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The defense is the biggest worry heading into 2019, offensively we will be fine. But we literally lose someone at every spot except cornerback. We lost 5 of our top 6 tacklers. We lose our top 3 safeties. We lose our only OLB that started every game. We lose an ILB that started since he was a freshman. With over 100+ starts gone, it's a dicey situation from a defense that already didn't show well in 2018. People can say "well we aren't losing anyone that great", but my counter would be "they are being replaced by people that couldn't beat them out or are in the 2019 recruiting class." Scary. All that said, another year in the system, another year in the S&C program, I expect us to be better. Here's my biggest worry ranked down to the last:

1) ILB Dedrick Young
- And I can already hear people complaining about my list first name in. Dedrick Young is leaving Nebraska starting since a freshman, and sitting 11th best on unassisted tackles in the history of our program. He played the most snaps by any ILB in 2018, was our best coverage LB according to pro football focus grades, and was our best tackler at ILB according to PFF, and it wasn't even close. That's tough to replace. For as much flack as he caught, no one could unseat him that was behind him. People say "that should show you just how bad our depth is", and I would agree, and that's why I have this spot as my #1 concern heading into 2019 despite the return of Mo Barry. Furthering my concern, ILB is one of 5 position groups we lose someone at on defense. Of the positions that play 2 players at a time, ILB has the fewest scholarship guys returning (6), and 50% of those scholarships are to true freshman, add another 16% to someone coming off a knee injury, and losing Weinmaster to retirement who I didn't even count. DE has 11 guys on scholarship, but only 3 are true freshmen. OLB has 10 on scholarship and only 2 true freshmen right now. Safety is close with 7 on scholarship but only a couple true freshmen.

If Will Honas doesn't blow his knee out last year, Young's departure is probably 3rd or 4th of my worries on the defense. As it stands, we have to trust that either Honas will be ok (who couldn't beat Young out while healthy). Collin Miller figures out what he's doing, even though he couldn't beat Young out in 2018. Ruud has done everything he can bringing in one of the best ILB classes in the country. Nick Henrich, Jackson Hannah, and Garrett Snodgrass will have every chance to not redshirt in 2019. Ruud also convinced Reimers to walk-on and bypass his scholarship to South Dakota State. But the truth is we are replacing Young with true freshmen or two guys that couldn't beat him out last year. Who do we have?

Will Honas - If not for his injury, I would feel all sorts of ok here. But he's just such a big question mark since you don't know what you are going to get from him.

Collin MIller - There's a rumor out there that the more reps Miller got, the better he became. Well, he will have his chance this spring as he will start out with the 1s on day 1. Would love for him to take the next step. Miller, who was the scout team MVP his freshman year rushing the passer always seemed more like an OLB in a 3-4 to me, but this is the second staff to have him on the inside. And i'm just a message board guy.

Nick Henrich - A 2019 recruit that "has the best linebacker film i've seen" per a guy that was involved with his recruitment. The issue for NH is he is coming off a knee injury, and is a little light to take on B1G offensive linemen at this point. Will he have time to put on the necessary weight? Because he's a good enough football player. He will get here in the spring to help himself out.

Jackson Hannah - Another gem in the 2019 recruiting class, this kid has played all over and has the size to be a factor immediately. The issue is, he won't be here in the spring like Henrich. He can also be moved outside depending on how things look there, but we need a ton of help inside, and it gets even worse when Barry graduates after this season.

Garrett Snodgrass - In my opinion he will need some time to develop, but this could be one of those stories where he gets even better going against great competition.

Luke Reimer - This is a really good get, and probably will need some time to get acclimated, but we are so thin he may get his shot.

Joey Johnson - He was put at OLB, but we are so thin at ILB there will be a position switch or two this spring. He's a candidate even tho OLB isn't exactly bursting at the seams with talent either.

2) Safeties Antonio Reed, Tre Neal, Aaron Williams
- And I agree with the poll here, safety is a huge concern. If not for Honas blowing out his knee, this would be #1 for me. We lose Antonio Reed, Tre Neal, and Aaron Williams. That's not good, usually you are getting one of your top 3 guys back at a position, but here we are. One of the things that made me slightly less concerned is that it has better "veteran depth" at the spot compared to ILB. But the injury bug hit really hard and stunted the development of our top safety class from 2018. Before 2018 started, Frost said we had a top 5 safety class in the country, which makes this again less of a concern. However, our two true freshmen safeties that came in suffered season-ending injuries which probably stunted their development a little, one of which is a game time decision for the spring which doesn't help. Make no mistake, this is as big of a deal as ILB, we just have a few more options that aren't true freshmen to help us deal with it. Someone could certainly convince me that since we lose both starters here instead of just one at ILB, it's a bigger worry, but for now it's #2 for me. Who do we got?

Deontai Williams - He's going to have to figure out what he's doing in 2019. And I think he can. He was our most dynamic safety last year, when he was in the right spot, and unfortunately he wasn't enough to make a bigger impact. If you remember, I always told you that Marcus Newby was our most dynamic linebacker at practices, when he hit the pads, the sled, or another player, it just sounded different. But he just couldn't get in the right spot. Hoping Williams gets the kinks worked out, I think he will.

Marquel Dismuke - Unlike at ILB, we have a four star veteran sitting there with a starting spot open. He's shown flashes of being able to get it done, but also flashes of not being able to. The opportunity is there for him if he wants it.

