Let's start by simply saying that was a great win and Rutgers, at a minimum will be in the NIT and will care about winning it and can win it. The path to the NCAA's is rough as of today because the team sits at 88 now and only has 2 Quad 1 opportunities regular season and we know that the committee does not put much stock in the conference tourney. An upset at no. 2 Purdue would be the most helpful. A win at Nebraska is mandatory, as is a home win against Norhtwestern. The league is getting 5 teams in and 3 are set at Purdue,Illinois and Wisconsin, who is in free fall. They could fall out and be replaced by Izzo. Rutgers really wants Wisconsin to righ the ship and to have Princeton sweep both Yale and Cornell at home,which is a very tall task but certainly doable. And of course, to get some help from Indiana who needs to get a couple of upsets. I think 10-10 is more than realistic and 11-9 certainly doable. You have 6 players in Jeremiah,Mag,Cliff,J-Mike,Hyatt and now Noah who can score and that is a huge relief and lift.
The NET Conundrum
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I thought Purdue, @ Nebraska, Northwestern, and @ Wisconsin are Quad 1 opportunities. Heck, isn't @ Indiana another Quad 1 opportunity?
Slight correction, RU is 86 in NET currently.
If we win the next two we might get to 75 and become a Quad 1 team for a visiting opponent in our last 3 home games, which will make it tougher for us.
Gotta sweep at home and split on the road to be in contention for a NCAA bid. I also think 2 wins in the B1G tournament will give us a tie-breaker over other bubble teams.
Either way, we have a lot of work to do, but the optimism and opportunity is definitely there now.
Quad 1
At Purdue
At Nebraska
At Wisconsin
Quad 2
Northwestern
Ohio State (barely)
At Minnesota
Quad 3
Maryland
Michigan
Is it too early to name teams to root for and teams to put a spell on ?
In the BIG probably - but it looks like we’re about to lose a Q1 win with Villanova pounding SHU.
How about we just win the remainder of our games and no questions asked
That’s a conundrum too.
We want SHU to lose as competing for a bid.
Or do we want SHU to be a good win?
We want them to remain ahead of the other bubblers in the conference. It would really help if Georgetown could beat a few of them too.
No need to add Purdue, Michigan or Ohio St to this discussion
This is where the 11 middle teams stand below 1)Purdue
6 left...
Nebraska(17-8, 7-7) H 7-0, R 0-7 / 3-5, 3-3, 4-0, 7-13 to 13-7
H vs 85 MN, 86 RU, 98 PSU, R @ 72 OSU, 100 IND, 111 UM
7 left...
Wisconsin(16-8, 8-5) H 5-1 R 3-4 / 6-5 4-3 1-0, 8-12 to 15-5
H vs 72 OSU, 82 MD, 14 ILL, 86 RU, R @ 65 Iowa, 100 IND, 2 PUR
Mich St(15-9, 7-6) H 6-1 R 1-5 / 3-7 2-2 6-0, 7-13 to 14-6
H vs 65 Iowa, 72 OSU, vs NW, R @ 98 PSU, 111 UM, @ PUR, 100 IND
Indiana(14-10, 6-7) H 4-2 R 2-5 / 1-8 3-1 5-1, 6-14 to 13-7
H vs 55 NW. 53 NEB, 21 Wisc, 23 MSU, R @ 98 PSU, 82 MD, 85 MN
Maryland(13-11, 5-8) H 3-3 R 2-5 / 2-6 2-2 2-3, 5-15 to 12-8
H vs 65 Iowa, 14 ILL, 55 NW, 100 IND, R @ 21 Wisc, 86 RU, 100 IND
***Ohio St 14-10, 4-9) Q1/2 1-9 & Mich(8-16, 3-10) Q1/2 5-12, 0% chance***
8 or 9 left... NW PSU MN and Iowa playing today,
Illinois(17-6, 8-4) H 5-1 R 3-3 / 3-5 4-0 5-1, 8-12 to 16-4
H 111 UM, 65 Iowa, 85 MN, 2 PUR, R 82 MD, 98 PSU, 21 Wisc, 65 Iowa
