Suggestions, new coaching staff

[ScarletteK80]

Not to beat a dead Knight here, but, there seems to be a lot of thoughts on who could/should be next head coach when the time comes. Nothing obviously will happen this year.
I have suggested Chelsea Newton a dozen times.
Others have there own ideas.
If we can keep it in one thread it would be easier to keep track of.
Just a thought.

 

[ScarletteK80]

https://georgiadogs.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/coaches/chelsea-newton/2959

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Someone from The Shore and/or has past recruiting success/contacts in the area
Someone who is a fairly young assistant at a Top 35 program and preferably has been a successful head coach at the Division 1 level or someone who is currently a head coach at a mid-major, but has been an assistant at a Top 35 program in the past
Someone who has a good media presence
Someone who realizes the current fan base is pathetically small for a Big Ten university and is willing to work hard to change that
Someone who will go from Sussex to Cape May counties to give Free clinics for youth players to “Grow them up Rutgers” since these are our future players and fans
Someone who will assign a full time staff member to work with the NJSIAA and high school coaches to get as many high school regular season games as possible at The RAC, as well as state playoffs and All-Star games
This is in addition to having more clinics/camps and youth tournaments in the Summer at The RAC and RWJ Barnabas Center
Although situations at home can change, we need to do a better job when we bring in out of area kids who don’t end up homesick and leaving

 

[djrc89]

I’d think Hobbs must have a pretty good list by now. He’s certainly had ample time. Scarlette do you think Chelsea’s ready. Historically this program is probably top 20 in overall wins. I’d think someone who’s succeeded already as a head coach.

 

[eso1989]

Someone from The Shore and/or has past recruiting success/contacts in the area
Someone who is a fairly young assistant at a Top 35 program and preferably has been a successful head coach at the Division 1 level or someone who is currently a head coach at a mid-major, but has been an assistant at a Top 35 program in the past
Someone who has a good media presence
Someone who realizes the current fan base is pathetically small for a Big Ten university and is willing to work hard to change that
Someone who will go from Sussex to Cape May counties to give Free clinics for youth players to “Grow them up Rutgers” since these are our future players and fans
Someone who will assign a full time staff member to work with the NJSIAA and high school coaches to get as many high school regular season games as possible at The RAC, as well as state playoffs and All-Star games
This is in addition to having more clinics/camps and youth tournaments in the Summer at The RAC and RWJ Barnabas Center
Although situations at home can change, we need to do a better job when we bring in out of area kids who don’t end up homesick and leaving

The Shore hasn’t been a major recruiting player in basketball for quite some time other than the sisters that went to Notre Dame and the kid that went to Michigan. What coaches from this area are you thinking?

I totally agree that the next coach has to have energy and ideas to re-ignite this proud program while getting butts in seats again. Clinics, podcasts, getting involved in local AAU programs etc. is part of that however they have to recruit on a national level. NJ doesn’t turn out more than a few D1 prospects a year. It’s not like other sports e.g women’s soccer and field hockey that have a huge local talent pool.

And I agree with another poster, someone that’s been a head coach is needed as this will be a major rebuild. The practice facility helps but the cupboard is otherwise bare.

Just look at NC and NC St … they are building something sustainable and exciting there after being down for years. It’s possible here with the right hire.

 

[ScarletteK80]

I’d think Hobbs must have a pretty good list by now. He’s certainly had ample time. Scarlette do you think Chelsea’s ready. Historically this program is probably top 20 in overall wins. I’d think someone who’s succeeded already as a head coach.

I think she is more than ready, but not sure she would wanna come back. She is 38, knows the system, or what's left of it. Been a college, and WNBA player, and is extremely popular with the youngins. Was just watching her, and Georgia play Alabama, I sent her a telepathic message to come back. Also, Joni Taylor will remain head coach for as long as she wants.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Not to beat a dead Knight here, but, there seems to be a lot of thoughts on who could/should be next head coach when the time comes. Nothing obviously will happen this year.
I have suggested Chelsea Newton a dozen times.
Others have there own ideas.
If we can keep it in one thread it would be easier to keep track of.
Just a thought.