Avery Anderson - If he is still here, another 4 star to take a look at to fill the void.

JoJo Domann - I would prefer us keeping him at OLB, and think our staff will do that. But he gives us some options if the OLB room gets full.

Cam Jones and CJ Smith - These guys were in some peoples Super 6 as guys that would make an instant impact. Unfortunately, two major injuries forced them out this fall, and I believe both could miss this spring as well. I'm hoping one of these guys gets healed and challenges Dismuke and Anderson for the other spot.

Pola-Gates, Myles Farmer, Javin Wright, Quinton Newsome - Any of these freshmen have a chance to play right away. Especially if Pola-Gates pulls the trigger like has been expected the past few weeks.

3) OLB Luke Gifford
- It's surprising for me to have this one at #3, but I think that's an indication of the spot we are in at ILB and safety. Luke Gifford was our sack leader, team leader, and one of our biggest producers on defense, that doesn't make things easy. All that said, Domann and Ferguson are back and showed some flashes last year where if they can stay healthy, we won't skip a beat here. But who else can we rely on if we count Domann and Ferguson as starters?

Caleb Tannor - The much celebrated commitment of 4 star Tannor from Georgia had many Husker fans thinking we had our situational pass rusher off the edge to help us. He didn't quite get to where we thought he could, but another year in S&C should help. I would expect in year 2, which is typically the biggest jump for players, at the very least we could get him in as a very productive situational player. If not challenging Domann or Ferguson for a starting spot, and at the very least spelling them during injury.

Breon Dixon - Here's my Eric Martin/Marcus Newby again. Talent-wise, not sure it gets better than him at this position for us. But he has to become a good teammate and do what's asked of him on and off the field. Massive spring for Dixon.

Alex Davis - I only put him third on this list because I would prefer a younger guy to step up, but he has the playing experience to give us some options here. He was frustrating to watch at times, but again he was in his fourth system in four years. Maybe year 2 of the same system will help?

Alexander and Jefferson - If here, they will ride out their scholarship for another season.

David Alston - Had an injury that nagged him midway thru the season so I have little information here, but would be a nice surprise to see him pushing some guys.

Garrett Nelson - I think he eventually gets down to DE, as I think he is Ben Stille 2.0. However, he's not as tall as Stille, so that may not be doable. He will need a year then be ready to challenge. He is here in the spring tho.

Jamin Graham - I can't tell if I like his film or not. So i'm sure he will be a stud.

4) NG Mick Stoltenberg and Peyton Newell
- The lynchpin position of the defense, this would probably have been higher if not for him only playing 4 games there. Our rush defense got worse without him, but we actually won games when he didn't play there. Not sure it was solely on Mick, just pointing that out. Who can replace him?

Carlos Davis - Let's start with who actually replaced him, CDavis. Now, Davis is better suited for DE, but stepped up nicely to help in Stoltenbergs absence. Would be nice if we can have someone step up and slide Davis outside.

Darrion Daniels - The grad transfer from Oklahoma State has had rave reviews from Cowboys fans about how much he will be missed. If he can be on the field consistently unlike his brother, we may have something here.

Damion Daniels - Daniels' snaps per game actually went down with Stoltenberg out, which is crazy. He needs to get to the 25 snaps a game range before we can count on him.

Vaha Vainuku - Not expecting a ton here as he's moved from defense to offense to defense to whatever.

Ethan Piper - Piper has the frame to put on some weight and is athletic as heck. But if he is on defense he will start out at DE.

Matthew Pola-Mao - The cousin of Pola-Gates would be a nice 4 star addition to an already stacked DL class.

5) DE Freedom Akinmoladun
- Really not worried about this spot at all. However, the injury bug did hit quite a few guys including both of our true freshmen. Daishon Neal, Deontre Thomas, Casey Rogers, Tate Wildeman, they all had season ending injuries and stunted development. While Thomas could have played later in the year but chose to redshirt, it would have been nice to get him ready. Glass is half-full, at least he has another year of eligibility.

Carlos Davis, Khalil Davis, Ben Stille - 3 guys that played a ton for us last year are back. If we can't make this work, what do we do.

Deontre Thomas - I have been high on him since his freshmen season, time for him to assert himself to start in 2020. I think he will.

Tate Wildeman - Season ending blown knee stunted his development, but he's one i'm expecting a lot from. With the veterans we have back, it gives us a chance to ease him into things. But a four star recruit we will be needing in 2020.

Daishon Neal - Season ending knee injury, we will see if he can get in the rotation for 2019.

Casey Rogers - Some say he has more upside than Wildeman, need to get him on the field to develop him if we are going to make that reality.

Ty Robinson - He is good enough to play as a true freshman, but will he? This may be a good use of the 4 game redshirt rule with us having so many veteran guys back.

Mosai Newsome, Ethan Piper, Brant Banks - I really like Newsomes film, Piper may take a year, and Banks has a long ways to go defensively in my opinion. But these true freshmen will benefit from a year in the S&C department.

Summary
There's just so much i'm worried about. Again, I hear the "we didn't lose anyone that great", but that doesn't give me a ton of confidence for the people that couldn't beat them out that will now be relied on in 2019. There's an old saying that if you are good in the middle of your defense, you won't have any worries. We lose our NG, ILB, and both safeties.

