The Commish

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

Forget about going into the details of how inept this man is. Just looking at 2020 from a 10,000 foot view is enough to make you puke.

-Cancels season prematurely for reasons I won't get into.
-Refuses to allow teams to schedule outside opponents.
-Completely contradicts himself and reinstates the season. I guess his astute colleagues found enough sciencey science for it.
-Refuses to allow fans in the stands, superseding conference rules over state mandates.
-Refuses to allow teams to reschedule cancelled games.
-Breaks his own rules to get tOSU in the conference title game due to above point.
-Makes the B1G look like amateurs playing the title game on an Indianapolis Colts branded field.
-Not only hosed Indiana out of B1G title game, but didn't even lobby to get them in a NY6 bowl.
-Sheesh.

 

[nu2u]

The university presidents voted to cancel the season. Warren did not have a vote.

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

The university presidents voted to cancel the season. Warren did not have a vote.

He wasn't just a fly on the wall for what went down.

 

[Headcard]

Forget about going into the details of how inept this man is. Just looking at 2020 from a 10,000 foot view is enough to make you puke.

-Cancels season prematurely for reasons I won't get into.
-Refuses to allow teams to schedule outside opponents.
-Completely contradicts himself and reinstates the season. I guess his astute colleagues found enough sciencey science for it.
-Refuses to allow fans in the stands, superseding conference rules over state mandates.
-Refuses to allow teams to reschedule cancelled games.
-Breaks his own rules to get tOSU in the conference title game due to above point.
-Makes the B1G look like amateurs playing the title game on an Indianapolis Colts branded field.
-Not only hosed Indiana out of B1G title game, but didn't even lobby to get them in a NY6 bowl.
-Sheesh.

He has been the biggest joke in all of sports, but he somehow has fan boys on this board that will defend this **** show.

 

[nu2u]

He wasn't just a fly on the wall for what went down.

Warren didn't cancel the season. You said he did. He had no power to do so under the conference by-laws. He did not re-instate the season either even though that was also your claim.

 

[Redscarlet]

He was over his head handling the job.Have a feeling that the one of the only reasons he landed the job was because he was African American....

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

LOL no we needed a preseason, midseason, and postseason review of it! And I hope we do a "look back" before the start of '21 too.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

He has been the biggest joke in all of sports, but he somehow has fan boys on this board that will defend this **** show.

I haven't read to many posts supporting the guy...maybe I missed em....I think he's inept as they come and got the job for a reason that has nothing to do with his ability (obviously)....but he is the boss and as long as that holds true, I find it best to do what the boss says and do it with a smile.

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

Warren didn't cancel the season. You said he did. He had no power to do so under the conference by-laws. He did not re-instate the season either even though that was also your claim.

If Delaney was still commish, no delay to the season would've happened, is my belief. Therefore Warren being the new commish directly impacted the decision the B1G made. Just using my common sense.

 

[Headcard]

I haven't read to many posts supporting the guy...maybe I missed em....I think he's inept as they come and got the job for a reason that has nothing to do with his ability (obviously)....but he is the boss and as long as that holds true, I find it best to do what the boss says and do it with a smile.

Except he isn’t leading and isn’t making decisions, and the few he makes are terrible. If everyone took your path, we would have had no season, OSU wouldn’t be in the playoffs and all the schools would be out tens of millions of dollars. It would be great to be untied behind a strong leader, but blindly following this incompetent fool is a receipt for disaster.

 

[nu2u]

If Delaney was still commish, no delay to the season would've happened, is my belief. Therefore Warren being the new commish directly impacted the decision the B1G made. Just using my common sense.

You can try to explain away your mistake with hypotheticals all you want but the fact of the matter is that the university presidents ended the season. That was the only way it could happen. The university presidents did not delegate their responsibility to Warren. They had a collective decision to make and each president cast their vote in accordance with the by-laws. Beyond that, you have no idea what Warren was advocating, if anything, in private.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Kevin Warren. He was a public relations disaster and damaged the image of the B1G. He deserves criticism for sure but it is not accurate or proper to impute responsibility for decisions that were not his.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

You may have read a little more into my reply than I mean to imply.......

I don't think anyone has a new or different take at this point, it's been debated to death. 2020 was just a total **** show, time to turn the page.

 

[mgbreeze]

Hey, I'm not good with memes. Could someone throw up a good one showing a guy beating a dead horse? Thanks.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Hey, I'm not good with memes. Could someone throw up a good one showing a guy beating a dead horse? Thanks.