Whomever YOU want and NOW.

 

[Knight Time Fan_rivals]

Someone from The Shore and/or has past recruiting success/contacts in the area
Someone who is a fairly young assistant at a Top 35 program and preferably has been a successful head coach at the Division 1 level or someone who is currently a head coach at a mid-major, but has been an assistant at a Top 35 program in the past
Someone who has a good media presence
Someone who realizes the current fan base is pathetically small for a Big Ten university and is willing to work hard to change that
Someone who will go from Sussex to Cape May counties to give Free clinics for youth players to “Grow them up Rutgers” since these are our future players and fans
Someone who will assign a full time staff member to work with the NJSIAA and high school coaches to get as many high school regular season games as possible at The RAC, as well as state playoffs and All-Star games
This is in addition to having more clinics/camps and youth tournaments in the Summer at The RAC and RWJ Barnabas Center
Although situations at home can change, we need to do a better job when we bring in out of area kids who don’t end up homesick and leaving

What @eso1989 said. Plus the WBB coaching staff and coach have zero to do with getting in-season high school games, playoffs, etc, youth tournaments etc. at the RAC. The most they can do is advise the AD that something like that might help recruiting. The mechanics of it is not in their lane. And, given the many restrictions on coaches being able to watch recruits, not necessarily productive in any case.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

The Shore hasn’t been a major recruiting player in basketball for quite some time other than the sisters that went to Notre Dame and the kid that went to Michigan. What coaches from this area are you thinking?

I totally agree that the next coach has to have energy and ideas to re-ignite this proud program while getting butts in seats again. Clinics, podcasts, getting involved in local AAU programs etc. is part of that however they have to recruit on a national level. NJ doesn’t turn out more than a few D1 prospects a year. It’s not like other sports e.g women’s soccer and field hockey that have a huge local talent pool.

And I agree with another poster, someone that’s been a head coach is needed as this will be a major rebuild. The practice facility helps but the cupboard is otherwise bare.

Just look at NC and NC St … they are building something sustainable and exciting there after being down for years. It’s possible here with the right hire.

I certainly don’t claim to be an expert on New Jersey recruiting, but three of the top rated players are from The Shore. If the new coach has never recruited Shote kids, I am willing to buy everyone on the staff maps of Monmouth and Ocean counties.

https://www.prepgirlshoops.com/new-jersey/

 

[HeavenUniv.]

What @eso1989 said. Plus the WBB coaching staff and coach have zero to do with getting in-season high school games, playoffs, etc, youth tournaments etc. at the RAC. The most they can do is advise the AD that something like that might help recruiting. The mechanics of it is not in their lane. And, given the many restrictions on coaches being able to watch recruits, not necessarily productive in any case.

We now have quite a few high school football games, regular season and state playoffs at Rutgers Stadium. At the beginning of the season, we have a couple dozen schools play over a three day weekend, The Rumble on The Raritan. We need to do this for ALL sports. Part of the new coach job requirements needs to be that they are willing to do everything needed to build a fan base because the current “crowds” of 1,417 per game are a joke.

 

[ScarletteK80]

I certainly don’t claim to be an expert on New Jersey recruiting, but three of the top rated players are from The Shore. If the new coach has never recruited Shote kids, I am willing to buy everyone on the staff maps of Monmouth and Ocean counties.

https://www.prepgirlshoops.com/new-jersey/

What 3 players that are top rated are from shore? Just curious. We have had a couple of shore ladies, Syessence Davis, and another lady I can see in my head but can't remember her name. We haven't had a lot of players from NJ/NY, period.
The Brenda (Frese) got Diamond Miller from Somerset, and Faith Masonius from Belmar.