But let me glass is half-full this, this will be the first time we have ran the same defense in consecutive seasons in 6 years. That is mind-blowing. No wonder kids looked lost at times. That's on the administration. Pelini, Banker 4-3, Banker 4-3 rugby tackling, Diaco, Chinander. If for nothing else, we will be better for once at defense because we will have a better idea of what we are doing.

Now feel free to argue with me.


 

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This is great analysis and frankly dropped some anti-freeze into the kool aid (light version) I was drinking. Hard to argue with most of it.

DL will be better than last year.

I think CB play (not mentioned above) will be improved.

I didnt realize Jones and Smith could miss spring ball which is a big loss, but if healthy, I think Safety will be ok.

I think we have a lot of LBs total and won’t be surprised by any reshuffling between OLB and ILB. Not having Honas for spring hurts bad. Ferguson and Dixon are both candidates to move inside for example if others emerge at OLB. So it may turn into find your best 8 LBs and get em on the field where they can help the most. I’m most concerned about LB play overall realizing we’re paper thin with quality talent despite overall numbers. If Barry, Miller, Ferguson, and Tannor (plus Domann?/Dixon?) can solidify themselves, that will help a lot.

2019 defense will have a lot riding on a handful of guys stepping up and staying healthy across the board.

That’s the nature of college ball.
 

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The defense is the biggest worry heading into 2019, offensively we will be fine. But we literally lose someone at every spot except cornerback. We lost 5 of our top 6 tacklers. We lose our top 3 safeties. We lose our only OLB that started every game. We lose an ILB that started since he was a freshman. With over 100+ starts gone, it's a dicey situation from a defense that already didn't show well in 2018. People can say "well we aren't losing anyone that great", but my counter would be "they are being replaced by people that couldn't beat them out or are in the 2019 recruiting class." Scary. All that said, another year in the system, another year in the S&C program, I expect us to be better. Here's my biggest worry ranked down to the last:

1) ILB Dedrick Young
- And I can already hear people complaining about my list first name in. Dedrick Young is leaving Nebraska starting since a freshman, and sitting 11th best on unassisted tackles in the history of our program. He played the most snaps by any ILB in 2018, was our best coverage LB according to pro football focus grades, and was our best tackler at ILB according to PFF, and it wasn't even close. That's tough to replace. For as much flack as he caught, no one could unseat him that was behind him. People say "that should show you just how bad our depth is", and I would agree, and that's why I have this spot as my #1 concern heading into 2019 despite the return of Mo Barry. Furthering my concern, ILB is one of 5 position groups we lose someone at on defense. Of the positions that play 2 players at a time, ILB has the fewest scholarship guys returning (6), and 50% of those scholarships are to true freshman, add another 16% to someone coming off a knee injury, and losing Weinmaster to retirement who I didn't even count. DE has 11 guys on scholarship, but only 3 are true freshmen. OLB has 10 on scholarship and only 2 true freshmen right now. Safety is close with 7 on scholarship but only a couple true freshmen.

If Will Honas doesn't blow his knee out last year, Young's departure is probably 3rd or 4th of my worries on the defense. As it stands, we have to trust that either Honas will be ok (who couldn't beat Young out while healthy). Collin Miller figures out what he's doing, even though he couldn't beat Young out in 2018. Ruud has done everything he can bringing in one of the best ILB classes in the country. Nick Henrich, Jackson Hannah, and Garrett Snodgrass will have every chance to not redshirt in 2019. Ruud also convinced Reimers to walk-on and bypass his scholarship to South Dakota State. But the truth is we are replacing Young with true freshmen or two guys that couldn't beat him out last year. Who do we have?

Will Honas - If not for his injury, I would feel all sorts of ok here. But he's just such a big question mark since you don't know what you are going to get from him.

Collin MIller - There's a rumor out there that the more reps Miller got, the better he became. Well, he will have his chance this spring as he will start out with the 1s on day 1. Would love for him to take the next step. Miller, who was the scout team MVP his freshman year rushing the passer always seemed more like an OLB in a 3-4 to me, but this is the second staff to have him on the inside. And i'm just a message board guy.

Nick Henrich - A 2019 recruit that "has the best linebacker film i've seen" per a guy that was involved with his recruitment. The issue for NH is he is coming off a knee injury, and is a little light to take on B1G offensive linemen at this point. Will he have time to put on the necessary weight? Because he's a good enough football player. He will get here in the spring to help himself out.

Jackson Hannah - Another gem in the 2019 recruiting class, this kid has played all over and has the size to be a factor immediately. The issue is, he won't be here in the spring like Henrich. He can also be moved outside depending on how things look there, but we need a ton of help inside, and it gets even worse when Barry graduates after this season.

Garrett Snodgrass - In my opinion he will need some time to develop, but this could be one of those stories where he gets even better going against great competition.

Luke Reimer - This is a really good get, and probably will need some time to get acclimated, but we are so thin he may get his shot.

Joey Johnson - He was put at OLB, but we are so thin at ILB there will be a position switch or two this spring. He's a candidate even tho OLB isn't exactly bursting at the seams with talent either.

