SNAP on the way out?

[TarHeelEer]

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[Brushy Bill]

At first glance, I like it.

 

[Mntneer]

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The outrage over this suggestion is interesting. As millennials and younger individuals try more and more of these food delivery services, it's only a matter of time that they become more and more common place. So a delivery method that many are willing to shell out money for is now considered racist or inadequate. Nevermind that it may actually benefit those that are unable to make it to local markets to use their food stamps to personally purchase food items. One person said, "We should be allowed to choose which food we are going to buy.", but the answer to that is... "You're getting free food, you should be a little more thankful you're even getting it."

I would think at some point, even the food stamp program needs to catch up with trends and technology.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)

White House proposes delivering food boxes instead of food stamps
https://www.cnbc.com/.../white-house-proposes-delivering-food-boxes-instead-of-foo...
16 hours ago - The White House said the new boxes would go to households qualifying for $90 or more per month in food stamps, representing about 81 percent of those participating in what is formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Currently, SNAP recipients can choose what they spend the ...


Trump pitches plan to replace food stamps with food boxes - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/.../food-stamps-trump-administration-343245
1 day ago - The budget suggests providing SNAP recipients a monthly box of nonperishable items, which the administration compared to meal-delivery kits.

 

[atlkvb]

The outrage over this suggestion is interesting. As millennials and younger individuals try more and more of these food delivery services, it's only a matter of time that they become more and more common place. So a delivery method that many are willing to shell out money for is now considered racist or inadequate. Nevermind that it may actually benefit those that are unable to make it to local markets to use their food stamps to personally purchase food items. One person said, "We should be allowed to choose which food we are going to buy.", but the answer to that is... "You're getting free food, you should be a little more thankful you're even getting it."

I would think at some point, even the food stamp program needs to catch up with trends and technology.

I'd tie all SNAP assistance to merit based need. If you are disabled or simply cannot work, face sudden or devastating economic hardship, or become unemployed through no fault of your own then I favor some sort of either emergency temporary or limited permament assistance subject to review of your circumstances on a regular basis.

If you are able bodied, irresponsible, refuse to work, or simply cannot hold a job or find employment because you have no marketable job skills as a hirable, valuable employee, then you are on your own and you can't expect taxpayers to subsidize your worthless existence.

 

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[mule_eer]

The outrage over this suggestion is interesting. As millennials and younger individuals try more and more of these food delivery services, it's only a matter of time that they become more and more common place. So a delivery method that many are willing to shell out money for is now considered racist or inadequate. Nevermind that it may actually benefit those that are unable to make it to local markets to use their food stamps to personally purchase food items. One person said, "We should be allowed to choose which food we are going to buy.", but the answer to that is... "You're getting free food, you should be a little more thankful you're even getting it."

I would think at some point, even the food stamp program needs to catch up with trends and technology.

I'm not outraged ny the idea. I don't see how it will be a true cost savings though. The overhead for this strikes me as being expensive. They may be able to buy food for less than retail, but storing, shipping, etc is going to add to the government's cost. I really think it's a wash at best.

Also, I don't believe this is intended to be a true ship to recipient plan. This is going to be a distribution center pick up. You aren't helping the person who can't get to the store. Now that person has to carry a month's worth of canned goods and non-perishables home.

I'll say this. If they can figure it out with it being more cost effective to feed the needy, I'll be excited about it. Honestly, I can't see it working out though, at least not at a net savings to the government.

 

[bamaEER]

I'm not outraged ny the idea. I don't see how it will be a true cost savings though.

Agreed. Let's do a benefit analysis first before trashing the existing system. Biff tends to get all cart and no horse when anything pops into his head.

 

[Mntneer]

I'm not outraged ny the idea. I don't see how it will be a true cost savings though. The overhead for this strikes me as being expensive. They may be able to buy food for less than retail, but storing, shipping, etc is going to add to the government's cost. I really think it's a wash at best.

Also, I don't believe this is intended to be a true ship to recipient plan. This is going to be a distribution center pick up. You aren't helping the person who can't get to the store. Now that person has to carry a month's worth of canned goods and non-perishables home.

I'll say this. If they can figure it out with it being more cost effective to feed the needy, I'll be excited about it. Honestly, I can't see it working out though, at least not at a net savings to the government.

My fear of a program like that is spoil.

 

[bamaEER]

My fear of a program like that is spoil.

I see lots of problems with it.

 

[Keyser76]

Lol, that'll save billions, ya'lls hands get tired from patting yourself on the back?

 

[dave]

It is a Trump plan so it is automatically racist.

 

[mule_eer]

The outrage over this suggestion is interesting. As millennials and younger individuals try more and more of these food delivery services, it's only a matter of time that they become more and more common place. So a delivery method that many are willing to shell out money for is now considered racist or inadequate. Nevermind that it may actually benefit those that are unable to make it to local markets to use their food stamps to personally purchase food items. One person said, "We should be allowed to choose which food we are going to buy.", but the answer to that is... "You're getting free food, you should be a little more thankful you're even getting it."

I would think at some point, even the food stamp program needs to catch up with trends and technology.

Just so you know, roughly a third of the cost of Blue Apron is delivery.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Lol, that'll save billions, ya'lls hands get tired from patting yourself on the back?

Never. I do special yoga classes and CrossFit to ensure I have the stamina to never tire.

