Syracuse sanctions from B1G perspective

[Sbbesq]

Chiming in from Wisconsin ... Although Rutgers added very little, athletically, to the Big Ten this year, they do have a huge upside for a number of reasons ... That being said ... It wasn't too long ago that all you heard were ACC fans crowing about their coup in landing Syracuse - BB juggernaut, securing the NY state media market for the ACC, and other such hyperbole ... If these sanctions force the end of the Boehiem era and places the mark of Cain on this program, BB-wise ... The ACC may have just added a corpse to their league ... heck ... actually worse than a corpse since the ACC has to "feed" this corpse (Syracuse being just another mouth to feed from the ACC financial pie) ... Delany > Swofford on this conference addition (Rutgers > Syracuse)

This post was edited on 3/6 2:01 PM by Sbbesq

 

[Caliknight]

Southern Swashbuckler said Syracuse University fit in perfectly with the acc.

Given what we know about their stalwart schools, this news cements those statements. Cheating is how it gets done in that conference apparently.

UNC/Syracuse/Miami...the trifecta of all that is wrong in college sports.

 

[knightfan7]

Syracuse, Miami, UNC, and the Winston/FSU stuff. There's a reason ACC stands for All Criminal Conference.

By the way, the AVERAGE February temperature in Syracuse was 9 degrees. Not the average low, but the average for the day. As bad as it is here that's just horrid.

 

[djrc89]

I think they'll be back. They are still sadly a storied program. Cheating pays

 

[rutcor]

Originally posted by djrc89:
I think they'll be back. They are still sadly a storied program. Cheating pays

You think they'll be back in hoops or in football?

I can see hoops. Football, I don't see it anytime soon.

 

[vkj91]

You could have saved yourself time simply by understanding the ACC fans were ignorant. Anybody who though Cuse was delivering the NYC market doesn't understand TV or geography.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

They got invited to the ACC over Rutgers because of hoops. In case you couldn't tell, we stink at MBB. Worst than Penn State and Northwestern..

In this day and age however it is very small minded and backwards to add any school for just hoops when Football and TV drives the bus.

Rutgers fits in much, much better with the Big Ten in every way possible.

 

[letterhead6]

The only difference (aside from cheating) between Cuse and RU is a great BB coach. BB players could care less about Cuse other than it's got a good BB program. As I have said on many other posts, we need to spend $3+M on a top flight coach and the rest will follow.

 

[RutgersROB]

Rutgers added very little this year?

I think week 1 Rutgers gave the B1G a much needed out of conference win against power 5 and conference rival pac 12...

Also had a bowl win against a power 5...

And our ****** basketball team added something to Wisconsin's LOSS column

Also since Rutgers is in the B1G now any perspective we have from now on will be labeled as "from a B1G perspective"


Btw thanks for adding so much to that B1G 10 championship football game
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[ScarletKnightRider]

Originally posted by vkj91:
You could have saved yourself time simply by understanding the ACC fans were ignorant. Anybody who though Cuse was delivering the NYC market doesn't understand TV or geography.

You'd be surprised how people outside of the Northeast think that Syracuse is located in NYC or something. I remember when we accepted the B1G invite, I came across some Nebraska fans who were wondering why they never considered Syracuse instead in order to get the NY market. When I explained that Syracuse was 5 hours from NYC and was practically in Canada they were shocked and had no idea. It was quite a good laugh

 

[RU MAN]

Originally posted by RutgersROB:
Rutgers added very little this year?

I think week 1 Rutgers gave the B1G a much needed out of conference win against power 5 and conference rival pac 12...

Also had a bowl win against a power 5...

And our ****** basketball team added something to Wisconsin's LOSS column

Also since Rutgers is in the B1G now any perspective we have from now on will be labeled as "from a B1G perspective"


Btw thanks for adding so much to that B1G 10 championship football game
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Bob I was thinking the same thing. Thanks OP for the backhanded compliment.

 

[RutgersSam]

Originally posted by Sbbesq:
Chiming in from Wisconsin ... Although Rutgers added very little, athletically, to the Big Ten this year, they do have a huge upside for a number of reasons ... That being said ... It wasn't too long ago that all you heard were ACC fans crowing about their coup in landing Syracuse - BB juggernaut, securing the NY state media market for the ACC, and other such hyperbole ... If these sanctions force the end of the Boehiem era and places the mark of Cain on this program, BB-wise ... The ACC may have just added a corpse to their league ... heck ... actually worse than a corpse since the ACC has to "feed" this corpse (Syracuse being just another mouth to feed from the ACC financial pie) ... Delany > Swofford on this conference addition (Rutgers > Syracuse)

This post was edited on 3/6 2:01 PM by Sbbesq

Chiming in from New Jersey. Rutgers has more potential than Wisconsin. To say that we added "very little" in just our first year is ignorant.