2) Safeties Antonio Reed, Tre Neal, Aaron Williams
- And I agree with the poll here, safety is a huge concern. If not for Honas blowing out his knee, this would be #1 for me. We lose Antonio Reed, Tre Neal, and Aaron Williams. That's not good, usually you are getting one of your top 3 guys back at a position, but here we are. One of the things that made me slightly less concerned is that it has better "veteran depth" at the spot compared to ILB. But the injury bug hit really hard and stunted the development of our top safety class from 2018. Before 2018 started, Frost said we had a top 5 safety class in the country, which makes this again less of a concern. However, our two true freshmen safeties that came in suffered season-ending injuries which probably stunted their development a little, one of which is a game time decision for the spring which doesn't help. Make no mistake, this is as big of a deal as ILB, we just have a few more options that aren't true freshmen to help us deal with it. Someone could certainly convince me that since we lose both starters here instead of just one at ILB, it's a bigger worry, but for now it's #2 for me. Who do we got?

Deontai Williams - He's going to have to figure out what he's doing in 2019. And I think he can. He was our most dynamic safety last year, when he was in the right spot, and unfortunately he wasn't enough to make a bigger impact. If you remember, I always told you that Marcus Newby was our most dynamic linebacker at practices, when he hit the pads, the sled, or another player, it just sounded different. But he just couldn't get in the right spot. Hoping Williams gets the kinks worked out, I think he will.

Marquel Dismuke - Unlike at ILB, we have a four star veteran sitting there with a starting spot open. He's shown flashes of being able to get it done, but also flashes of not being able to. The opportunity is there for him if he wants it.

Avery Anderson - If he is still here, another 4 star to take a look at to fill the void.

JoJo Domann - I would prefer us keeping him at OLB, and think our staff will do that. But he gives us some options if the OLB room gets full.

Cam Jones and CJ Smith - These guys were in some peoples Super 6 as guys that would make an instant impact. Unfortunately, two major injuries forced them out this fall, and I believe both could miss this spring as well. I'm hoping one of these guys gets healed and challenges Dismuke and Anderson for the other spot.

Pola-Gates, Myles Farmer, Javin Wright, Quinton Newsome - Any of these freshmen have a chance to play right away. Especially if Pola-Gates pulls the trigger like has been expected the past few weeks.

3) OLB Luke Gifford
- It's surprising for me to have this one at #3, but I think that's an indication of the spot we are in at ILB and safety. Luke Gifford was our sack leader, team leader, and one of our biggest producers on defense, that doesn't make things easy. All that said, Domann and Ferguson are back and showed some flashes last year where if they can stay healthy, we won't skip a beat here. But who else can we rely on if we count Domann and Ferguson as starters?

Caleb Tannor - The much celebrated commitment of 4 star Tannor from Georgia had many Husker fans thinking we had our situational pass rusher off the edge to help us. He didn't quite get to where we thought he could, but another year in S&C should help. I would expect in year 2, which is typically the biggest jump for players, at the very least we could get him in as a very productive situational player. If not challenging Domann or Ferguson for a starting spot, and at the very least spelling them during injury.

Breon Dixon - Here's my Eric Martin/Marcus Newby again. Talent-wise, not sure it gets better than him at this position for us. But he has to become a good teammate and do what's asked of him on and off the field. Massive spring for Dixon.

Alex Davis - I only put him third on this list because I would prefer a younger guy to step up, but he has the playing experience to give us some options here. He was frustrating to watch at times, but again he was in his fourth system in four years. Maybe year 2 of the same system will help?

Alexander and Jefferson - If here, they will ride out their scholarship for another season.

David Alston - Had an injury that nagged him midway thru the season so I have little information here, but would be a nice surprise to see him pushing some guys.

Garrett Nelson - I think he eventually gets down to DE, as I think he is Ben Stille 2.0. However, he's not as tall as Stille, so that may not be doable. He will need a year then be ready to challenge. He is here in the spring tho.

Jamin Graham - I can't tell if I like his film or not. So i'm sure he will be a stud.

4) NG Mick Stoltenberg and Peyton Newell
- The lynchpin position of the defense, this would probably have been higher if not for him only playing 4 games there. Our rush defense got worse without him, but we actually won games when he didn't play there. Not sure it was solely on Mick, just pointing that out. Who can replace him?

Carlos Davis - Let's start with who actually replaced him, CDavis. Now, Davis is better suited for DE, but stepped up nicely to help in Stoltenbergs absence. Would be nice if we can have someone step up and slide Davis outside.

Darrion Daniels - The grad transfer from Oklahoma State has had rave reviews from Cowboys fans about how much he will be missed. If he can be on the field consistently unlike his brother, we may have something here.

Damion Daniels - Daniels' snaps per game actually went down with Stoltenberg out, which is crazy. He needs to get to the 25 snaps a game range before we can count on him.

Vaha Vainuku - Not expecting a ton here as he's moved from defense to offense to defense to whatever.

Ethan Piper - Piper has the frame to put on some weight and is athletic as heck. But if he is on defense he will start out at DE.

Matthew Pola-Mao - The cousin of Pola-Gates would be a nice 4 star addition to an already stacked DL class.

5) DE Freedom Akinmoladun
- Really not worried about this spot at all. However, the injury bug did hit quite a few guys including both of our true freshmen. Daishon Neal, Deontre Thomas, Casey Rogers, Tate Wildeman, they all had season ending injuries and stunted development. While Thomas could have played later in the year but chose to redshirt, it would have been nice to get him ready. Glass is half-full, at least he has another year of eligibility.

