Something I look forward to seeing

[higgins3]

Next year having two capable point guards in Sanders and Johnson. Sanders won't be running 36 minutes a game. Johnson is a Myles Mack type of player that seem to match his play with Heart.


I look forward to this year as well and seeing Diallo progress into someone who can play a good role.

 

[higgins3]

http://seoj.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball/nh/wolfeboro/brewster-academy/aaren-smith

I like this kids game as well. http://seoj.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball/nh/wolfeboro/brewster-academy/aaren-smith

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

. Sanders won't be running 36 minutes a game..

What makes you sure of this. I hope you are right.

 

[RU at the shore]

I agree, but only if you are talking about 2016-2017. Johnson has to sit out this season as a transfer. As such, we only have 1 point guard, Sanders, who will be playing 36 minutes a game and likely wearing down as the season goes on....

Backup PG is a BIG issue for us this year...

 

[MadRU]

Might gave to steal a few minutes here and there from Goode and Daniels, just to give Sanders a breather. Try around time out times.

 

[higgins3]

I am talking about next year. Ej has to find a way to limit sanders minutes to 25-30 a game. Id rather see mike williams or goode back there. Just dont put 36 on sanders his first year.

 

[Knights 1212]

We definitely can not have Sanders play something like 32-36 minutes per game. I think about 28 is where he should be. Goode, daniels and Williams I could hope all could play a few minutes as our point guard.

 

[batts]

That's a heavy burden for a true freshman. You should temper your expectations. There's a steep learning curve and physical adjustment for freshmen, particularly in a strong conference.

 

[Anon1751594821]

30-35 minutes per game for Sanders is fine. Why is he going to wear down if he plays more than 28 minutes?

I just looked at many of the Duke Box scores from last year. How come all of the Duke guards can mostly play 32-37 minutes per game?

With all of the TV timeouts, there is no reason that a "conditioned" player can't play 32 minutes a game. These are college kids, not 40 year old men.

Best of Luck,
Groz

 

[batts]

It's just not stamina. There's a steep learning curve for most freshmen point guards. Even McDonald AA's (e.g. Whitehead) need a year or two adjust. From what I've read, Sanders is a skilled and exciting player. I'm just cautioning some of you to temper expectations for the kid.

 

[RU at the shore]

Batts - Forget expectations, I'm saying he plays 36+ out of sheer necessity for our PG situation.

I can't see Goode or Daniels (who I like, but only at SG) giving us any real minutes at the PG this year.

 

[batts]

Hopefully he holds up for you guys. Sounds like Eddie should have brought in a Juco pg for depth.

We have depth problems at guard also. We can't afford an injury to either Whitehead or Carrington.

 

[BKIn118]

Daniels can spell Sanders at the point. People that are overlooking Mike Williams' contributions do so at their peril. I love that kid, and his shot is too good to not fall forever

 

[shields]

Think Williams will be good.

 

[RU at the shore]

I like Williams, of course. Bdodger says no way he can play PG minutes. Daniels is a good athletic sg, but very prone to t/o.

 

[MadRU]

Mike was my favorite player last year, just don't see him as a point guard. If he finds his shot again he will be a huge contributor this season, he does a lot of other things well, defense, hustle, makes the extra pass, keeps the ball moving, etc. good basketball IQ.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Agree about Daniels getting some PG minutes. Daniels was turnover prone last year, but that doesn't mean he won't improve in his 2nd year. We want the best 5 on the floor as much as we can. That might mean Daniels getting minutes at both 1 and 2. He has ability.

 

[higgins3]

30-35 minutes per game for Sanders is fine. Why is he going to wear down if he plays more than 28 minutes?

I just looked at many of the Duke Box scores from last year. How come all of the Duke guards can mostly play 32-37 minutes per game?

With all of the TV timeouts, there is no reason that a "conditioned" player can't play 32 minutes a game. These are college kids, not 40 year old men.

Best of Luck,
Groz

We are not duke.

