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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 129579258" data-attributes="member: 1428007"><p>What do you mean when you say I was "wrong about expansion"?</p><p></p><p>I haven't ever said something specific would happen with expansion, I discussed what the conference was considering and why they were considering it . I agreed with what they were trying to accomplish because those steps would guarantee the long term viability of the conference.</p><p></p><p>Now UT has blocked all of that- but wants the money from a championship game so pushed the members to give them that even though many of the coaches have not wanted that.</p><p></p><p>You claim that will be a benefit. It might be better statistically according to the analysts than remaining at ten without one- because the other conferences have one. BUT, that doesn't address if the team that won the first matchup loses the second time around.</p><p></p><p>In the five years the BIg 12 had rematches previously, 40% of the time the team beaten in the first matchup won the CCG rematch.</p><p></p><p>40% of the time between 2017 and 2025 will mean that more than 3 of those 8 years the BIG 12 is left out.</p><p></p><p>The problem with people like you is you can't think past today.</p><p></p><p>Expansion for "expansions sake" never had anything to do with why the BIG 12 wanted to expand. That was what those opposed to expansion tried to make it into in order to keep the conference from acting in its best interests.</p><p>And unfortunately they have succeeded. Expansion was about bringing BIG 12 revenues up to par with their peers long term, and eliminating any competitive disadvantages, as well as setting up a conference network and setting the conference up to have a larger footprint , more inventory and more viewers for the next contract negotiations.</p><p></p><p>3-5 years from now the BIg 12 will be 3-5 years further behind the Big Ten and SEC in revenues which will make keeping up with them impossible except for- you guessed it, Texas. The BIg 12 will have three- five more years of mediocre viewing and three- five more years of steady negative press. They will have been left out of the playoffs more.</p><p></p><p>If the BIG 12, after realizing yet again they made a colossal mistake-looks at schools many have been duped into thinking are " worthless commuter schools" 3-5 years down the line? Those schools are going to be 3-5 years removed from revenues, good tv deals, everything that would have allowed them to remain competitive. If they aren't attractive now, what will they be when they haven't been on tv or had competitive revenues or recruiting for another five years?</p><p></p><p>You as usual bring up the ACC pipe dream that isn't ever going to happen. The ACC isn't going anywhere and in fact WVU fans better hope it doesn't because it's going to have one of the two possible slots left for WVU to remain relevant once UT and OU walk Out with a couple of others. The ACC once again has a grant of rights that doesn't end until 2027. None of their schools are jumping out of that binding legal agreement or coming up with the 50 million buyout costs either.</p><p></p><p>Doesn't matter anyway because the BIg 12s deal is up in 2025- 2 yrs before the ACC can be even considered for poaching. The Big Tens deal renews in 2023 and the Pacs in 2024- perfect timing for a double raid on the BIG 12 to ensure the Big and PAC continue their partnership and competition is eliminated. The BIg 12 will not get to that next contract because OU and UT won't be a part.</p><p></p><p>If you think UT or OU are ok with being 3rd in revenue to anyone you need to wake yourself up because you are dreaming.</p><p></p><p>The Big 12 like you is short sighted. Texas is myopic. The other schools are surely realizing that things may not be rosy down the road, but as usual they are being strung along with "oh we are happy to be third" and " we may still consider expansion" so that they themselves don't mess up the plan of the powers that be by being proactive for themselves. They'll all be searching for a new home relatively soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 129579258, member: 1428007"] What do you mean when you say I was "wrong about expansion"? I haven't ever said something specific would happen with expansion, I discussed what the conference was considering and why they were considering it . I agreed with what they were trying to accomplish because those steps would guarantee the long term viability of the conference. Now UT has blocked all of that- but wants the money from a championship game so pushed the members to give them that even though many of the coaches have not wanted that. You claim that will be a benefit. It might be better statistically according to the analysts than remaining at ten without one- because the other conferences have one. BUT, that doesn't address if the team that won the first matchup loses the second time around. In the five years the BIg 12 had rematches previously, 40% of the time the team beaten in the first matchup won the CCG rematch. 40% of the time between 2017 and 2025 will mean that more than 3 of those 8 years the BIG 12 is left out. The problem with people like you is you can't think past today. Expansion for "expansions sake" never had anything to do with why the BIG 12 wanted to expand. That was what those opposed to expansion tried to make it into in order to keep the conference from acting in its best interests. And unfortunately they have succeeded. Expansion was about bringing BIG 12 revenues up to par with their peers long term, and eliminating any competitive disadvantages, as well as setting up a conference network and setting the conference up to have a larger footprint , more inventory and more viewers for the next contract negotiations. 3-5 years from now the BIg 12 will be 3-5 years further behind the Big Ten and SEC in revenues which will make keeping up with them impossible except for- you guessed it, Texas. The BIg 12 will have three- five more years of mediocre viewing and three- five more years of steady negative press. They will have been left out of the playoffs more. If the BIG 12, after realizing yet again they made a colossal mistake-looks at schools many have been duped into thinking are " worthless commuter schools" 3-5 years down the line? Those schools are going to be 3-5 years removed from revenues, good tv deals, everything that would have allowed them to remain competitive. If they aren't attractive now, what will they be when they haven't been on tv or had competitive revenues or recruiting for another five years? You as usual bring up the ACC pipe dream that isn't ever going to happen. The ACC isn't going anywhere and in fact WVU fans better hope it doesn't because it's going to have one of the two possible slots left for WVU to remain relevant once UT and OU walk Out with a couple of others. The ACC once again has a grant of rights that doesn't end until 2027. None of their schools are jumping out of that binding legal agreement or coming up with the 50 million buyout costs either. Doesn't matter anyway because the BIg 12s deal is up in 2025- 2 yrs before the ACC can be even considered for poaching. The Big Tens deal renews in 2023 and the Pacs in 2024- perfect timing for a double raid on the BIG 12 to ensure the Big and PAC continue their partnership and competition is eliminated. The BIg 12 will not get to that next contract because OU and UT won't be a part. If you think UT or OU are ok with being 3rd in revenue to anyone you need to wake yourself up because you are dreaming. The Big 12 like you is short sighted. Texas is myopic. The other schools are surely realizing that things may not be rosy down the road, but as usual they are being strung along with "oh we are happy to be third" and " we may still consider expansion" so that they themselves don't mess up the plan of the powers that be by being proactive for themselves. They'll all be searching for a new home relatively soon. [/QUOTE]
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