 

[RULoyal]

I think she is more than ready, but not sure she would wanna come back. She is 38, knows the system, or what's left of it. Been a college, and WNBA player, and is extremely popular with the youngins. Was just watching her, and Georgia play Alabama, I sent her a telepathic message to come back. Also, Joni Taylor will remain head coach for as long as she wants.

I know nothing about her coaching acumen but I don’t want anyone who is going to implement CVS 2.0 philosophy.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Out of the current Top 5, two are from Red Bank Catholic and one is from Saint John Vianney. To be clear, I want a new coach who can recruit well across all of New Jersey, from Bergen to Gloucester, Hunterdon to Atlantic counties. We seem to go everywhere, except our own state, and then way too many leave. It would be like the football program not bothering to recruit Bergen county.

https://www.prepgirlshoops.com/new-jersey/

 

[RUClassof67]

What 3 players that are top rated are from shore? Just curious. We have had a couple of shore ladies, Syessence Davis, and another lady I can see in my head but can't remember her name. We haven't had a lot of players from NJ/NY, period.
The Brenda (Frese) got Diamond Miller from Somerset, and Faith Masonius from Belmar.

The other lady was probably Shakeena Richardson who transferred out

 

[ScarletteK80]

Jordan Wallace was from Camden area.
Briona Canty Willingboro
The Jeune sisters from S.Jersey
Alex Alfano Atlantic Highlands
and, going way back to name a few..Essence Carson, Matee Ajavon, Kia Vaughn(NYC), Heather Zurich, Epiphanny Prince, Arella Guirantes. Some very important ladies from Philly area, including Kahleah Copper.

 

[RUcrazee]

What 3 players that are top rated are from shore? Just curious. We have had a couple of shore ladies, Syessence Davis, and another lady I can see in my head but can't remember her name. We haven't had a lot of players from NJ/NY, period.
The Brenda (Frese) got Diamond Miller from Somerset, and Faith Masonius from Belmar.

The top player in the state, I believe is Madison St Rose( plays for St John Vianney). She's going to Princeton.

We had Sy Davis and Shakena Richardson from Neptune, who is now the AD at Seton Hall and also came back to torch us as a grad transfer after leaving us for FSU. And also Christa Evans from Jackson.

Around that time we also had Briona Canty and Daisha Simmons(before she transferred) who were top rated players from NJ.

I haven't followed the high school scene since covid the last couple of years but just to name a few who recently left our state to play for big time programs in addition to the Mabrys and Masonious:

Olivia Miles(ND), Diamond Miller(Md), Leilani Correa(St Johns), Lashae Dwyer(Miami), Destiny Adams(UNC), Jaida Patrick(Duke), Azaina Baines(VT), and more if you look at the rosters of the top 25-30 teams.

Looks like we are going to strike out on the current group of NJ HS elite talent with the exception of Antonia Bates who just moved back to Jersey this year and is already signed. Hope she do/// /....let me shut up.

Oh, that's right, can't forget Jordan Wallace. Thanks ScarletteK.

 

[Scarlet4Shore]

There is also Destiny Adams from Manchester Twp HS, who is a freshman at UNC.

St. John Vianney is the #5 team in the country. Their head coach was rumored to be a candidate for the Monmouth U head coaching job, but she turned it down. Probably not ready for Big 10 coaching just yet, but has done a heck of a job at SJV.

 

[kupuna133]

Less of a need for the coach to be from the shore area just that they need to know that the shore is a tremendous resource. The shore area loves girls athletics. Treat this passionate crowd well and attendance at all Rutgers sporting events will be improved. Embrace the fact that Hoop Group is a mere 30 minutes from campus. With the amount of camps, leagues, AAU tournaments, showcases the Hoop Group puts on throughout the East Coast, this should be a no brainer.

 

[ho26rus]

Less of a need for the coach to be from the shore area just that they need to know that the shore is a tremendous resource. The shore area loves girls athletics. Treat this passionate crowd well and attendance at all Rutgers sporting events will be improved. Embrace the fact that Hoop Group is a mere 30 minutes from campus. With the amount of camps, leagues, AAU tournaments, showcases the Hoop Group puts on throughout the East Coast, this should be a no brainer.