 

[higgins3]

Batts - Forget expectations, I'm saying he plays 36+ out of sheer necessity for our PG situation.

I can't see Goode or Daniels (who I like, but only at SG) giving us any real minutes at the PG this year.

I don't think theyll give real minutes. Asking 7 minutes out of Goode and 24 minutes out of Williams isn't a huge commitment. Williams is solid and can handle the ball. Goode is unproven but played full time 38+ plus at his hs. Running Sanders at 36+ a game is a recipe for freshman turnovers.

 

[higgins3]

Hopefully he holds up for you guys. Sounds like Eddie should have brought in a Juco pg for depth.

We have depth problems at guard also. We can't afford an injury to either Whitehead or Carrington.

All i hope to see out of Sanders is 8-10ppg, 2 turnovers, and 3-4 assist. If he can do that, I would be extremely happy.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We are not duke.

Jordan often played only 5 guys entire halves. Jordan showed last year that he'll either keep his best 5 out there or forget to substitute.

 

[LC-88]

30-35 minutes per game for Sanders is fine. Why is he going to wear down if he plays more than 28 minutes?

I just looked at many of the Duke Box scores from last year. How come all of the Duke guards can mostly play 32-37 minutes per game?

With all of the TV timeouts, there is no reason that a "conditioned" player can't play 32 minutes a game. These are college kids, not 40 year old men.

Best of Luck,
Groz

Dook players spend alot of time resting at the foul line.

 

[Anon1751594821]

Higgins, I wouldn't have known we are not Duke if you hadn't mentioned it. You are one of our most loyal fans. I hope you keep your positive attitude and you are finally rewarded in your lifetime with a good Rutgers team one of these years.

The problem over many of these past recent years is that the "few" Rutgers Basketball fans that there are, usually seem to overrate the incoming talent each year. Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, Sanders has much more talent and personality than anyone we have recruited in years. Rosario came in being a McDonalds All American, but he was truly overrated as a player mostly because he came from St. Anthony's.

I'm betting that if Sanders can keep his head on straight and stay out of trouble that he will be a real good player from the beginning. Let's hope I am not falling into the "trap" of overrating Sanders. There are some reasons that he was not more heavily recruited by the powerful schools and luckily for us he became a Scarlet Knight.

Best of Luck,
Groz

 

[higgins3]

Jordan often played only 5 guys entire halves. Jordan showed last year that he'll either keep his best 5 out there or forget to substitute.

It was a big sample size. Truth is, now we might have sufficient players to come in and be alright as a backup pg. Lat year we had hyde, and MWilliams wasn't looked to do that. I hope to see a change in that this year.

 

[higgins3]

Higgins, I wouldn't have known we are not Duke if you hadn't mentioned it. You are one of our most loyal fans. I hope you keep your positive attitude and you are finally rewarded in your lifetime with a good Rutgers team one of these years.

The problem over many of these past recent years is that the "few" Rutgers Basketball fans that there are, usually seem to overrate the incoming talent each year. Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, Sanders has much more talent and personality than anyone we have recruited in years. Rosario came in being a McDonalds All American, but he was truly overrated as a player mostly because he came from St. Anthony's.

I'm betting that if Sanders can keep his head on straight and stay out of trouble that he will be a real good player from the beginning. Let's hope I am not falling into the "trap" of overrating Sanders. There are some reasons that he was not more heavily recruited by the powerful schools and luckily for us he became a Scarlet Knight.

Best of Luck,
Groz

Groz, didn't mean to shoot it off that way. I just thought putting duke in the same sentence as our pgd was confusing. They usually get a really smart pg. One that can run 36 minute with only two turnovers. I am not for running down players uness they can handle it. Mack last year showed he was gassed some possessions. Sanders shot is definitely falling a lot more these days. Good for him. I hope he blows the roof off the RAC this year.