Northwest'n(16-7, 7-5) H 6-0 R 1-5 / 4-5 3-1 3-0, 7-13 to 15-5
H 98 PSU, 111 UM, 65 Iowa, 85 MN, R 86 RU, 100 IND, 82 MD, 23 MSU
Minnesota(15-7, 6-5) H 4-2 R 2-3 / 1-3 4-3 1-1, 6-14 to 15-5
H 86 RU, 72 OSU, 98 PSU, 100 IND, *R 65 Iowa, 2 PUR, 53 NEB, 14 ILL, 53 NW*
Penn St(12-11, 6-6) H 4-2 R 2-4 / 1-5 4-3 2-2, 6-14 to 14-6
H 23 MSU, 14 ILL, 100 IND, 82 MD, R 55 NW, 53 NEB, 65 Iowa, 85 MN
Iowa(13-10, 5-7) H 3-3 R 2-4 / 0-6 5-2 1-2, 5-15 to 13-7
H 85 MN, 21 Wisc, 98 PSU, 14 ILL, R 82 MD, 23 MSU, 14 ILL, 55 NW
Rutgers(13-1, 5-7) H 3-3 R 2-4 / 2-8 3-1 2-1, 5-15 to 13-7
H 55 NW, 82 MD, 111 UM, 72 OSU, R 85 MN, 2 PUR, 53 NEB, 21 Wisc
It would take a total collapse for 2)Illinois, 3)Wisconsin or 4)Mich St to miss with their remaining schedule. 5)Northwestern is comfortably in the 5th spot with their remaining schedule and Q1/2 record.
6)Nebraska easiest remaining schedule but can only hurt their resume. Nebraska needs 2 of 3 road(1-7), which means at least 5-2, 2 road wins, 1 home loss or 6-1 finish. All 7 games will be Q2 or Q3, Q1 3-5 is there unless 21 Wisc or 23 Mich St falls below 30.
7)Minnesota the hardest 5 road games left could easily lose all 5, wins @ Mich and @ PSU only, they will lose again at home, not looking good
8)Indiana has the hardest home schedule left, and a 2-5 road record, not looking good either.
9)Maryland & 10)Penn St their home courts are horrible, not sure if their is enough winnable games left for either.
11) Iowa has no Q1 wins but 5 opportunities at Q1s, and 1 Q2, I would think they need Q1 3-2 and no more Q3 losses(1-2) to have a chance but they haven't been consistent enough this year that all of this happens.
Our schedule sets up nicely to become the 6th team if we can get to 19. I don't trust Nebraska staying in unless they win 2 of 3 road games and they have looked horrible on the road. 2019-20 Rutgers was 2-9 road, lost 1 by 12, 8 single digit losses, 0-1 neutral. Nebraska has lost 5 of 7 by double digits, 1-0 neutral vs Q3 171 Oregón St.
This is where the 11 middle teams stand below 1)Purdue
6 left...
Nebraska(17-8, 7-7) H 7-0, R 0-7 / 3-5, 3-3, 4-0, 7-13 to 13-7
H vs 85 MN, 86 RU, 98 PSU, R @ 72 OSU, 100 IND, 111 UM
7 left...
Wisconsin(16-8, 8-5) H 5-1 R 3-4 / 6-5 4-3 1-0, 8-12 to 15-5
H vs 72 OSU, 82 MD, 14 ILL, 86 RU, R @ 65 Iowa, 100 IND, 2 PUR
Mich St(15-9, 7-6) H 6-1 R 1-5 / 3-7 2-2 6-0, 7-13 to 14-6
H vs 65 Iowa, 72 OSU, vs NW, R @ 98 PSU, 111 UM, @ PUR, 100 IND
Indiana(14-10, 6-7) H 4-2 R 2-5 / 1-8 3-1 5-1, 6-14 to 13-7
H vs 55 NW. 53 NEB, 21 Wisc, 23 MSU, R @ 98 PSU, 82 MD, 85 MN
Maryland(13-11, 5-8) H 3-3 R 2-5 / 2-6 2-2 2-3, 5-15 to 12-8
H vs 65 Iowa, 14 ILL, 55 NW, 100 IND, R @ 21 Wisc, 86 RU, 100 IND
***Ohio St 14-10, 4-9) Q1/2 1-9 & Mich(8-16, 3-10) Q1/2 5-12, 0% chance***
8 or 9 left... NW PSU MN and Iowa playing today,
Illinois(17-6, 8-4) H 5-1 R 3-3 / 3-5 4-0 5-1, 8-12 to 16-4
H 111 UM, 65 Iowa, 85 MN, 2 PUR, R 82 MD, 98 PSU, 21 Wisc, 65 Iowa
Northwest'n(16-7, 7-5) H 6-0 R 1-5 / 4-5 3-1 3-0, 7-13 to 15-5
H 98 PSU, 111 UM, 65 Iowa, 85 MN, R 86 RU, 100 IND, 82 MD, 23 MSU
Minnesota(15-7, 6-5) H 4-2 R 2-3 / 1-3 4-3 1-1, 6-14 to 15-5
H 86 RU, 72 OSU, 98 PSU, 100 IND, *R 65 Iowa, 2 PUR, 53 NEB, 14 ILL, 53 NW*
Penn St(12-11, 6-6) H 4-2 R 2-4 / 1-5 4-3 2-2, 6-14 to 14-6
