The last couple of weekends, they've been playing pro tennis exhibitions in eastern Europe. Full blown fans, line judges, ball kids, and everything. No social distancing at all. Now, predictably, 4 players have tested positive in 24 hours. Dumb-asses.
Tennis coronovirus update
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So what? These are healthy individuals that statistics show will have very little trouble with the virus. Fans that are elderly or immune compromised should stay at home. Unless the plan is to lock everything down until there is a vaccine (which would destroy the economy), then getting back to normal is the only option. Any other plan is just ensuring this thin lingers for months or years.
The plan was never to shut things down indefinitely but to slow things down to be sure the ICU's weren't overrun. We have done that.
I'm not sure why this is so confusing, but just because a majority of the population will be asymptomatic and relatively safe, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't NOT try to pass the virus on. When you're sick with the flu.... you don't willingly go into public, right? We shouldn't do that with COVID-19 either, because there is a segment of our population that is highly vulnerable to it.
I mean, we all want to get back to normalcy as soon as possible right? Social distancing and wearing masks accelerate the time frame of "back to normal". Why in the world wouldn't everyone want to chip in and get that train "to normal" moving? I don't get it.
The tennis players should absolutely be playing tournament. But they should not be partying and hanging out for the next few months until the vaccine is closer and/or ready. This **** is not complicated at all.
Social distancing and masks prolong the time it takes to get back to normal. When the countries you are dogging are truly back to normal and the US is still on partial lockdown you will agree.
So we have all that, and only 4 people got the rona? I'd say we are the bigger dumbasses for keeping stuff shut down.
ETA: I thought the shut down part was about the hospitals anyway? That's no longer a problem (at all). There's no logical reason for a shut down right now. I'm ok with masks OR social distancing. But not both.
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As long as the virus is out there at all, it will spread. South Korea which has been the model for some due to low total cases, and has been very diligent as far as mask wear and other measures, has tried to get back to “somewhat” normal and they continue to have spikes and have to reimpose closures and restrictions.
It seems like there is some sort of thought that if we just get to a X number of active cases , that we can go back to normal. That might be true, although I have not seen anyone provide that number, only more generic statements without data.
It seems like there is some sort of thought that if we just get to a X number of active cases , that we can go back to normal. That might be true, although I have not seen anyone provide that number, only more generic statements without data.
There are indications starting to surface that even asymptomatic individuals can suffer some degree of organ damage, lung damage is the one most often mentioned. That's just what athletes need right? The truth is we don't know anything yet about the long term effects of COVID on the body. Saying if you are healthy you have nothing to worry about if you get it is almost exactly the same thing as saying there is no need to do clinical trials on a drug because you know it's safe.
Nobody actually knows. People are assuming that the virus imparts some sort of at least temporary immunity after you have it. That is logical because it would be almost absolutely fatal if it wasn't true. What we don't know, and have no way OF knowing yet, is how long it lasts. China has had the longest experience with it. When they have a new outbreak their response is draconian. You can read into that what you want to.
As we've seen over the last week, cases in the US have reverted course. I get it... a lot of these newer cases are younger people who aren't high risk. But that doesn't mean these younger people aren't coming into contact with the vulnerable population. But as long as cases continue to rise, our local and state governments will continue to impose restrictions on what businesses can and can't do. In Houston, TX where I live... there is a mandatory mask ordinance that went into affect today and comes with a fine to businesses who don't enforce it upon their patrons (likely won't be enforced strictly).
But the point, is that our government wants to see case levels and hospitalizations at low levels in order to allow the general public to behave normally. And part of keeping those cases low and hospitalizations low is to not spread the virus. And things like wearing masks and social distancing help prevent the spread of the virus.
But the point, is that our government wants to see case levels and hospitalizations at low levels in order to allow the general public to behave normally. And part of keeping those cases low and hospitalizations low is to not spread the virus. And things like wearing masks and social distancing help prevent the spread of the virus.
I am not sure why we don't hear more about viral loads. I think Drebin pointed me in this direction a few months ago when I made a comment about different strains of Rona causing issues in NYC.
Maybe someone else can chime in with more information, but from what I have read I think of the viral load like radiation. The less the better. If you have a 100 Rona proteins in your body trying to replicate, it's a lot better than 1 million. Your immune system will have a much easier time fighting off a light viral load vs a heavier load. This may have a lot to do with the asymptomatic vs the people who get much sicker (regardless of health.)
One of the reasons we don't have much of a flu or cold problem in the summer is because the viral load of people who do get is so much smaller due to the warm weather and humidity. This includes mucus membranes that are intact vs dry cracked mucus membranes in the cold/dry winter.
So with this said... A nice light viral load in the summer could be a good thing for many people. Help build some sort of immunity for the winter. One way to help insure this is by wearing a surgical mask or cloth mask. They may not keep you from completely getting infected, but by all accounts it looks like they block around 75% of aerosols. Which could mean you might catch a much lower dose.
Maybe someone else can chime in with more information, but from what I have read I think of the viral load like radiation. The less the better. If you have a 100 Rona proteins in your body trying to replicate, it's a lot better than 1 million. Your immune system will have a much easier time fighting off a light viral load vs a heavier load. This may have a lot to do with the asymptomatic vs the people who get much sicker (regardless of health.)
One of the reasons we don't have much of a flu or cold problem in the summer is because the viral load of people who do get is so much smaller due to the warm weather and humidity. This includes mucus membranes that are intact vs dry cracked mucus membranes in the cold/dry winter.
So with this said... A nice light viral load in the summer could be a good thing for many people. Help build some sort of immunity for the winter. One way to help insure this is by wearing a surgical mask or cloth mask. They may not keep you from completely getting infected, but by all accounts it looks like they block around 75% of aerosols. Which could mean you might catch a much lower dose.
Have we done that? Arizona lifted its stay-at-home order just over a month ago and counties and municipalities were not allowed to impose any kind of restrictions. Over 80% of the state's ICUs and respirators are currently occupied by Covid 19 patients and both numbers are still going up. There is every reason to believe that opening everything back up fully without masks and social distancing will lead to the same result in every state in the country. Bear in mind that Arizona has exactly the right climate to kill the spread if hot, dry weather is going to do it, and it is not happening. https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...ospital-metrics-hit-record-levels/3234845001/ And this bs about telling everybody who is at heightened risk to just stay home so you can go to a football game without wearing a mask is outrageously selfish. There are a lot of folks over 65 and an overwhelming majority of the people under 65 with underlying conditions who have to go to work, to the grocery store, to the doctor's office, have school-aged children and/or younger adults living in their homes, etc.
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