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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 131002492" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>Unless there are big NCAA sanctions inherited from the last coach, I think the 3rd season where you can really judge the current coach.&nbsp; The first 2 seasons can be really rough if you are dealing with 2 completely different styles or cultures.&nbsp; RR didn't inherit a great roster from Nehlen, but what he did have was not at all used to playing a spread offense or odd stack defense.&nbsp; But by season 3&nbsp; the coach has had time to get his current players used to his style and the recruits he wants to make the team better.&nbsp; In the first season if there is garbage or gold, it is hard to tell in the moment how much is old vs new guard.&nbsp; It's some of both for sure, but to what degree is unknown at the time.&nbsp; So when Dana crashed and burned in his 3rd and limped along in his 4th season, one could argue inheriting already coached up players was key to his success and that season was influenced more by the previous staff than current.&nbsp; If Brown is floundering in his 3rd year it will be hard to argue that it is due to Dana leaving the cupboard bare or residuals of his undisciplined team culture.&nbsp; For the first time in a while, I'm excited to just make a bowl.&nbsp; It seems like Brown is much more likely to make use of the practices and experience where as I got the impression Dana just didn't care.&nbsp; He didn't use all the practices and only really did anything with the starters.&nbsp; So bowl season with him was New Year's or bust as the who cares bowls were going to be chaotic messes without any valuable development of next year's players by the coaching staff.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 131002492, member: 1812660"] Unless there are big NCAA sanctions inherited from the last coach, I think the 3rd season where you can really judge the current coach. The first 2 seasons can be really rough if you are dealing with 2 completely different styles or cultures. RR didn't inherit a great roster from Nehlen, but what he did have was not at all used to playing a spread offense or odd stack defense. But by season 3 the coach has had time to get his current players used to his style and the recruits he wants to make the team better. In the first season if there is garbage or gold, it is hard to tell in the moment how much is old vs new guard. It's some of both for sure, but to what degree is unknown at the time. So when Dana crashed and burned in his 3rd and limped along in his 4th season, one could argue inheriting already coached up players was key to his success and that season was influenced more by the previous staff than current. If Brown is floundering in his 3rd year it will be hard to argue that it is due to Dana leaving the cupboard bare or residuals of his undisciplined team culture. For the first time in a while, I'm excited to just make a bowl. It seems like Brown is much more likely to make use of the practices and experience where as I got the impression Dana just didn't care. He didn't use all the practices and only really did anything with the starters. So bowl season with him was New Year's or bust as the who cares bowls were going to be chaotic messes without any valuable development of next year's players by the coaching staff. [/QUOTE]

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