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

You can try to explain away your mistake with hypotheticals all you want but the fact of the matter is that the university presidents ended the season. That was the only way it could happen. The university presidents did not delegate their responsibility to Warren. They had a collective decision to make and each president cast their vote in accordance with the by-laws. Beyond that, you have no idea what Warren was advocating, if anything, in private.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Kevin Warren. He was a public relations disaster and damaged the image of the B1G. He deserves criticism for sure but it is not accurate or proper to impute responsibility for decisions that were not his.

I'll say it slower for you... Kevin. Warren. Is. The. Reason. For. The. Season. Getting. Cancelled.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Forget about going into the details of how inept this man is. Just looking at 2020 from a 10,000 foot view is enough to make you puke.

-Cancels season prematurely for reasons I won't get into.
-Refuses to allow teams to schedule outside opponents.
-Completely contradicts himself and reinstates the season. I guess his astute colleagues found enough sciencey science for it.
-Refuses to allow fans in the stands, superseding conference rules over state mandates.
-Refuses to allow teams to reschedule cancelled games.
-Breaks his own rules to get tOSU in the conference title game due to above point.
-Makes the B1G look like amateurs playing the title game on an Indianapolis Colts branded field.
-Not only hosed Indiana out of B1G title game, but didn't even lobby to get them in a NY6 bowl.
-Sheesh.

Don’t forget changing the 21 day COVID rule for Ohio State as well.

 

[nu2u]

I'll say it slower for you... Kevin. Warren. Is. The. Reason. For. The. Season. Getting. Cancelled.

It would have been much easier for you to edit and correct your original post.

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

Don’t forget changing the 21 day COVID rule for Ohio State as well.

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

It would have been much easier for you to edit and correct your original post.

Firstly editing shouldn't be allowed because what is said, is said. Secondly I'm sorry you have such an issue with the fact it doesn't explicitly say he 'caused the cancellation', instead of he 'cancelled it', which in reality makes no difference because those with common sense can infer...
Kevin. Warren. Is. The. Reason. For. The. Season. Getting. Cancelled.

 

[steinek11]

If Delaney was still commish, no delay to the season would've happened, is my belief. Therefore Warren being the new commish directly impacted the decision the B1G made. Just using my common sense.

Delaney had some backbone. We would have had a much better outcome with him. Warren is a yes man

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

I called over to OP's house, his mom said he wasn't home.

 

[nu2u]

Firstly editing shouldn't be allowed because what is said, is said. Secondly I'm sorry you have such an issue with the fact it doesn't explicitly say he 'caused the cancellation', instead of he 'cancelled it', which in reality makes no difference because those with common sense can infer...
Kevin. Warren. Is. The. Reason. For. The. Season. Getting. Cancelled.

Now its an inference - LOL. Well your declaration of "common sense" is nothing more than your personal opinion -- an opinion apparently based on a supposition (or "belief" as you stated in your initial reply, post #10) which itself is conjecture.

You can believe what you want to believe. Have a good day.

 

[mgbreeze]

Firstly editing shouldn't be allowed because what is said, is said. Secondly I'm sorry you have such an issue with the fact it doesn't explicitly say he 'caused the cancellation', instead of he 'cancelled it', which in reality makes no difference because those with common sense can infer...
Kevin. Warren. Is. The. Reason. For. The. Season. Getting. Cancelled.

Okay. Thanks. For. Pointing. This. Out. We. Didn't. Know. All. Of. This. So. It. Will. Come. In. Handy. To. Have. This. New. Information. I. Hadn't. Heard. That. Kevin. Warren. Is. A. POS.

 

[HuskersVsTheWorld]

Now its an inference - LOL. Well that qualifies as an personal opinion -- an opinion apparently based on a supposition (or "belief" as you stated in your initial reply, post #10) which itself is conjecture.

You can believe what you want to believe. Have a good day.

Thank you for allowing me to have an opinion. Have a Merry Christmas, and I hope your severe case of sophomania will pass soon!

 

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

Forget about going into the details of how inept this man is. Just looking at 2020 from a 10,000 foot view is enough to make you puke.

