Special teams quote - from Dewitt
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Once again blaming the players. It is special teams, important yes, but let's not act like we don't have the athletes to make plays.
Sorry, not a fan of this sort of talk from coaches.
Sorry, not a fan of this sort of talk from coaches.
Yeah, not really a confidence builder if you are trying to get guys to believe in themselves. Which I think there sure has been/might still be a lack of on this team.
Since this is the case, fair catch every kickoff and punt. Reduce penalties that way. At least don’t start in a hole like we always do.
We have enough athletes to perform at an above average level on special teams. I don't buy that.
I agree with you on this one. Pretty much saying “just about everyone on this team sucks.” For most things, it’s not what you say that matters, but rather, it’s how you say it. Not a good way to say it coach.
Agree with Tuco. It's not possible or necessary to "send a message" with every answer to a question. Just answer the question, whatever it was. You can't challenge the players' ability, desire and intelligence at every turn, sooner or later it just becomes static.
edit: And I'm not blame the media guy, but it makes me laugh that the OWH guy calls this the "money quote". Ridiculous.
edit: And I'm not blame the media guy, but it makes me laugh that the OWH guy calls this the "money quote". Ridiculous.
coach the players you have rather than repeatedly lamenting about the players you don't have .... to the media
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I'm not sure it's a bash at their talent so much as it is a bash on their ability to translate that talent to making plays on game day. It takes a special kind of mindset to play special teams. We had a kid a few years ago who was an absolute beast on special teams and it wasn't because he was the biggest or fastest guy on the team. He just played with complete disregard for his own safety. I can't remember his name now. Linebacker that when Bo talked about him after signing day he just said, "this guy. This guy". I think he's still on an NFL roster and plays on special teams. I'm not sure we have all that many of "this guy"s on this team right now on defense or special teams and that's not to say that they don't have the physical talent to do it. IMO, we're reading WAY too much in to every single utterance from our coaches.
well him too but this kid had a little more pigment and was from California if I remember correctly. Linebacker. Absolute beast but he did have a tendency to get a few personal fouls. Vicious hitter.
I don't care what DeWitt has to say. I'm waiting for Wilber, Clatonia and Beatrice to weigh in.
Eric Martin.
He also had a blocked punt that helped win the Baylor game, but couldn't find it. He was a special teams beast.
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You don’t have to be a star athlete to not block in the back on a punt or kickoff return. We do this time and again and it’s truly boneheaded!
Yep. I just thought of it and was going to post it. THAT guy.
Ed Cunningham disagrees.
He could make a returner be a little more tentative on a return. Rigoni was another great name. He had a way of making tackles on special teams that he shouldn't have and it wasn't because he was the most athletically gifted guy on the field. Great special teamer and we could use a guy like Rigoni right now.
Say what you want, that dude had the best hands I've ever seen in person. He made some impossible punt catches look easy.
Never found out what he had for feet though. Agreed he caught dang near everything just never advanced many/any.
I don't think these coaches care about who likes what or whos feelings they hurt. They are going to say it like it is. Saban is pretty in your face/ say it like it is coach as well. If a kid is playing awesome and do great they are going to praise them. If they are playing like **** and making mistakes they aren't afraid to say it. I think we have become to use to Mike, extra sprinkles, Riley and everyone is awesome talk.
Just by being able to catch the ball, he saved us a TREMENDOUS amount of field position and possessions. We literally had nobody else who could catch a punt. Just imagine if Callahan had offered Danny Woodhead and let him return punts.
It isn't about feelings. It isn't even about playing like **** and making mistakes and being afraid to say anything. It's about everything being the player's fault. The players didn't execute, the players don't have the ability to play special teams, the players aren't buying in, the players this, the players that. At some point, as coaches, when we continue to fail, regardless of who is in the game, doesn't some of the blame fall back on us.
Hey, it's already a gloomy day. Now you had to bring that up
There was this today from practice:
***Inside linebackers coach Barrett Ruud said he feels like Dedrick Young has played OK this season, and the mistakes Young has made this year are more Ruud’s fault than anyone. Ruud said he needed to do a better job of getting his guys more prepared.
fair enough ... then it must also be assumed that the staff was also "telling like it is" when this summer they were talking about competing right away and how we had as much, if not more talent, than the UCF team they inherited.
Interesting how in certain instances people claim the coaches are going to tell it like it is but in other instances you get the excuse of coach speak and "well, what were they supposed to say"
Hey I didn't bring up Santino's name. I just remember having to defend the kid when people bashed him on here. I caught a few punts back in the day and I can tell you that it ain't as easy as some think it should be.
And UCF playing mostly weaker competition than we've face their first year still lost 6 games. Obviously we were overly optimistic based on the undefeated season and should have been looking more at their first season and all the mistakes their players made. UCF did have several draftees off of last years team. How many seniors and juniors do you think we'll have drafted off of this team this year? I'm guessing only Stanley Morgan.
Sometime if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it is just a duck. No point in calling it a swan because that may look better. Nothing more nothing less. Lets face it this team wasn't a good team last year. It isn't like we were a 9 or 10 win team and now 0-5 and Frost and co are blaming the players. No, that wouldn't fly with most of us.
I agree these coaches could do a bit better job in using the talent we have. I don't think much changes as far as the result on the field. I think we could have Saban here and still be in that 1-4 or 2-3 boat. I think Frost is in the mindset of all or nothing. Now if we start getting into next year and on and they are still using that excuse then we can call BS.
I think they honestly believed what they were saying. The problem is when **** players play against **** players, one side always comes out looking great. When we actually faced decent/ good teams they then realize how bad it really was. Perfect example was Bell. How he look so good in practice. Yeah he did against our crappy D. Then he can't do **** against a D with a pulse.
Why isn't that the money quote? Ruud appears to be the only one that does this, but of course, he keeps putting Young out there, when every former player tweets that he is making the wrong read on almost every play. And nearly every poster on here opines that he sucks and needs to be replaced.
At UCF their first year, they had a fair number of guys who started the year as starters who weren't by the end of the year. We'll see where this deal goes with Young. IMO, he wouldn't be starting now if Honas hadn't gotten hurt.
Ahh. In hindsight, Woodhead made a great choice for him in going to Chadron.
So if they can't tell **** players from other **** players, how are they going to evaluate all the diamonds in the rough from Class D-2 football? Come on that is a cop out. They knew then what they had then and what they have now. You can't say they thought they had buy in in June, then turn around in September and blame the 0-5 on players that quit and didn't buy in. It's ok to say they aren't perfect. But the Saban comparisons didn't work for Riley and they aren't going to work for Frost.....yet.