The good old days

CLANGA

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Dan and Hev lost a 3 star o-line to ucf. Best part is the kid comes out and says they are spamming his phone mad about it. Some things never change.
 

Smoked Toag

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I was going to say as long as Danny stays in the top 10-15 he would be alright, but then I went and looked at his recruiting. Currently sitting at 28th, after a 4-year run at 14, 9, 9, 12. Shorts is headed the wrong direction, and makes you wonder if he's missed his peak. I mean he should be recruiting best right now.

Maybe he gets it done, long way to NSD but he certainly could make it easier on himself if he wasn't so bad at recruiting. It almost seems like State was a better situation for him, because he was recruiting kids that had a chip on their shoulder, like he does. He needs to take Saban to lunch and ask him what he does, because like Danny, Saban is a raging ******* but still is able to recruit well.
 

FISHDAWG

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Dec 27, 2009
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Dan and Hev lost a 3 star o-line to ucf. Best part is the kid comes out and says they are spamming his phone mad about it. Some things never change.

I'm sure that stung them because they currently only have ONE o-line commit for this year
 

OliveBranchDAWG

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Aug 22, 2012
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I’d give anything for Dan to still be our coach and our biggest frustration as fans is o line recruiting.
 

Seinfeld

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Nov 30, 2006
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I’m calling it that 2018 would’ve been 10-2 at worst with a sugar bowl bid. And IF we’re to assume that Mullen would’ve gotten him, expectations would be sky high for year 3 of Shrader
 

Smoked Toag

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I’m calling it that 2018 would’ve been 10-2 at worst with a sugar bowl bid. And IF we’re to assume that Mullen would’ve gotten him, expectations would be sky high for year 3 of Shrader
Shrader wasn't even looking at MSU until Slophead got here. Keytaon Thompson was going to be the QB.

I'm all for looking fondly on the Mullen years, but let's be real here, he checked out after 2015 and had gotten real lazy in recruiting, and put together a big class of JUCOs, which was what led to us being good in 2017 and 2018. We were about to fall real hard after that. For all the things Slophead did wrong, he did solidify the talent gaps that left after 2018.
 

johnson86-1

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Aug 22, 2012
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Shrader wasn't even looking at MSU until Slophead got here. Keytaon Thompson was going to be the QB.

I'm all for looking fondly on the Mullen years, but let's be real here, he checked out after 2015 and had gotten real lazy in recruiting, and put together a big class of JUCOs, which was what led to us being good in 2017 and 2018. We were about to fall real hard after that. For all the things Slophead did wrong, he did solidify the talent gaps that left after 2018.

Yep. You'd like to think big years in 2017 and 2018 would have helped us fill those gaps, but I think Dan and his club had already proven that they would use a big year to coast in recruiting, not buckle down and try to capitalize on it.

I do think Keyton would have been pretty decent with Dan. Probably a little bit better than Relf, just not as good as getting tough yards but better able to break big ones. But he likely would have had to play with only 4 SEC caliber OL, and maybe only 3. And we also could have ended up with problems on the DL too, so we were likely going to end up with a similar record in 2019, just with a team that looked well coached but undertalented instead of a team that was ok on talent but poorly coached.
 

maroonmadman

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Nov 7, 2010
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He will now probably come and poach some of our better recruits. Be careful what y'all say.
 

Go Budaw

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Aug 22, 2012
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I was going to say as long as Danny stays in the top 10-15 he would be alright, but then I went and looked at his recruiting. Currently sitting at 28th, after a 4-year run at 14, 9, 9, 12. Shorts is headed the wrong direction, and makes you wonder if he's missed his peak. I mean he should be recruiting best right now.

Maybe he gets it done, long way to NSD but he certainly could make it easier on himself if he wasn't so bad at recruiting. It almost seems like State was a better situation for him, because he was recruiting kids that had a chip on their shoulder, like he does. He needs to take Saban to lunch and ask him what he does, because like Danny, Saban is a raging ******* but still is able to recruit well.

They won’t finish 28th. They will have a Top 10-12 class when its all said and done. That may not be good enough for their fans, but that’s the level of recruiting that Clemson built two natty teams with.
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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Dan's forte here was player development, which of course takes time. With the advent of NIL you have to wonder if he would still have the time to develop a player fully, after the player began to show his potential, before someone else bought him.
 

Smoked Toag

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Jul 15, 2021
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Dan's forte here was player development, which of course takes time. With the advent of NIL you have to wonder if he would still have the time to develop a player fully, after the player began to show his potential, before someone else bought him.
This 'concern' is badly overinflated, I believe. Notwithstanding a coaching change, which of course throws development out the window.
 

thatsbaseball

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May 29, 2007
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It'll be interesting to watch and see IF there is more movement among "late bloomers" at all the smaller schools as they start to develop though. I honestly have no idea how this is all going to play out.