H 23 MSU, 14 ILL, 100 IND, 82 MD, R 55 NW, 53 NEB, 65 Iowa, 85 MN
Iowa(13-10, 5-7) H 3-3 R 2-4 / 0-6 5-2 1-2, 5-15 to 13-7
H 85 MN, 21 Wisc, 98 PSU, 14 ILL, R 82 MD, 23 MSU, 14 ILL, 55 NW
Rutgers(13-1, 5-7) H 3-3 R 2-4 / 2-8 3-1 2-1, 5-15 to 13-7
H 55 NW, 82 MD, 111 UM, 72 OSU, R 85 MN, 2 PUR, 53 NEB, 21 Wisc
It would take a total collapse for 2)Illinois, 3)Wisconsin or 4)Mich St to miss with their remaining schedule. 5)Northwestern is comfortably in the 5th spot with their remaining schedule and Q1/2 record.
6)Nebraska easiest remaining schedule but can only hurt their resume. Nebraska needs 2 of 3 road(1-7), which means at least 5-2, 2 road wins, 1 home loss or 6-1 finish. All 7 games will be Q2 or Q3, Q1 3-5 is there unless 21 Wisc or 23 Mich St falls below 30.
7)Minnesota the hardest 5 road games left could easily lose all 5, wins @ Mich and @ PSU only, they will lose again at home, not looking good
8)Indiana has the hardest home schedule left, and a 2-5 road record, not looking good either.
9)Maryland & 10)Penn St their home courts are horrible, not sure if their is enough winnable games left for either.
11) Iowa has no Q1 wins but 5 opportunities at Q1s, and 1 Q2, I would think they need Q1 3-2 and no more Q3 losses(1-2) to have a chance but they haven't been consistent enough this year that all of this happens.
Our schedule sets up nicely to become the 6th team if we can get to 19. I don't trust Nebraska staying in unless they win 2 of 3 road games and they have looked horrible on the road. 2019-20 Rutgers was 2-9 road, lost 1 by 12, 8 single digit losses, 0-1 neutral. Nebraska has lost 5 of 7 by double digits, 1-0 neutral vs Q3 171 Oregón St.
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Rutgers is certainly not making the NIT "at a minimum." They might get there. They might not.
I would hope the NCAA doesnt look at the NET one bit and that isnt Rutgers problem. Our problem is our record relative to our schedule and our lack of wins in Q1.
At minimum, no. But we’ve at least graduated from the NIT being a reach situation. Unless we lose more games than we win from here on in we’ll finish with a minimum of 18 wins which I’d think would be a virtual lock for the NIT.
Great info and breakdown. This is very helpful. Thank you Scarlet.
When it all said and done tho, if we keep winning game the better chance we have of controlling own destiny. Let’s beat NW!
so doing a bit of work looking at things and there are 60 schools competing for 36 at large spots and RU is at least one of those 24 right now which is more than you can say for Iowa and Maryland who are not. Right off the bat, RU has a better resume than schools ahead of them in the NET such as SMU, Drake, Minnesota, Miami, Colorado, Pitt, Princeton, Oregon.
Candidly, I think the best reference group is Northwestern and Nebraska,because it is highly possible that if Rutgers goes 6-2 and all things are equal than one or 2 of those 3 will Dance. If 2,then one in the Play In game.
not bacatology per se but there will be a rough review of the playing field coming either Tuesday or Wednesday
Judging from last year’s “snub,” the Committee put a lot of stock in the end of the year collapse. This year perhaps our hopefully end of the year run, should we continue to have one, will be a plus.