Carlos Davis, Khalil Davis, Ben Stille - 3 guys that played a ton for us last year are back. If we can't make this work, what do we do.

Deontre Thomas - I have been high on him since his freshmen season, time for him to assert himself to start in 2020. I think he will.

Tate Wildeman - Season ending blown knee stunted his development, but he's one i'm expecting a lot from. With the veterans we have back, it gives us a chance to ease him into things. But a four star recruit we will be needing in 2020.

Daishon Neal - Season ending knee injury, we will see if he can get in the rotation for 2019.

Casey Rogers - Some say he has more upside than Wildeman, need to get him on the field to develop him if we are going to make that reality.

Ty Robinson - He is good enough to play as a true freshman, but will he? This may be a good use of the 4 game redshirt rule with us having so many veteran guys back.

Mosai Newsome, Ethan Piper, Brant Banks - I really like Newsomes film, Piper may take a year, and Banks has a long ways to go defensively in my opinion. But these true freshmen will benefit from a year in the S&C department.

Summary
There's just so much i'm worried about. Again, I hear the "we didn't lose anyone that great", but that doesn't give me a ton of confidence for the people that couldn't beat them out that will now be relied on in 2019. There's an old saying that if you are good in the middle of your defense, you won't have any worries. We lose our NG, ILB, and both safeties.

But let me glass is half-full this, this will be the first time we have ran the same defense in consecutive seasons in 6 years. That is mind-blowing. No wonder kids looked lost at times. That's on the administration. Pelini, Banker 4-3, Banker 4-3 rugby tackling, Diaco, Chinander. If for nothing else, we will be better for once at defense because we will have a better idea of what we are doing.

Now feel free to argue with me.


This was a great write up. Honas was getting more snaps as the season went on. I think he would have been the starter, if he hadn't blown his knee out.

I think we'll be better defensively. We need some leaders on the defense.
 

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This was a great write up. Honas was getting more snaps as the season went on. I think he would have been the starter, if he hadn't blown his knee out.

I think we'll be better defensively. We need some leaders on the defense.
Good point about leadership. Talent aside, our seniors were the core of our leadership- a significant loss when scanning over what remains. Mo Barry no doubt will be leading. Even if not a starter, I can see Cam Taylor stepping up. Maybe Domann, Ferguson, Bootle also? Darrion Daniels was known for his leadership, so he’ll have to establish that again here.
 
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Good point about leadership. Talent aside, our seniors were the core of our leadership- a significant loss when scanning over what remains. Mo Barry no doubt will be leading. Even if not a starter, I can see Cam Taylor stepping up. Maybe Domann, Ferguson, Bootle also? Darrion Daniels was known for his leadership, so he’ll have to establish that again here.

We need some passionate guys on the defense. Mo Barry is awesome, but we need more dudes with his attitude.
 

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We need some passionate guys on the defense. Mo Barry is awesome, but we need more dudes with his attitude.

Some youngsters are gonna need to show some swag.
Let’s not leave out Damian Jackson. I wish he could do it on the field, but no doubt he’ll be getting our guys focused.
 
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I think this guy is vastly overrating experience. We had a ton of experience on defense this past year and it didn't do **** for us. I also disagree with the statement "if you couldn't beat out Young last year, that means you're no good." Collin Miller showed a lot in the opportunities he got and Honas was making strides every week before he got injured. All these guys need is some playing time and they will break out and be much better than the guys they were replacing.

The safety spot is addition by subtraction too. We get rid of 3 seniors who played like freshman their whole careers and replace them with Deontai who has more pure talent at that position than anyone we've had for a long time. The other safety spot is a question mark but we have a lot of guys who can step up and be able to play at a high level.

My biggest concerns on defense would be depth at the NT position and finding a guy besides Feguson to step up at the other OLB spot.

We have the talent to be a top 30 defense next year. Do we have the coaching to keep improving every week. That will be the biggest factor in determining how good this defense can be.
 

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C’mon, Young was a good athlete, and that seemed to be it. I thank him for choosing NU, but he missed a lot. If there is a drop off, it isn’t going to be much, and it will be short lived. We’ve got a few guys coming in that are big time football players. A little light at this time, but instinct and attitude will do wonders for them. Am not worried in the least about ILB
 

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Our D-line will be better which all starts there and our corners are set.

The middle of the field could be a dreaded area for us due to our Linebackers and safeties being a huge question mark.

This will be another year where our offense is going to have to put on a clinic to win.
 
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Young was consistent about 70% of the time. 20 % he would miss his gap and about 10% of the time he would miss an easy tackle and give up a huge play. For a guy who played as many snaps as he did, that is a lot of screw ups. I think Honas has a much better nose for the football based on film and the short time he had playing.
 

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The depth on defense is a big concern especially if newish guys like Honas, Jones, Smith, Clark could all miss spring ball. Henrich, Wildeman, Rogers, Neal etc. also coming off injury. That’s not a great place to start the process of building the defense, in particular when we’re thin at ILB and Safety a bit for numbers.

Some walk ons are gonna get more looks this spring. And the fact we’ve got a couple years of decent walk on classes will help I hope.

Surviving spring is important as we cant afford more injuries, and then fall camp is gonna be when things really need to come together fast.
 
