So, if you are Dana
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Just keep moving the chains on offense. Who gives a f’uck if it’s by running or throwing. We can’t seem to figure that out.
I sure hope Qualls and Ferns are ready to play at linebacker and I hope Campbell returns.
I sure hope Qualls and Ferns are ready to play at linebacker and I hope Campbell returns.
To add, put up 41 poiints.
Gibson gave up 45.
Those are the most important stats.
Stupid is as stupid does. His play calling Stunck in 2nd half. Played not to lose instead of win. Fire both of them.
I know someone has a man crush on Spav, but the offense didn't really do anything in the second half. Is that Gibson's fault? Gibson personally gave up 600?
actually, T Bone........ you moron............ he didn't play "not to lose"
He called plays down-field when we could have run more clock....................... the problem was dropped passes by Jennings, Sills and McKoy as well as Grier rolling out for no reason and fumbling in yet another event of him holding the ball way too long.
We moved the ball at will............... we blew it in the red zone with that fumble and the 4th and 1 where Wesco and our interior line got knocked on their asses.
In Wesco's defense, he made up for it with a great catch later.
Blaming coaching for footballs bouncing off our face masks in the end zone or our QB coughing it up when all he had to do was throw it away..................... is just moronic.
Hold the playmakers accountable for ONCE
stupid.
Our OC has produced another top 10 offense for WVU
Hell, WVU is 26th in the nation is total offense...................... despite missing one complete game from our schedule, lol
That might be the best selling point for Jake Spavital right there.
Top 10 in yards/game
Top 5 in passing yards/game
Top 20 in total points scored AGAIN DESPITE missing one complete game from our schedule
Top 10 in points/game
Top 5 in offensive efficiency
Only top 50 in 3rd down efficiency........... which to some likely is a negative, until your realize just how often WVU plays 4-down territory with their play calls...... and you see that WVU's offense is Top 10 in 4th down conversion percentage as well......
If you like video football instead of the real thing lol. Go back to marching with your tuba.
An OC's job is to produce yards and points.............
I get that you're about one paint-huffing session from being the even-more-retarded sibling in your family...................... but even that troll post was stupid for you
Spavital sucks. Rode Manziel and then got fired once he went to the NFL. The exact same thing will happen with Grier. The most infuriating thing with him is that he doesn't make adjustments once the other defense gets settled in.
Tony Gibson obviously sucks and needs to go.
Tony Gibson obviously sucks and needs to go.
Given OSU's performance on the road the week before, it should have been obvious that it wouldn't be enough. 10 points in the second half against that D is unacceptable.
Can't blame Spavital for Grier fumbling for no reason in the red zone.....
Can't blame Spavital for WRs dropping open passes on critical 3rd downs either.
Basically what you're saying is "Spav knows Gibson can't coach a defense, so 41 points/game isn't good enough"
so whose fault is it really here?
everyone knew the D was in for a long day....they've handled the bad offensive teams they've played and gotten smoked by the good ones. Gibby and crew got embarrassed in the second half and Spav's amazing offense got us a big 10 points. But I'll admit Keaton's correct that it's a couple drops and questionable fumble that shut the O down.
It's more of a scheme issue than it is execution by our coordinators. This game plan of if the D can get just get a couple of stops we will out score everyone is good and well until the offense had a bad half. With Dana's abilities on offense I would ditch the OC position and spend an embarrassing amount on a D coordinator. We have a better shot playing slower and ugly. That's how we got 10 wins with SH at QB.
It's more of a scheme issue than it is execution by our coordinators. This game plan of if the D can get just get a couple of stops we will out score everyone is good and well until the offense had a bad half. With Dana's abilities on offense I would ditch the OC position and spend an embarrassing amount on a D coordinator. We have a better shot playing slower and ugly. That's how we got 10 wins with SH at QB.
You seem a lot like pride304 post.
So the offense gets a pass because balls are dropped or hits a face mask. Blame for not scoring in redzone. But he puts down the defense even though they have lost a lot of the defense to injuries. Or that we are playing 180 pound LB's. Both sides didn't do their job. I see KC gets mad easy....
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Unless time is low, run the offense like it's the first possession. Drive down the field like you really need a score, but take what the defense gives you. If it's more runs and short passes, take it. If they give you good matchups for down field throws, take it. Act like every possession is a must score, but not a 2 minute drill unless it is actually less than 2 minutes. Because with our defense against a good offense, expect that you will need a TD of 75% or more possessions. Especially if lumbering QBs can run on us, Murray will have a field day.
ITT, T Bone is ride or die for the WV boy, Tony Gibson..............
our offense put up 41 points............. that's more than enough to win any game with even an AVERAGE defense.
and lol at pointing injuries to AVERAGE players in the first place. Who have we lost? Average players. And behind them? Average.
The injuries excuse for our defense is just that............. an excuse to not hold accountable our defensive coordinator whose scheme has been drug through the mud by this conference since he arrived.
You just posted it only takes an average defense to win. But then turn around and claim players are average.
I don't give 2 ***** if we keep Gibs or not. So put your pistol in your holster and continue pretending like you know something that you don't
So little lady what is your suggestion for a hire so you can stop bitching like a school girl?
So why have 2 or 3 profiles toeshoe? Isn't 1 enough for you on Rivals?
Easy.
