Just watched the final drive on BTN. All I heard was about the terrible missed PI call. What about the blatant hook and hold on Mo Barry right in front of ref?? Hmmm..
The missed PI call..
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The game announcers talked way more about that holding call being missed that the P.I. not being called. Why the selective outrage about it?What about the blatant hook and hold on Mo Barry right in front of ref?? Hmmm..
Because I didn't hear a peep about it on the BTN show. They could have highlighted a ton of missed calls. Both sides. But the show and Fitz made it sound like the PI was the reason they lost.
Just watched the final drive on BTN. All I heard was about the terrible missed PI call. What about the blatant hook and hold on Mo Barry right in front of ref?? Hmmm..
Or the two personal foul penalties that gave NW 30 yards and a shot at a go ahead field goal late in the 4th.
UThe horse collar call on Domann was horrible and the roughing the passer call was probably one of the worst roughing calls I’ve seen in a long time. The ball had literally just come off his fingertips when he got lit up. Frost was in the Refs ear after those calls as well. He was obviously not happy.
How about the placement of the ball on the PI call against us earlier in the game? The Big10 is going to have to release an explanation on that one.
calls late in the game that may have influenced the outcome are always amplified
those calls late in the game on us - horse caller, PI with a ? catchable ball, roughing the passer are diluted because they missed the FG
the alleged PI that didn't get called lead to the interception and subsequent game winning FG - those decisions are going to get amplified
you can argue whether or not that PI should have been called but there is no doubt that if the roles would have been reversed we would be outraged that it wasn't called vs minimizing the no call
those calls late in the game on us - horse caller, PI with a ? catchable ball, roughing the passer are diluted because they missed the FG
the alleged PI that didn't get called lead to the interception and subsequent game winning FG - those decisions are going to get amplified
you can argue whether or not that PI should have been called but there is no doubt that if the roles would have been reversed we would be outraged that it wasn't called vs minimizing the no call
Overall that was one of the most poorly officiated games I’ve seen in a long time.
They were clueless. One play their were 2 calls against Minny on same play and the ref was announcing it saying offsetting?? I was yelling you dumb mfers at the TV. Do your jobs!!
Yep. The penalties that went against us gave them an opportunity for a late go ahead field goal. They missed. The missed penalty that benefited us gave us a shot at a game winning field goal. We hit.
The Domann call was understandable because it LOOKED like a horse collar real time. I didn’t like the call, obviously, but I understood it. The Davis call was a penalty not because of the timing but because he threw his whole weight on the QB and didn’t disengage.
The PI non-call was egregious and terrible. I didn’t even celebrate the pick because I was sure it was getting overturned.
I thought the horse collar was legit. Not sure whether the pile driving of the QB is actually a roughing call in college (I know it is in pros).
They missed the pass interference, but also missed the hold on Barry.
They missed the pass interference, but also missed the hold on Barry.
things are moving so fast that how things look are often as important as what actually occurs
a DB that is off balance and looks "awkward" is probably more likely to have a PI called against him when it is close as opposed to a DB that is on-balance and looks fluid. A great example is the contact can be exactly the same but a call will likely depend on whether or not the DB is looking back for the ball or not.
There is also an art to drawing PI calls by a WR or holding calls by the O-line
a DB that is off balance and looks "awkward" is probably more likely to have a PI called against him when it is close as opposed to a DB that is on-balance and looks fluid. A great example is the contact can be exactly the same but a call will likely depend on whether or not the DB is looking back for the ball or not.
There is also an art to drawing PI calls by a WR or holding calls by the O-line
Despite any calls, if we would have lost there’d be more blame on our performance than officiating. Can’t let the refs determine the outcome, but it does get frustrating.
yep, we are rhe new guy with the nice car, the neighborhood hates us.
it was so bad the refs were calling penalties on Minny? I saw a terribly officiated game but I missed that one
Pretty sure the PI in question is the jersey grab on the INT, not the one on the uncatchable pass with the Roughing call.
Legit? He grabbed the ball carrier by the top of the shoulder pad and did absolutely nothing that falls under the horse collar rule.
I can sort of understand why the flag was thrown, based on how the players came down. But it was still an incorrect call.
Maybe I’m way off but it looked to me the receiver that was interfered with was running a pick play on honus
I just watched the replay, to me jojo had a little jersey but nothing to disrupt the receivers patch he let go fairly quickly, the other one in question was honus on the other receiver I’m still going to stick with my assessment the receiver was running a pick, in regular speed it doesn’t look all that bad. Let’s put it this way I’ve see really ticks tack pi calls and then you’ll see the receiver get mugged and no call. Look at the pi Nebraska got in there own end zone, the was a bad call. Maybe a makeup
I truly believe the QB position will have two flags on his belt and it will be flag football for the QB position.
Let’s go back to the nfl days in the 70’s and 80’s where you grab the quarterback and it’s whistled dead because of the rule in the grasp. Gotta love that rule
It was a horrible missed call...but this is why statisticians say that one score games are toss-ups. Missed calls fall into the random luck category. We didn't "win" that game yesterday...the coin flipped in our favor. It was a completely even game, that missed calle took them from field goal range and gave us an opportunity for a game winning field goal. Glad we won because we might make a bowl based on that win but we didn't "earn" the win. Much like we didn't "earn" the loss to colorado. Just mediocre teams crapping it up.Just watched the final drive on BTN. All I heard was about the terrible missed PI call. What about the blatant hook and hold on Mo Barry right in front of ref?? Hmmm..
I just rewatched that play and there was no way PI could have been called. Sullivan wasn't covering the receiver and didn't disrupt him. The ball and both players all came together at the same time, and neither made a play on the ball. It could have just as easily be argued that it was offensive pass interference as defensive. Just a weird play.
The roughing the passer call was definitely B's. The pi no call at the end of the game, if I'm NW I'm calling bs on that one. Not a good grade out for that crew
There was a flag thrown on us late on the play that NW missed the FG. That was on the heels of a couple very questionable calls to get NW into FG position.
Anyone have an idea what the flag was for?
The refs huddled and basically came to the conclusion that there was no way they could
call another penalty in that situation.
Anyone have an idea what the flag was for?
The refs huddled and basically came to the conclusion that there was no way they could
call another penalty in that situation.
The initial call was unnecessary roughness, on who no idea. I ran back the field goal try and rewatched it. There was nothing remotely resembled that, nobody touched either the kicker or holder