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Some of you all make me laugh.......If you don't like what he had to say, make your own analysis. ha ha ha

This guy is overvaluing experience.......our dline will be better because they guys will be a year older.

Will Honas was making huge strides before he was injured........He had 15 total tackles and 8 of them were against Troy, in the second game.

Our linebackers will be better because Young won't be around...........Honas coming off injury, Colin Miller hasn't seemed to be able to grasp the position, Weinmaster retired, 2 true freshmen, 1 coming off a knee injury. All is well!!!!!!!

Safety will be better because Deontai Williams and Dismuke, ............................Dismuke was available all season and had less tackles than Honas. And couldn't beat out three guys who played like freshmen. The best safety on the team, Domann, is going to be playing OLB.


Dixon can just move inside..........Dixon isn't big enough to play outside, now you want him taking on guards and centers...hahahahahah good one. Oh and tell me again why Domann will be moving to OLB, that's right because Dixon isn't handling his business.

Sometimes the truth is a little tough to take.
 

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Some of you all make me laugh.......If you don't like what he had to say, make your own analysis. ha ha ha

This guy is overvaluing experience.......our dline will be better because they guys will be a year older.

Will Honas was making huge strides before he was injured........He had 15 total tackles and 8 of them were against Troy, in the second game.

Our linebackers will be better because Young won't be around...........Honas coming off injury, Colin Miller hasn't seemed to be able to grasp the position, Weinmaster retired, 2 true freshmen, 1 coming off a knee injury. All is well!!!!!!!

Safety will be better because Deontai Williams and Dismuke, ............................Dismuke was available all season and had less tackles than Honas. And couldn't beat out three guys who played like freshmen. The best safety on the team, Domann, is going to be playing OLB.


Dixon can just move inside..........Dixon isn't big enough to play outside, now you want him taking on guards and centers...hahahahahah good one. Oh and tell me again why Domann will be moving to OLB, that's right because Dixon isn't handling his business.

Sometimes the truth is a little tough to take.
We had a ton of experience last year...didn't seem to do much for us. Experience can help a lot in some situations, but when a guy has started his whole career and hasn't improved at all, experience doesn't count for much.

I agree ILB depth is concerning, especially with Weinmaster leaving. And I don't think the incoming freshman will be able to contribute right away. However Miller and Honas having another year in the system is huge and I think will give us much better quality of play than we saw last year.

I saw enough out of Dismuke to know he can be just as good, if not better than any of the seniors who left at safety. Deontai Williams has a huge ceiling and is going to be a really good player. The safety position will be much improved next year.

We should be a much improved defense next year. Now is it actually going to happen, I don't know. The talent is there to be much better.
 
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We had a ton of experience last year...didn't seem to do much for us. Experience can help a lot in some situations, but when a guy has started his whole career and hasn't improved at all, experience doesn't count for much.

I agree ILB depth is concerning, especially with Weinmaster leaving. And I don't think the incoming freshman will be able to contribute right away. However Miller and Honas having another year in the system is huge and I think will give us much better quality of play than we saw last year.

I saw enough out of Dismuke to know he can be just as good, if not better than any of the seniors who left at safety. Deontai Williams has a huge ceiling and is going to be a really good player. The safety position will be much improved next year.

We should be a much improved defense next year. Now is it actually going to happen, I don't know. The talent is there to be much better.

And when a guy hasn't been able to unseat lesser quality players for 2 or 3 years, (Miller, Dismuke), you are just hoping that they are better quality. We all hope it happens, but there is nothing objective to show it will. Dismuke only registered tackles in about 5 games last year.

So in your mind, experience only matters when the experience was as a backup behind players that, in your opinion, weren't very good?
 
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And when a guy hasn't been able to unseat lesser quality players for 2 or 3 years, (Miller, Dismuke), you are just hoping that they are better quality. We all hope it happens, but there is nothing objective to show it will. Dismuke only registered tackles in about 5 games last year.

So in your mind, experience only matters when the experience was as a backup behind players that, in your opinion, weren't very good?
Watch their film. They both have plenty of talent. Get them some playing time and they will continue to improve and become good players. Contrast that with guys like Freedom or Young who reached their potential by their freshman or sophomore years and never got any better.
 

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I think the best argument for a better D next year is that this will be the second year playing in the system for these kids with the same coaches (at least as of today). The concern about the ILB position is super legit. I would say it is highly likely (100% likely) that we will be depending upon true frosh/walkons to provide depth at the position. Better hope Hannah and/or Heinrich are legit players inside. The favorite LB to bag on the past few years played critical snaps as a frosh, let's hope one or both of those two can do the same.
 

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You realize that Miller and Dismuke have been at Nebraska for 3 season right?
Ok they're both going to be juniors. Both have gotten playing time and have shown they have the potential to be good players. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
 

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pretty good analysis.. not sure I have a lot of desire to put prior regime leftovers in there in lieu of freshmen from the current and past recruiting cycles. I guess it's better to have some options than none. I still have concerns with the DE's, but I think it is more with how the DE/OLB/ILB all functioned as a single 7 man unit. At times, they were really playing well together and no busts of responsibility from one to the other, and good pressure on the QB. Other times, they were like 3 units who were not all on the same page. Let's hope another year in the system improves this, which I think it should.
 
