That Dak TD was golden

notoriousD_O_G

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His passer rating since not having a go to receiver that is Cole Freaking Beasley is through the roof. It’s amazing how having an actual NFL caliber receiver on your roster helps that out. Redo your numbers for when they added Amari Cooper.

Dak was a great QB at State. He's a good guy and I hope he has a successful career. Everything he has/ will get he has earned by being a good person with a good work ethic.

HOWEVER

The lengths that some of our fans will go to to White Knight for him is ridiculous.
 
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I’m not trying to white knight him. I would simply prefer our fans not say dumb, unfounded crap about him. You can think he’s not a hall of fame qb without saying things like “his team carried him to the playoffs”.
 

DancingRabbit

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The quote you referenced is not ridiculous. Maybe some are.

Dak was a great QB at State. He's a good guy and I hope he has a successful career. Everything he has/ will get he has earned by being a good person with a good work ethic.

HOWEVER

The lengths that some of our fans will go to to White Knight for him is ridiculous.

There's a lot of anti-Dak stuff that is ridiculous too. I've been a Cowboys fan for 40 years so I knew it was going to be this way with Dak. But Dak is where he wants to be and Jerry likes Dak. It will always be a circus.

What's rich is all the OM media becoming disgruntled Cowboys fans or NFL QB experts.
 

Fogdog

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Aikman was dogshit at Dak’s age. And frankly he still is. He was surrounded by hall of famers. I wish Dak would get traded. cowboys fans deserve Quincy Carter and the like.

^^^^. This!!!! He WAS dogshit his first three years. Wouldn’t know it to hear him now.

I’ll take Romo as a commentator over Aikman. Romo’s far more positive and entertaining.
 

Seinfeld

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I'm in no way trying to white knight him. I recognize that he has a combination of things he needs to improve upon and downright faults as most 25 year old QBs would. He absolutely holds on to the ball too long at times, and he occasionally misses throws that a starting NFL QB should not miss. I understand that he's not Patrick Mahomes.

The thing is, though, that during the NFL season I sit down with my wife to watch somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-15 hours of NFL football every weekend, and I can safely say that there is no other QB in the league that gets absolutely picked apart during live broadcasts like Dak. I get that he makes mistakes, but I've never seen guys make a concerted effort to overlook a guy's strengths so that they can constantly harp on his weaknesses. I swear it seems like if Jerry Rice was playing today, Aikman would spend the entire broadcast talking about how he only runs a 4.6

Last night, I listened to two guys gush over Patrick Mahomes for 3 hours, constantly talking about the unbelievable passes he was making or his ability to escape pressure. Mahomes finished with a 103 QBR last night. Dak finished with a 107 against the Bucs. In other words, did Dak miss some throws or take a sack he shouldn't have taken? Sure... but he also completed 80% of his passes while racking up yet another win. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall hearing Troy say much about that or Dak's zero turnovers. Weird...
 

msstate7

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I'm in no way trying to white knight him. I recognize that he has a combination of things he needs to improve upon and downright faults as most 25 year old QBs would. He absolutely holds on to the ball too long at times, and he occasionally misses throws that a starting NFL QB should not miss. I understand that he's not Patrick Mahomes.

The thing is, though, that during the NFL season I sit down with my wife to watch somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-15 hours of NFL football every weekend, and I can safely say that there is no other QB in the league that gets absolutely picked apart during live broadcasts like Dak. I get that he makes mistakes, but I've never seen guys make a concerted effort to overlook a guy's strengths so that they can constantly harp on his weaknesses. I swear it seems like if Jerry Rice was playing today, Aikman would spend the entire broadcast talking about how he only runs a 4.6

Last night, I listened to two guys gush over Patrick Mahomes for 3 hours, constantly talking about the unbelievable passes he was making or his ability to escape pressure. Mahomes finished with a 103 QBR last night. Dak finished with a 107 against the Bucs. In other words, did Dak miss some throws or take a sack he shouldn't have taken? Sure... but he also completed 80% of his passes while racking up yet another win. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall hearing Troy say much about that or Dak's zero turnovers. Weird...