-Cancels season prematurely for reasons I won't get into.
-Refuses to allow teams to schedule outside opponents.
-Completely contradicts himself and reinstates the season. I guess his astute colleagues found enough sciencey science for it.
-Refuses to allow fans in the stands, superseding conference rules over state mandates.
-Refuses to allow teams to reschedule cancelled games.
-Breaks his own rules to get tOSU in the conference title game due to above point.
-Makes the B1G look like amateurs playing the title game on an Indianapolis Colts branded field.
-Not only hosed Indiana out of B1G title game, but didn't even lobby to get them in a NY6 bowl.
-Sheesh.

I’ll Add...
-is certainly no Jim Delaney
-isn’t the commissioner. Slick Barry is

 

[Reditus]

I continue to be thankful for the leadership at Nebraska. This tweet has been posted many times but it's timeless.



I think the B1G conference leadership ended up looking like a bunch of clowns. If I was Indiana I would be pissed as rules or rules. Oh wait...

 

[rrthusker]

Forget about going into the details of how inept this man is. Just looking at 2020 from a 10,000 foot view is enough to make you puke.

-Cancels season prematurely for reasons I won't get into.
-Refuses to allow teams to schedule outside opponents.
-Completely contradicts himself and reinstates the season. I guess his astute colleagues found enough sciencey science for it.
-Refuses to allow fans in the stands, superseding conference rules over state mandates.
-Refuses to allow teams to reschedule cancelled games.
-Breaks his own rules to get tOSU in the conference title game due to above point.
-Makes the B1G look like amateurs playing the title game on an Indianapolis Colts branded field.
-Not only hosed Indiana out of B1G title game, but didn't even lobby to get them in a NY6 bowl.
-Sheesh.

I believe the title you are looking for is Big Ten Dictator. Guy is an egomaniac control freak.

 

[tro80]

Dang, I thought this thread was going to be a re-hash of an old police comedy-drama from the 90s.

 

[dinglefritz]

He was over his head handling the job.Have a feeling that the one of the only reasons he landed the job was because he was African American....

I don't think there is any doubt that affirmative action played a role in his hiring. That said, he has a fairly impressive resume. I think a big factor in his landing this job was his relationship with the former Obama appointed U.S. Attorney in the Twin Cities who is now an attorney for the B1G.

My biggest problem with the hire was that he doesn't have the kind of relevant experience in college sports administration I would like to have seen for a league commissioner. For heaven's sake, the ACC hired Northwestern's AD to be their commissioner. THAT is the way you do things. You don't go hire somebody with no proven expertise in the job that you need them to do.

 

[dinglefritz]

Delaney had some backbone. We would have had a much better outcome with him. Warren is a yes man

I liked your post. On the OTHER hand, I actually believe that Warren purposely sabotaged the season. You must remember way back in March he said, "through my position I am fundamentally going to affect this election". I think politics played a huge role in his position. It was NOT coincidence that the DAY AFTER THE SEASON WAS POSTPONED, Biden et al were running ads blaming Trump in Big Ten states. I believe it was a coordinated effort to make as much hay out of COVID as they could. I also find it interesting that we've had multiple black men killed by cops since the election and there hasn't been a single riot. Not one. None of the things that have gone on in this country over the past few months have been spontaneous.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

You can try to explain away your mistake with hypotheticals all you want but the fact of the matter is that the university presidents ended the season. That was the only way it could happen. The university presidents did not delegate their responsibility to Warren. They had a collective decision to make and each president cast their vote in accordance with the by-laws. Beyond that, you have no idea what Warren was advocating, if anything, in private.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Kevin Warren. He was a public relations disaster and damaged the image of the B1G. He deserves criticism for sure but it is not accurate or proper to impute responsibility for decisions that were not his.

it was widely reported at the time that warren was not a silent observer during the 'vote', coercing those unsure into 'voting' no to a season.

if you're going to tell people to get their facts straight, maybe have your own facts straight.

 

[tpmcg_rivals137159]

I continue to be thankful for the leadership at Nebraska. This tweet has been posted many times but it's timeless.



I think the B1G conference leadership ended up looking like a bunch of clowns. If I was Indiana I would be pissed as rules or rules. Oh wait...

how did any of our responses to their decisions get translated as 'fock you, b1g!'..?
they knew everyone with an ounce of brains knew they were playing games.
they just needed a scapegoat and a diversion.
in steps N...
think for a minute how bad it would have looked if the b1g was playing a season after the championship was decided.
what a gift to the other p5 conferences...?!
not only anticlimatic, but silly still in the middle of covid AND flu season.