 

[TruJerz_rivals]

As I've said before, I think Goode is best suited for the backup PG role from what I've seen but I believe those minutes will likely go to Williams assuming Daniels and Sanders start in the backcourt with Williams being the first guard off the bench. Williams can defend the PG position well but I just haven't seen him display much PG skills on offense even in his HS days. He's an off guard. Goode and Daniels on the other hand played PG before but neither are what you'd consider floor generals either

I think Sanders will have to play around 30 minutes a game

 

[RUAEPI]

Jordan played guys purely out of necessity the last couple of years. Though younger, we have a lot more depth this year, and it makes no sense not to play as many guys as possible to get experience. The younger guys will be the core of this team in a couple of years and with stronger influx in the next couple of recruiting seasons, will be expected to compete and win in the B1G in 2 years. This year should be about implementing a new system, finding the right combination of players, and playing the hot hand.

Higgins....I agree with you. If Sanders gives us 8-3-4 with 2 to's, I'll be very happy.

 

[higgins3]

As I've said before, I think Goode is best suited for the backup PG role from what I've seen but I believe those minutes will likely go to Williams assuming Daniels and Sanders start in the backcourt with Williams being the first guard off the bench. Williams can defend the PG position well but I just haven't seen him display much PG skills on offense even in his HS days. He's an off guard. Goode and Daniels on the other hand played PG before but neither are what you'd consider floor generals either

I think Sanders will have to play around 30 minutes a game

Part of the reason why Williams would be okay handling the ball is because he doesn't overdribble. I know what you are saying with him being an offguard though. I just want the ball in hands of people who want turn it off. Mwill had 2nd least turnovers on the team last year.

Daniels has great potential.More often that not though last year he would overdribble. If you invest inthe trend of overdribbling these days you will become a multi millionaire. Pass out of the back and keep the ball in the hands of those who can protect it. Jgoode might get his chance there as a backup to Sanders. I could also see him playing off the ball. I always thought Daniels was good off the bench. I like Mwill because he can contribute on both sides. .

 

[higgins3]

Jordan played guys purely out of necessity the last couple of years. Though younger, we have a lot more depth this year, and it makes no sense not to play as many guys as possible to get experience. The younger guys will be the core of this team in a couple of years and with stronger influx in the next couple of recruiting seasons, will be expected to compete and win in the B1G in 2 years. This year should be about implementing a new system, finding the right combination of players, and playing the hot hand.

Higgins....I agree with you. If Sanders gives us 8-3-4 with 2 to's, I'll be very happy.

A system based on the strengths that the team already has. I like the nucleus that is building between the Mwill and Foreman. Like you, I am hopeful for the future. Make no mistake though, Coach Jordan needs some wins this year to land better classes. I thought we would have been in a good position to land Jenkins. Truth is, we need some wins.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Again, you have a team that scored less than 60 per game, shot less than 40%, won only 10 games, and has now lost its top scorers and rebounders. This has all the markings of an ugly season. As a dedicated fan, there's always hope and interest that revives in the off-season as you consider new recruits and that returning players are a year older and more experienced. But that can fade quickly as the games start getting played. And, here, one of the things that will likely become quickly evident is that, as bad as last year's team was, a lot has been lost from that team and there was a reason that those departing players were playing more than others. This team might score less than even last year's, which is saying a lot.

 

[bac2therac]

And in comes Willis with a dose of reality...you are right Willis. The loss of Mack and Jack is going to be underestimated. I believe scoring is going to be a huge concern this year. Sure we can spread the wealth but developing consistency is the issue. I see Sanders playing a lot...well over 30 minutes simply because he has to

 

[TDIrish1]

Daniels has great potential ?

 

[MADHAT1]

Hopefully ball handling will improve resulting in more scoring options
Jack didn't score like expected and that was a problem last year, Mack did a good job but ball distribution wasn't one of his strengths.
Etou wasn't an offensive force, though some might have found is attitude offensive at times.
When you're worried about losing a little over 33 points between 3 players ( 13.4 >13.0 & 7.4) you might be worrying needlessly about losing last years gunners that would bring the Ws this season
Last season there wasn't a true #1, this year there is ( though shouldn't expect too much from a freshman)
Daniels was in his first year on team , while Williams and Forman were true freshmen
Shaq D was also a new player in his true freshman year
This season RU will have those 4 players back with a year in Jordan's system, along with Diallo & Goode who redshirted last year.
Add Freeman from the JUCO ranks and RU might be a better balanced team this season with more scoring potential, while adding Grier's experience and possibly having true freshman provide quality wing depth and show scoring ability.