Mahomes is 1st in QBR and 2nd in passer rating. He and brees are 1-2. Cherry picking one game where Mahomes is on the road at a playoff team and dak is at home vs one of the worst defenses in the nfl is pretty weak
 

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Chicago won their division, amd will likely finish 12-4. Trubisky has been really good so far.
 

maroonmania

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Mahomes is 1st in QBR and 2nd in passer rating. He and brees are 1-2. Cherry picking one game where Mahomes is on the road at a playoff team and dak is at home vs one of the worst defenses in the nfl is pretty weak

Geez man, he was picking apart just the broadcast of ONE game, not Mahomes' entire season so who gives a crap what his rating has been over the year. Shouldn't affect the broadcast of last night's game. QBR is fine as a tool but doesn't take into account that Dak started the year with a bad WR corps and an OL that didn't and still doesn't protect very well. As someone posted, if you look at QBR over the last 7 games WITH Cooper, Dak jumps to around 10th in the league. Dak has flaws, nobody is denying that, but he is and has always been a winner. And he is winning now without a lot of weapons that some other teams have around their QB. He does tend to be too cautious when in the pocket but the positive of that is he doesn't throw many INTs. Dallas has chosen to invest more on defense so its only natural that they will need a strong defensive performance to advance in the playoffs.
 

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Chicago won their division, amd will likely finish 12-4. Trubisky has been really good so far.

Trubisky’s QB rating is 0.4 higher than Dak’s while getting to throw to Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, Anthony Miller, etc. while Dak has gotten a half season of Amari Cooper and the rest of the time throwing to scrubs who would struggle to start at Appalachian State. I’m taking Dak over Trubisky every day. And speaking of defenses that have gotten their teams to the playoffs, look no further than Chicago.
 

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QB 1 - 66.4 completion %, 235 yds/gm, 27 TDs, 12 INTs, 96 QBR

QB 2 - 68.3 completion %, 233 yds/gm, 24 TDs, 8 INTs, 95 QBR

I'll let you guess as to which one is Trubisky and which one is Dak, but if Mitch has been really good so far, then so has Dak. This is not directed at you, but it's amazing how good a fanbase's perception can be of a QB when he's not constantly being crapped on for his imperfections
 

msstate7

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QB 1 - 66.4 completion %, 235 yds/gm, 27 TDs, 12 INTs, 96 QBR

QB 2 - 68.3 completion %, 233 yds/gm, 24 TDs, 8 INTs, 95 QBR

I'll let you guess as to which one is Trubisky and which one is Dak, but if Mitch has been really good so far, then so has Dak. This is not directed at you, but it's amazing how good a fanbase's perception can be of a QB when he's not constantly being crapped on for his imperfections

Well Trubisky played 2 less games and threw 74 less passes, but still threw more TD passes. The difference in passer rating is small though. I don't think either are that good as passing QBs. The difference between the 2 comes in QBR where rushing is considered. Trubisky rushes for a 100 more yards in 2 less games. QBR loves Trubisky (4th in nfl) while is doesn't like dak at all (21st in nfl).
 

msstate7

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Trubisky’s QB rating is 0.4 higher than Dak’s while getting to throw to Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, Anthony Miller, etc. while Dak has gotten a half season of Amari Cooper and the rest of the time throwing to scrubs who would struggle to start at Appalachian State. I’m taking Dak over Trubisky every day. And speaking of defenses that have gotten their teams to the playoffs, look no further than Chicago.

Chicago is 9th in scoring offense; Dallas is 24th. If tenn beats Indy Sunday, they along with Dallas will be the only playoff teams below 16th in scoring offense. Tenn is worse than Dallas
 

msstate7

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There's a thread on saints' board now complaining about romo being too critical of Brees. Not sure why everyone gets so upset about tv analysts just doing their job.
 
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