 

[nu2u]

it was widely reported at the time that warren was not a silent observer during the 'vote', coercing those unsure into 'voting' no to a season.

if you're going to tell people to get their facts straight, maybe have your own facts straight.

Warren did not vote. Whether Warren was a silent observer or not is not ultimately material because the decision was not his.. The presidents of Big Ten universities were getting advice from all sorts of professionals -- primarily the medical committee and legal counsel -- but also university staff and employees, local businesses, media organizations, and politicians at all levels of government in addition to the alumni.

Presidents of corporations make the big decisions - that's where the buck stops. The CEO of Apple or Verizon e.g. make the big decisions (just like the presidents of universities) and they take responsibility for their decisions. When their decisions are implemented, capable CEOs and university presidents do not assign blame for their decisions on advice from the CFO or COO, or some other subordinate. They step up and own their decisions. Good CEOs do not look for scapegoats.

You won't convince me that Kevin Warren had more influence than the B10 medical and science committee and/or the university and B10 legal counsel.

 

[The_Glove_Man_rivals300278]

Correction: Donald Trump reinstated the season.

Forget about going into the details of how inept this man is. Just looking at 2020 from a 10,000 foot view is enough to make you puke.

-Cancels season prematurely for reasons I won't get into.
-Refuses to allow teams to schedule outside opponents.
-Completely contradicts himself and reinstates the season. I guess his astute colleagues found enough sciencey science for it.
-Refuses to allow fans in the stands, superseding conference rules over state mandates.
-Refuses to allow teams to reschedule cancelled games.
-Breaks his own rules to get tOSU in the conference title game due to above point.
-Makes the B1G look like amateurs playing the title game on an Indianapolis Colts branded field.
-Not only hosed Indiana out of B1G title game, but didn't even lobby to get them in a NY6 bowl.
-Sheesh.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

Warren did not vote. Whether Warren was a silent observer or not is not ultimately material because the decision was not his.. The presidents of Big Ten universities were getting advice from all sorts of professionals -- primarily the medical committee and legal counsel -- but also university staff and employees, local businesses, media organizations, and politicians at all levels of government in addition to the alumni.

Presidents of corporations make the big decisions - that's where the buck stops. The CEO of Apple or Verizon e.g. make the big decisions (just like the presidents of universities) and they take responsibility for their decisions. When their decisions are implemented, capable CEOs and university presidents do not assign blame for their decisions on advice from the CFO or COO, or some other subordinate. They step up and own their decisions. Good CEOs do not look for scapegoats.

You won't convince me that Kevin Warren had more influence than the B10 medical and science committee and/or the university and B10 legal counsel.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

he, according to every media outlet under the sun and multiple ADs, flexed his muscle to ensure the vote would go the way he wanted it to.

please feel free to spend 30 seconds to inform yourself instead of continuously sprinting blindfolded in the direction you've chosen.

 

[nu2u]

I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

he, according to every media outlet under the sun and multiple ADs, flexed his muscle to ensure the vote would go the way he wanted it to.

please feel free to spend 30 seconds to inform yourself instead of continuously sprinting blindfolded in the direction you've chosen.

You give Warren way too much credit by implying that he single-handedly bullied or somehow hypnotically swayed the college presidents to his POV above others. "flexed his muscle" LOL, good god.

I don't view these presidents as ***** pushovers, as you do, yielding to Kevin Warren's persuasion and holding his opinion above the scientific experts and epidemiologists or the lawyers advising them of their liability exposure. Sorry, your view is naive.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

You give Warren way too much credit by implying that he single-handedly bullied or somehow hypnotically swayed the college presidents to his POV above others. "flexed his muscle" LOL, good god.

I don't view these presidents as ***** pushovers, as you do, yielding to Kevin Warren's persuasion and holding his opinion above the scientific experts and epidemiologists or the lawyers advising them of their liability exposure. Sorry, your view is naive.

I am not implying anything. this is not my opinion. again, THIS WAS WIDELY REPORTED AND NOT DISPUTED.

you're literally arguing with what actually happened. talk about naive.

 

[nu2u]

I am not implying anything. this is not my opinion. again, THIS WAS WIDELY REPORTED AND NOT DISPUTED.

you're literally arguing with what actually happened. talk about naive.

LOL. Kevin Warren is the most powerful man in the world. If he says something will happen, it will happen. All he has to do is flex his muscle.