill classes were still top 20 classes. But -- at absolute most -- we are in 2001 right now. Dan isn't getting two more years to play this game. But it does still have to play out beyond a couple of bad games. He'll be made or broken next year should he choose to return. And the job pool will probably be more attractive with fewer probable bigtime openings.

 

[HaleStater]

Yeah. This team is 2013 which should have basically been everyone's expectation entering the year. I do think we had a bit more offense then than this year though.

2013's team would kick this team's *** by 3 tds. I'm not misremembering anything. This offensive line is the worst one I've ever seen Us have in my lifetime.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

You say that -- but there was a LOT of young guys showing flashes last night. Spencer was f'n awesome. Mixon. Williams. Dear. Fitz had some flashes. Simmons. McLaurin. Leo. Peters with some plays. Durr with some plays. Smokey was decent again. Only one corner really got posterized -- and he was a senior.

The guys with the exceedingly bad plays -- were Jiles(sr), Rankin(jr), Senior(sr), Ross(sr), Graves(jr or sr) etc...

We ran the ball a lot better than we have been. A product of playing younger/better RBs. Would have run the ball really well if not for OL(all upperclassmen) getting blown back 3 yards into all the running lanes at key moments of the game and our best OL going out with injury.

Fitz missed throws -- but he missed almost all of them the exact same way with pretty consistent precision. He made one ill-advised throw into double coverage. The 2nd INT was a timing route that wasn't run by the WR. All of the identical overthrows are a result of the ball sailing on him due to footwork. Something that will be corrected with time and experience. He's not missing left or right. He's not missing short. He's missing long when throwing off his back foot -- when we ask him to throw from a non-existent pocket. He's going to be fine. More confident of that now than I have been at any previous point.

We've got issues at WR with the upperclassmen. None of them are seemingly capable of being the guy with Fitz. Mixon and Dear seem to catch his "ugly" ball just fine. If/when the bigger freshmen WR step up, we should be OK out there. The jury is still out on the defense -- just no such thing as a seamless transition to a 3-4.

I still think the most logical approach for us -- instead of blowing everything up and if we absolutely can't fire him -- is to move Hev to TE like he was with Urban -- Sallach to an office -- and go get an OL coach/recruiter.

Now you just ain't playing fair... You're using actual examples and not just blanket statements.

Your last sentence is the smartest thing I have read on this board in ages.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

2013's team would kick this team's *** by 3 tds. I'm not misremembering anything. This offensive line is the worst one I've ever seen Us have in my lifetime.

2002 OL with Fant was a lot worse than this line and at least 3 of Crooms OL are worse. And that 2013 was seconds away from losing to 2-10 Kentucky. Things just always appear worse in the moment and the further away from a season our memories fade. It's the immediate game or season blinders that we fans have of the results.