Sorry to be so late in the discussion. But if a ladies name is not on the committed list does not mean she was not offerred or had gone unnoticed.
The offers and attention are there the girls just seem to want to be elsewhere.
Currently we have offers out to Zoe Brooks from Vianney and Hannah Hidalgo from Pope Paul among others. Ms st Rose has already chosen princeton
Off the top of my head but I am sure there are other 2023 offers out there.

 

[rimsky]

Given the $5M contract given to CVS, Hobbs can't afford to hire a big name replacement?

 

[kupuna133]

Sorry to be so late in the discussion. But if a ladies name is not on the committed list does not mean she was not offerred or had gone unnoticed.
The offers and attention are there the girls just seem to want to be elsewhere.
Currently we have offers out to Zoe Brooks from Vianney and Hannah Hidalgo from Pope Paul among others. Ms st Rose has already chosen princeton
Off the top of my head but I am sure there are other 2023 offers out there.

Agreed. I know how the recruiting game works. I also know many of the coaches (high school, AAU) and trainers in the Central Jersey/Shore area (produce multiple D1 Athletes), who to a man/woman have said this coaching staff did not cultivate relationships.

 

[RUBOB72]

Rutgers has had under Stringer many NJ players…top players. One player I always admired ( under Grentz) was Hightstown NJ Vicky Picott. I believe she is coaching still and is another possibility if you are looking to hire a Rutgers Hall of Fame type. This notion we haven’t had many NJ players of quality is false. It is perhaps that over the past 10 years Rutgers failed to recruit the top kids who went elsewhere. Some of the recruiting misses is dus to the offense coach Stringer ran and the fact younger more energetic women came along. Defense is fine…offense however draws in players.

 

[kupuna133]

Rutgers has had under Stringer many NJ players…top players. One player I always admired ( under Grentz) was Hightstown NJ Vicky Picott. I believe she is coaching still and is another possibility if you are looking to hire a Rutgers Hall of Fame type. This notion we haven’t had many NJ players of quality is false. It is perhaps that over the past 10 years Rutgers failed to recruit the top kids who went elsewhere. Some of the recruiting misses is dus to the offense coach Stringer ran and the fact younger more energetic women came along. Defense is fine…offense however draws in players.

Well said Bob. Too many misses (lack of real recruiting) over the last 10-15 years in the NJ area. My opinion as to why there is an issue with game attendance. Style of play and lack of NJ athletes for the hometown to rally behind.

 

[MADHAT1]

Given the $5M contract given to CVS, Hobbs can't afford to hire a big name replacement?

you never really know if that's true.
Some things are just a guess and though what you posted sounds like a good guess, you can't say it's a fact.

My speculation on next HC salary will be Hobbs inital ofdfer to canidates wilkl be an on the cheap type because that's the way RU hires HCs wheter there's momey available or not to pay the going rate for a top candidate.

 

[zappaa]

Whoever it is, hire the best possible person available that’s willing to come here.
Gender, ethnicity or skin color should not enter into the equation

 

[DHajekRC84]

And some very important ladies from Philly area, including Kahleah Copper.

And Diamond..

 

[wngarbarini]

1,417 people in the stands? That would be terrific!! Last home game I counted those present and it did not meet 300.

 

[RUcrazee]

And Diamond..

And RU H of Famer, Shawnetta Stewart

 

[eso1989]

And Diamond..

Shawnetta Stewart and if you want to add DE - Laney and Rushdan

 

[RUNVA]

CVS should retire and donate the rest of her contract to help hire a new coach and staff. These ladies deserve much more.

 

[shields]

Hopefully we get a full share soon and can hire a good coach.

 

[RUBOB72]

Can’t be paying two women’s head basketball coaches at once.