Cinci's DC. Top 25 defense. Top 25 efficient defense. Top 25 running defense and passing defense.
https://gobearcats.com/coaches.aspx?rc=466&path=football
#11 in total defense - http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense
#12 in defensive efficiency - http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/sort/defEfficiency/tab/efficiency
#9 in rushing defense - http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...tal/position/defense/sort/rushingYardsPerGame
#22 in passing defense - http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...tal/position/defense/sort/passingYardsPerGame
kick Tony Gibson to the curb
Except when it really counts. Completely MIA against ISU, MIA the second half of TTU game, and stymied by a poor OSU defense in the second half. Pick 6 by the definitely bad, but not more deserving of derision than the offense, defense is the only thing keeping WVU from 0-3 in those games.
lol OSU did not stop WVU
WVU stopped WVU with dropped passes that hit our receivers in the hands and a dumb fumble by an otherwise great QB when he should have just thrown it away
It’s like people don’t actually watch the games here
WVU stopped WVU with dropped passes that hit our receivers in the hands and a dumb fumble by an otherwise great QB when he should have just thrown it away
It’s like people don’t actually watch the games here
Thank you for making my point. The veteran led strength of the team could not be effective against a seive defense. It was ineptitude on WVU's part and not a great defensive effort. But you can't use that to deflect from criticism toward coaching staff if you're going to heap all the blame on Gibson for D linemen and linebackers not maintaining discipline or gap control. The offense has stopped itself too often when the game was on the line. It can't all be players when its happened in at least 4 games.
Sure I can
It’s scheme failure vs execution failure
We have a top 10 offense and a top 75 defense right now.......
That indicates that one is clearly being coached horribly
It’s scheme failure vs execution failure
We have a top 10 offense and a top 75 defense right now.......
That indicates that one is clearly being coached horribly
You have a point Keatonscorner - we let Jake call the first half then tell him the
second half will be played on Saturday and send him home and let Dana call
plays the second half.
second half will be played on Saturday and send him home and let Dana call
plays the second half.
You got to be posting this stuff just to get folks to comment. Really. You, even you, clueless, can't be as empty headed as you seem. Again...really.
First, the defense was a known liability going into the game. It's like playing baseball knowing the 7, 8, 9 guys can't hit for crap, but you have 1-4 guys that you know can knock the cover off the ball so you plan on riding them. Then when they suck it up in crunch time, you go yell at the 7, 8, and 9 guys for being exactly what they've proven to be during the season and ignore the guys who did the opposite of what they've proven to be capable of doing.
Second, NCAA numbers.
1. Defense: WVU is currently 44th in scoring defense across the NCAA. That is with playing scoring offenses of OSU (14th), TTU (17th), Texas (41st), Baylor (77th), ISU (93rd), Kansas (99th), TCU (102nd), Tennessee (105th), KSU (117th). Average of 73.8 and median of 93
The WVU defense gave up more than 2 total scores to 14, 17, 41, 93, and 99 scoring offenses. In those games WVU held 14 to 14 points in a half, 17 to 10 points in a half, 41st to 13 points in a half, 93 to 10 points in a half, and 99 to 7 points in a half (gave up garbage time TD and 2pt conversion w/ 0:00 on clock). None of these games involved the other team winning going away. 99 forgivable. 93 an embarrassment. Other 3 games against top 50 scoring offenses.
2. Offense: WVU is currently 10th in scoring offense across the NCAA. That is with playing scoring defenses of ISU (25th), KSU (46th), TCU (50th), Texas (56th), Tennessee (66th), Kansas (84th), TTU (86th), Baylor (93rd), OSU (99th). Average 67.2 and median 66.
The WVU offense held to 2 scores or less in one half against 25, 46, 56, 66, 86, and 99. In those games WVU was held scoreless against 25 in second half being down by just one score at half, held to 14 against 46 in second half while going in up 21, held to 14 against 56 while trailing entire second half until last minute TD and 2pt conversion, held to 13 in the first half against 66th before catching fire 2nd half, held scoreless against 86 despite rallying to outscore the WVU offense yet be saved by defensive TD, held to 10 points against 99 while opposition rallies to outscore the WVU offense. Forgivable for 46 given being comfortably ahead and for 66 given it was the first half and they really turned it on when it mattered. Ultimately the WVU offense was held to 2 scores or less in the second half when the game was on the line against 25, 56, 86, 99. That is only one top 50 scoring defense and 2 below the NCAA average for scoring defenses.
The point is that when the WVU defense was expected to be a liability, it definitely was. When the WVU offense was needed to be and expected to be a strength … it was a liability.
Third, Big XII numbers.
WVU is 2/2 in scoring offense and scoring defense respectively. That is the best combination in the league. OU (1/7), ISU (7/1), Texas (5/5), TTU (4/7), OSU (3/10), TCU (9/4), KSU (10/3), Kansas (8/6), Baylor (6/9). So few teams play great defense in this league and no team is really good at both with the exception of perhaps WVU by the numbers.
Conclusion: When it is all thrown together, I think its a strong argument that because the offense has less injuries, the "better coaching," more talent, and more returning starters it is more damning that they have crapped the bed in critical situations against very beatable opposition 3 times as opposed to the defense not having any of the advantages mentioned above crapping the bed against only one very beatable opponent and the rest being at least top 50.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28/p2
http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdfs/football/2018OverallStats.pdf?&DB_OEM_ID=10410
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