So I went back and watched the play

Drebin

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Also, the baseball is the 1st thing listed in the rules under, "Equipment". Not arguable.

Definitely arguable. The umpire doesn't have to change out a baseball without looking at it and determining it's not fit for play.

Also, not even applicable. Plumlee didn't ask for time in a proper way. He just threw the ball away. I don't know why you're even arguing about this. You're wrong.
 

blacklistedbully

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Well I'm not wrong. You are just misunderstanding. Allow me to clarify. As I said before, I agree with most of what you posted before. What I was referring to in the referenced post was your comment that the ball itself is not, "equipment", or that it is at best arguable. That statement of yours was incorrect. I offered as proof the fact that the NCAA rule book lists the baseball as the first item under the section, "Equipment".

So, while we can legitimately debate whether or not Plumlee asked for time appropriately, and we can agree that he should have confirmed time was granted before tossing the ball, it is not debatable that the baseball is considered equipment per the rules. I never said the ump has to "change out a baseball without looking at it, etc". What I said is the rule states he SHALL grant a request for time due to a request for equipment change. Drebin, the rule does not say he can consider the request or think about it. It flat out says he shall call time when it requested if it is due to a request for equipment change.

"Shall" makes it non-optional for the ump.

We really aren't disagreeing on much here. More misunderstanding than disagreement. Not trying to be at all insulting to you...just defending my position as are you...respectfully.
 
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