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Ok they're both going to be juniors. Both have gotten playing time and have shown they have the potential to be good players. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

The point is you keep talking about all of their potential, in the same breath, say that the people they have played behind for 3 years were basically worthless. Which is it? At what point does the potential actually turn into production? Neither of these two would have been on the 2 deep, after 3 years on the team. Deontai Williams and Will Honas come in from JUCO and immediately are above them on the depth chart.

Again, you are hoping that what you believe you are seeing is real. But the fact that a 3rd year soph cant beat out "guys who play like freshman" should tell you something.
 
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The point is you keep talking about all of their potential, in the same breath, say that the people they have played behind for 3 years were basically worthless. Which is it? At what point does the potential actually turn into production? Neither of these two would have been on the 2 deep, after 3 years on the team. Deontai Williams and Will Honas come in from JUCO and immediately are above them on the depth chart.

Again, you are hoping that what you believe you are seeing is real. But the fact that a 3rd year soph cant beat out "guys who play like freshman" should tell you something.
What are you talking about? They both were in the two deep this year. That's why they got significant playing time. When you get starter's reps, it's a completely different mentality you take on. Some guys will show massive improvement getting starter's reps for the first time while previously they may have been wallowing away on the scout team. I'm not sure not being able to beat out the starter is the answer. The coaches obviously valued in game experience a lot and that's why they got most of the playing time.
 
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What are you talking about? They both were in the two deep this year. That's why they got significant playing time. When you get starter's reps, it's a completely different mentality you take on. I'm not sure not being able to beat out the starter is the answer. The coaches obviously valued in game experience a lot and that's why they got most of the playing time.

I think you need to check your two deep. Dismuke is not on there and Miller is only on there because Honas went down with injury.

Dismuke had 3 times as many tackles in 2017 as he did in 2018, why? because he was beat out by Neal and by Williams, 2 newcomers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Miller get beat out by Henrich and Hannah.
 

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You realize that Miller and Dismuke have been at Nebraska for 3 season right?
Our only hope for this fall is that guys that heretofore have not seen much playing time have a full grasp of Chin's scheme such that they will perform better than my expectations. Most of the explosive plays we gave up to me appeared to be due to mental mistakes. I do not believe that losing Freedom or Mick will trigger a decrease in performance. IMO, Freedom looked like a liability to me when he was in the game and Mick never played at his potential because of injury. Losing Gifford and safeties especially hurts IMO. Offense? No worries for me. Defense? Lots of worries but we've got a TON of room for improvement so who knows.
 

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I think you need to check your two deep. Dismuke is not on there and Miller is only on there because Honas went down with injury.

Dismuke had 3 times as many tackles in 2017 as he did in 2018, why? because he was beat out by Neal and by Williams, 2 newcomers.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Miller get beat out by Henrich and Hannah.
Miller was in the 2 deep all year, even when Honas was healthy. Dismuke was just behind 3 seniors and Deontai, but he was the first guy in after that. The staff obviously went with the older experienced players. That doesn't mean the players behind them who were sophomores sucked. Miller's not going to get beat out by a couple of freshman, certainly not next year. I expect we'll try to redshirt at least 1, if not both of the freshmen ILB's.
 
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I fully agree Honas was really coming on strong until injury. I desperately hope he'll be ready.
 

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The point is you keep talking about all of their potential, in the same breath, say that the people they have played behind for 3 years were basically worthless. Which is it? At what point does the potential actually turn into production? Neither of these two would have been on the 2 deep, after 3 years on the team. Deontai Williams and Will Honas come in from JUCO and immediately are above them on the depth chart.

Again, you are hoping that what you believe you are seeing is real. But the fact that a 3rd year soph cant beat out "guys who play like freshman" should tell you something.

Tuco, I hear what you’re saying. It’s the kool aid/drunk/vomit schizo cycle we suffer from as fans of a dumpster fire defense. It’s hard to make sense of the world after that year we had to listen to Diaco explain himself and the players that apparently weren’t being trained to be football ready.
We’re left sorting through the pieces to see what can be rebuilt into something that looks like Husker football.
But speculations rationale or not are all part of the message board game.
 

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Ok they're both going to be juniors. Both have gotten playing time and have shown they have the potential to be good players. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

I am not sure what you call potential? Guess we all have a certain amount of potential. But you have watched the film, realizing there really is not very much and have made the call. It would be nice to see a couple guys step up and separate themselves. If that doesn't happen, what does that tell you? Or the fact a couple of kids have been here for three years and haven't earned significant playing time?
 
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I think the best argument for a better D next year is that this will be the second year playing in the system for these kids with the same coaches (at least as of today). The concern about the ILB position is super legit. I would say it is highly likely (100% likely) that we will be depending upon true frosh/walkons to provide depth at the position. Better hope Hannah and/or Heinrich are legit players inside. The favorite LB to bag on the past few years played critical snaps as a frosh, let's hope one or both of those two can do the same.

Both are better football players, period.
 

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Young was consistent about 70% of the time. 20 % he would miss his gap and about 10% of the time he would miss an easy tackle and give up a huge play. For a guy who played as many snaps as he did, that is a lot of screw ups. I think Honas has a much better nose for the football based on film and the short time he had playing.
My take on Young is that he was the opposite of a "gamer". I think he must have played his best football in the spring and fall preseason practices. He always impressed his coaches and won the starting job, but he in games he seemed to be a step slow, make mental mistakes and didn't always play with great effort.
 