 

[Caliknight]

We added a ton of BTN subscribers and are undefeated in OOC play. Our women's hoops and wrestling are ranked. We brought more than a little.

 

[shields]

I think our football team did very well for the first year.

 

[Dpgru]

Here's a question for everyone - will ESPN handle this episode with the same vim and vigor that they expended skewering RU in the Mike Rice episode. Somehow I think not. They will reference it as little as they can.

 

[ScarletKnightRider]

Im calling out the OP as well. We brought more than "very little" athletically this year. More than a number of existing Big Ten schools did and a lot more than what was expected of us. What is it with you Badgers? Youse guys needa loin' howda communicate betta.

 

[anon1759798318]

Jack-***

Originally posted by Sbbesq:
Chiming in from Wisconsin ... Although Rutgers added very little, athletically, to the Big Ten this year, they do have a huge upside for a number of reasons ... That being said ... It wasn't too long ago that all you heard were ACC fans crowing about their coup in landing Syracuse - BB juggernaut, securing the NY state media market for the ACC, and other such hyperbole ... If these sanctions force the end of the Boehiem era and places the mark of Cain on this program, BB-wise ... The ACC may have just added a corpse to their league ... heck ... actually worse than a corpse since the ACC has to "feed" this corpse (Syracuse being just another mouth to feed from the ACC financial pie) ... Delany > Swofford on this conference addition (Rutgers > Syracuse)

This post was edited on 3/6 2:01 PM by Sbbesq

 

[Knight_Light]

Originally posted by Sbbesq:
Chiming in from Wisconsin ... Although Rutgers added very little, athletically, to the Big Ten this year, they do have a huge upside for a number of reasons ... That being said ... It wasn't too long ago that all you heard were ACC fans crowing about their coup in landing Syracuse - BB juggernaut, securing the NY state media market for the ACC, and other such hyperbole ... If these sanctions force the end of the Boehiem era and places the mark of Cain on this program, BB-wise ... The ACC may have just added a corpse to their league ... heck ... actually worse than a corpse since the ACC has to "feed" this corpse (Syracuse being just another mouth to feed from the ACC financial pie) ... Delany > Swofford on this conference addition (Rutgers > Syracuse)

This post was edited on 3/6 2:01 PM by Sbbesq

The saving grace for the ACC and even CUSE are:

1) No future post-season sanctions (NCAA allowed CUSE to self-imposed post-season penalty, this year, when CUSE wasn't going to make the NCAA Tourn, plus, CUSE and their fans hate Greensboro, location of this year's ACC Tourn

2) NCAA allowed CUSE to delay NCAA scholarship sanctions to 2016-2017...meaning CUSE will most likely be a full strength with a top incoming recruiting class for 2015-2016.

3) ACC will have their tourn in Brooklyn in 2017...and Syracuse will be eligible to play in it (and probably scoop up a ton/majority of those tix with Duke and UNC).

4) Boeheim will utilize "surprise" walk-ons...just like Pitino does at Louisville...where some players in their last year (and not from well to do families) will suddenly be able to pay for a full year of room/tuition/board and give up their scholarship to an incoming recruit.

5) No TV penalties/sanctions...just like Penn State...which was the first thing Bill O'Brien preached at his first public appearance after the NCAA Sanctions were handed down ("all 12 Penn State games will continue to be carries on national tv"). Same thing for Cuse...as ESPN et al will feature them on a regular basis.

I don't expect Syracuse to fall to the bottom of the ACC in the coming years...as they will figure out ways to survive (i.e. especially with TV exposure, eligible for post-season play, Brooklyn ACC Tourn, "surprised" top players suddenly as walk-ons, etc...).

 

[Knight_Light]

Here's a good article on FoxSports on how the NCAA is still protecting "Blue Blood Icons" like Boeheim:

From article below:


The most interesting aspect of the penalty continues to be the arbitrary way the NCAA metes out justice. Boeheim leads a program that has been violating rules for more than a decade and he gets a nine-game suspension.


Another man who made a living coaching a basketball team in orange uniforms, Bruce Pearl, received a three-year show cause plus an eight-game conference suspension for lying about an off-campus BBQ. (A rule that is so insignificant, by the way, that the NCAA has since changed it to make Pearl's violation permissible for everyone.)

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/ncaa-slams-syracuse-head-coach-jim-boeheim-030615

 

[motorb54]

Hey, OP:
Quick. Name the only Big Ten football team to be 2-0
in games against out of conference Power 5 opponents.

In fact, the only other Big Ten team with two such wins was Ohio State
with their 2-1 record in these games

I'm sure the OP knows Wisconsin was 1-1.
For the first three weeks of the season the Big Ten was 1 win and TEN losses in these games.
And we all know the team with that one win wears scarlet.
The Big Ten was getting pilloried by the talking heads, especially the ESPN clowns.
How much worse would it have been if the B1G was 0-11?