**I don’t do CrossFit.

 

[Airport]

Just so you know, roughly a third of the cost of Blue Apron is delivery.

Hard for cheaters to traffic in nuts and berries.

 

[Keyser76]

It is a Trump plan so it is automatically racist.

Trump idea, he has no plan for it.

 

[dave]

Trump idea, he has no plan for it.

Good lord now the flunkies are gonna parse words.

 

[roadtrasheer]

My fear of a program like that is spoil.

Yes a program like this will cause a lot of spoil ..the program is called welfare & will cause people to be spoiled .
I like the idea of being able to take care of the needy just don't like to be used

 

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[Boomboom521]

I'm not outraged ny the idea. I don't see how it will be a true cost savings though. The overhead for this strikes me as being expensive. They may be able to buy food for less than retail, but storing, shipping, etc is going to add to the government's cost. I really think it's a wash at best.

Also, I don't believe this is intended to be a true ship to recipient plan. This is going to be a distribution center pick up. You aren't helping the person who can't get to the store. Now that person has to carry a month's worth of canned goods and non-perishables home.

I'll say this. If they can figure it out with it being more cost effective to feed the needy, I'll be excited about it. Honestly, I can't see it working out though, at least not at a net savings to the government.

The volume would help get costs down for whatever company is used. But it’s a pretty expensive service. We used Green Chef for a while, but it wasn’t cost efficient for our household.

 

[roadtrasheer]

Wow just think of the diabetes & toothloss caused from that bill

 

[boomerwv]

We used to do something similar and stopped. Anybody else remember government cheese?

Fact is that it is cheaper to just use the snap cards. This plan would need to include costs of storage, spoil, and delivery. Besides that, using the cards puts that money back into local economies instead of just handing billions to a few conglomerate suppliers. This plan isn't racist on its own, but it has a lot of potential to be nepotistic. I'm sure a lot of major donors would love to get those supply contracts.

 

[Boomboom521]

We used to do something similar and stopped. Anybody else remember government cheese?

Fact is that it is cheaper to just use the snap cards. This plan would need to include costs of storage, spoil, and delivery. Besides that, using the cards puts that money back into local economies instead of just handing billions to a few conglomerate suppliers. This plan isn't racist on its own, but it has a lot of potential to be nepotistic. I'm sure a lot of major donors would love to get those supply contracts.

Great points

 

[dave]

We used to do something similar and stopped. Anybody else remember government cheese?

Fact is that it is cheaper to just use the snap cards. This plan would need to include costs of storage, spoil, and delivery. Besides that, using the cards puts that money back into local economies instead of just handing billions to a few conglomerate suppliers. This plan isn't racist on its own, but it has a lot of potential to be nepotistic. I'm sure a lot of major donors would love to get those supply contracts.

The states would administer it. It would be different in each state just like it is now. It would also help local farmers.

 

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[Boomboom521]

The states would administer it. It would be different in each state just like it is now. It would also help local farmers.

I like the idea of helping local farmers, and in many areas it would work well. But in others it would be logistically very tough to prevent spoil and waste.

 

[roadtrasheer]

Even if they don't go in this direction I do think certain foods should be banned & wish we could do something with the waste

 

[TarHeelEer]

I like the idea of helping local farmers, and in many areas it would work well. But in others it would be logistically very tough to prevent spoil and waste.

If they drill it down from states to counties to communities, and tie in the local food banks, nothing will go to waste.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

If they drill it down from states to counties to communities, and tie in the local food banks, nothing will go to waste.

lol. YAY Big Government!! No waste! lmao.

 

[Boomboom521]

If they drill it down from states to counties to communities, and tie in the local food banks, nothing will go to waste.

It sounds great, and I’d respect the try...,even if it fails

 

[TarHeelEer]

lol. YAY Big Government!! No waste! lmao.

The food bank I contribute to could take in three times as much as they do now, and still not slow down. They not only do food distribution, but make those that receive prove they are looking for work, and even some "psychiatry" in lifting the person up to be a contributing factor in the community. If this is type of place where the food ends up going for distribution, rather than dropping it off on the doorstep, I love the plan.

 

[dave]

I like the idea of helping local farmers, and in many areas it would work well. But in others it would be logistically very tough to prevent spoil and waste.

Probably no less waste than there is now. A lot of people on SNAP get their cards and sell them for 50 cents on the dollar. The people who buy them dont need the assistance. It is ridiculous. I have a family member on snap and she used to get hounded online by folks offering to buy her snap card.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

The food bank I contribute to could take in three times as much as they do now, and still not slow down. They not only do food distribution, but make those that receive prove they are looking for work, and even some "psychiatry" in lifting the person up to be a contributing factor in the community. If this is type of place where the food ends up going for distribution, rather than dropping it off on the doorstep, I love the plan.

Right. And attaching a massive federal agency to it won't affect it at all. #humblebrag

Why not go full Soviet rations?

 

[Boomboom521]

The food bank I contribute to could take in three times as much as they do now, and still not slow down. They not only do food distribution, but make those that receive prove they are looking for work, and even some "psychiatry" in lifting the person up to be a contributing factor in the community. If this is type of place where the food ends up going for distribution, rather than dropping it off on the doorstep, I love the plan.

I think the area/logistics matter