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Miller was in the 2 deep all year, even when Honas was healthy. Dismuke was just behind 3 seniors and Deontai, but he was the first guy in after that. The staff obviously went with the older experienced players. That doesn't mean the players behind them who were sophomores sucked. Miller's not going to get beat out by a couple of freshman, certainly not next year. I expect we'll try to redshirt at least 1, if not both of the freshmen ILB's.
IF I had to bet money, I would bet that at least one of those incoming freshmen ILBs will play. We are sooo thin at linebacker. We've got some very good talent coming in and I'll be very surprised if they don't climb the depth chart quickly.
 

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My take on Young is that he was the opposite of a "gamer". I think he must have played his best football in the spring and fall preseason practices. He always impressed his coaches and won the starting job, but he in games he seemed to be a step slow, make mental mistakes and didn't always play with great effort.
Young had 50 tackles in 10 games as a freshman. Compare that to Nate Gerry (32) and Josh Banderas (28) as true frosh.
 

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I am not sure what you call potential? Guess we all have a certain amount of potential. But you have watched the film, realizing there really is not very much and have made the call. It would be nice to see a couple guys step up and separate themselves. If that doesn't happen, what does that tell you? Or the fact a couple of kids have been here for three years and haven't earned significant playing time?
But they did have significant playing time...last year... as sophomores....

They both have a very good chance of earning starting spots next year. I'm actually much higher on Collin Miller than I am on Dismuke. Miller has shown a lot better instincts than Young ever has. I think it's laughable the tone on here that if you don't have a starting spot by the time you're a sophomore, that means you suck and might as well write them off.

Collin Miller can be a very good player, maybe Dismuke can be, though I haven't seen as much from him yet as I've seen from Miller. If either of these guys earns a starting spot, I'm confident they will be just as good as the guys they were replacing and probably better.
 

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My take on Young is that he was the opposite of a "gamer". I think he must have played his best football in the spring and fall preseason practices. He always impressed his coaches and won the starting job, but he in games he seemed to be a step slow, make mental mistakes and didn't always play with great effort.
It happens. On my high school teams some kids seemed more interested in impressing the coaches in practice than they did getting up for games. I imagine it happens on college teams too.
 

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Nick Henrich looks like a gamer on film and I hope he can get some good S&C work in. I could see him becoming a solid contributor right away since he’ll learn during spring ball. Hannah will just be a little behind on the learning curve.
 

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I'm actually not too worried about linebacker. On the outside, Domann & Dixon and Ferguson & Tanner give us some decent returners there. On the inside, Berry & Honas figure to start. The issue on the inside is depth. But we've got some highly touted newcomers coming into the mix.

Jackson Hannah projects to be a great inside linebacker, but he may help us more early on as a backup outside linebacker who can rush off the edge. Since we're thin on the inside, I doubt that happens.

Not sure why Garrett Nelson is projected as an outside linebacker. Pretty tough for a high school defensive lineman to move up a level and be asked to run with backs and receivers in pass coverage. But he is a great pass rush prospect on a team that does not have a pass rush, so maybe they will use him effectively somehow in that capacity.
 

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I'm actually not too worried about linebacker. On the outside, Domann & Dixon and Ferguson & Tanner give us some decent returners there. On the inside, Berry & Honas figure to start. The issue on the inside is depth. But we've got some highly touted newcomers coming into the mix.

Jackson Hannah projects to be a great inside linebacker, but he may help us more early on as a backup outside linebacker who can rush off the edge. Since we're thin on the inside, I doubt that happens.

Not sure why Garrett Nelson is projected as an outside linebacker. Pretty tough for a high school defensive lineman to move up a level and be asked to run with backs and receivers in pass coverage. But he is a great pass rush prospect on a team that does not have a pass rush, so maybe they will use him effectively somehow in that capacity.

You have more confidence than most do in this group, including me. Domann has shown only flashes and a long ways from consistency, Dixon didn't even get in his allowed 4 games when we were starving for an edge rusher, Ferguson could be the answer, time will tell, Tanner will get his shot as a youngster but didn't seem to make many big splashes last year. On the inside, Berry is without doubt the best we have and the clear leader, Honas is coming off knee surgery. Miller is going to fit in somewhere and then you are going to rely on a group of freshmen to man one of the most difficult positions in football to play. Who is going to be the edge rusher in this group? Dixon was labeled with that but he has gone into the witness protection program. Teams will attack this group regularly. How they respond will go a long ways for a successful season next year.
 
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It is hard to imagine our defense being worse than last season or the season before, but I can't really see this group stepping up and just being better all of a sudden. We can't stop the run and give up way too many 3rd down conversions. I don't see how that changes..

We are recruiting the right kinds of players, but I hope the coaches are given the time to develop those players. I see us trending water this year on D.
 
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It is hard to imagine our defense being worse than last season or the season before, but I can't really see this group stepping up and just being better all of a sudden. We can't stop the run and give up way too many 3rd down conversions. I don't see how that changes..

We are recruiting the right kinds of players, but I hope the coaches are given the time to develop those players. I see us trending water this year on D.

Yes, it very well might take a couple of years to right the ship. But a marginal improvement this year is quite possible I hope. Especially giving up 3rd & longs everywhere.....if we can cut that down it would help a lot.