Rutgers lost good players when Jack , Mack and Etou , but not irreplaceable offensive threats and both Jack and Etou didn't play as good as expected last year,.
If anyone also worries about the rebounds lost with Jack and Etou's departure , RU lost 6.4 per game with Jack and 6.6 with Etou. Mack had 4.0 per game .
I think Jack and Etou's rebounding can be easily matched along with their offensive numbers.
RU might have a better offense with the players it has this year, compared to last year's squad

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

And in comes Willis with a dose of reality...you are right Willis. The loss of Mack and Jack is going to be underestimated. I believe scoring is going to be a huge concern this year. Sure we can spread the wealth but developing consistency is the issue. I see Sanders playing a lot...well over 30 minutes simply because he has to

Let's be real honest here. Kadeem Jack was terrible last year on both ends of the court. Myles Mack wasn't great offensively and was a joke defensively. I understand they are freshman. If they (Freeman and Sanders) have decent potential they will be upgrades to Mack and Jack on day 1.

 

[MadRU]

It will be interesting to see how having a true point guard will influence the offense. Early word is that Sanders has impressed with ball distribution. Also can the defense take a step up and lead to some easier points.

Too many unknowns to tell at this point, but enough potential to make one interested in this team.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Good luck with that.

 

[TruJerz_rivals]

Kadeem Jack did struggle last season and was a bit of a disappointment mainly due to injuries early on but its not that easy to replace a guy with that size and skill level. However, I do think Freeman has similar abilities to Jack and is coming in with experience already so its possible he can fill that void from day 1

 

[MADHAT1]

Kadeem Jack did struggle last season and was a bit of a disappointment mainly due to injuries early on but its not that easy to replace a guy with that size and skill level. However, I do think Freeman has similar abilities to Jack and is coming in with experience already so its possible he can fill that void from day 1

True replacing Jack's size and skill level will be hard to do, but not his production and that's what is being replaced.
Mack , in my opinion, will be harder to replace because of the way he gave his all.
Etou's play and attitude is the easiest to replace of the three .
RU might have a better team this year with the RS freshmen coming in Freeman from the JUCO ranks Grier a 5th year senior's presence in locker-room and experience .Also the experience Williams & Shaq D gained playing as freshman and the freshmen coming in now that probably will play right away.
Not to mention Daniels with one year in Jordan's system might play better because of that experience.

 

[TruJerz_rivals]

True replacing Jack's size and skill level will be hard to do, but not his production and that's what is being replaced.
Mack , in my opinion, will be harder to replace because of the way he gave his all.
Etou's play and attitude is the easiest to replace of the three .
RU might have a better team this year with the RS freshmen coming in Freeman from the JUCO ranks Grier a 5th year senior's presence in locker-room and experience .Also the experience Williams & Shaq D gained playing as freshman and the freshmen coming in now that probably will play right away.
Not to mention Daniels with one year in Jordan's system might play better because of that experience.

Good points. I really hope RU's coaching staff spent time working to Doorson's game. I'd hate to see that kid transfer out because he wasn't utilized properly here. I hope he plays more this season. Could be huge for them if he can give them 12-15 minutes a night behind Lewis

 

[treauRU]

Jack was horrible defensively. He was a absolute liability most nights. I've never seen
A Senior that lost, so often. Definitely addition by subtraction.
Offensively he had talents, but he would not be effective in the system we will run this year.
I have no idea what we will be as a whole, but the parts look ( and I suspect we have more working parts this year ) better suited to play TOGETHER. I've said it before, if Diallo and Doorson can catch and finish at the basket above the rim we will be a tough out.