 

[MADHAT1]

Can’t be paying two women’s head basketball coaches at once.

IF cvs retires, no paying two.
My guess is she'll avail herself to contractual obligations the school made for her transisions into Administration, if she wants to retire from coaching and move to an administrative position at RU

 

[richthedentist]

IF cvs retires, no paying two.
My guess is she'll avail herself to contractual obligations the school made for her transisions into Administration, if she wants to retire from coaching and move to an administrative position at RU

There is not a chance she will be retiring; She is not going to just give up $5million would you; they are going to put her in her administrative position(which by the way means nothing) and she will collect the rest of her salary;
I don't believe the amount she is getting will affect how much we pay for the new coach and I am sure that Hobbs is already working on her successor and FWIW we need to break away from the CVS coaching tree and bring in some fresh blood to reinvigorate the program and quickly as I am sure we are going to lose girls to the transfer portal as soon as this season is over

 

[MADHAT1]

There is not a chance she will be retiring; She is not going to just give up $5million would you; they are going to put her in her administrative position(which by the way means nothing) and she will collect the rest of her salary;
I don't believe the amount she is getting will affect how much we pay for the new coach and I am sure that Hobbs is already working on her successor and FWIW we need to break away from the CVS coaching tree and bring in some fresh blood to reinvigorate the program and quickly as I am sure we are going to lose girls to the transfer portal as soon as this season is over

I had meant that she could retire as HC , move into an administrative position (Associated AD ,my guess) and retain the same salary she made as HC because that was in her contract.
From the first year to the last Vivian could move into administration giving up being HC and be paid the same.

Like you don't believe that money will be an issue when hiring a replacement, but feel RU will do the same penny pinching offers to replacement candidates.
Because historically that's how RU tries to hire..

As for transfer portal, you'll probably right now that transferring is as easy as crossing the street.
The question is?? Will the transfer coming in be as good or better than those who left and will the new HC have the chops to be able to bring out their talent and incorporate it into a winning game strategy.
I personally feel the transfer ins this season are better than they look, it's the coaching that isn't bringing out the best of them.

As for getting away from the Stringer coaching tree, I feel if a candidate has connections to CVS , but has been in a successful program for awhile that's not like what Vivian runs, that candidate deserves consideration and not be automatically discounted because of the Stringer ties .
But I rather see an up and coming experianced HC than an assistant get the job and most from the CVS coaching tree that became HCs weren't successful and might not be the best canidates for the job as the program needs rebuliding from the mess Stringer's LOA put in in by having Tim run the program

 

[HP_Fan]

IF cvs retires, no paying two.
My guess is she'll avail herself to contractual obligations the school made for her transisions into Administration, if she wants to retire from coaching and move to an administrative position at RU

Here is the exact wording:
Under the modified terms of this extension agreement with respect to specified duties and responsibilities, following good faith discussion with coach, coach may be reassigned to other duties by the director, at the discretion of the university, at a level of compensation equivalent to what coach would have earned if a termination without cause (as referenced below) had occurred at the date of reassignment. Rutgers, as a public institution, cannot make open-ended commitments regarding future employment. However, this extension agreement shall serve as Rutgers’ acknowledgment that, if appropriate and subject to all applicable university policy and state and federal law, the parties intend to mutually explore for coach, and university shall use its best efforts to reassign coach during the term to, an administrative role (that is with standing administrative terms of employment) following coach’s tenure as head coach of the Rutgers women’s basketball team.

I’m not a lawyer but this seems to give Hobbs a lot of wiggle room.

 

[wngarbarini]

Hire Daffy Duck. He can’t do any worse than this guy. I feel for these girls.

 

[RUTrack94]

ABT … anybody but Tim.

 

[RUTrack94]

Part of me wishes a coach would say keep Tim as HC … we like 2 guaranteed wins a year.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

It needs to be a complete program flush and re-do…from the ground up. RU should be able to hire some big name by virtue of playing in such a great conference.