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97Cougar said:
Heritage over Robbinsville by 6 mitchell over murphy by 2 point conversation.
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One of my buddies at work kids on this Heritage jvs team, he would always say there decent in rec league then middle school he said they're pretty good, I asked him last week how the looked, he said son they're F ing good, lol Heritage by 6 Mitchell by 2
 
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Purple1995 said:
In our conference cant move em up there 8th and ninth graders, I think it's an actual rule
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The only thing I can find in the NCHSAA rules is about the 9th-10th grade and then just mentions the 8 quarter rule. I've been confused about some of the rules, several told me that 7th graders had a choice between playing rec-league or JV but a grandfather of one of the JV players said he asked Mitchell county school office and they told him JV is only 8th & 9th graders, I don't if that's the same in each county or a state thing.
 
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Purple1995 said:
One of my buddies at work kids on this Heritage jvs team, he would always say there decent in rec league then middle school he said they're pretty good, I asked him last week how the looked, he said son they're F ing good, lol Heritage by 6 Mitchell by 2
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Yancey county is loaded with linemen from 7 to 9th grade . Probably best ever overall in yancey county . Biggest weakness in my opinion will be speed.
 
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Yancey county is loaded with linemen from 7 to 9th grade . Probably best ever overall in yancey county . Biggest weakness in my opinion will be speed.
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There is more speed there than you think, not only speed but the QB is one of those kids that’s hard to hit. Least watching him over the years he makes a lot of “speed” miss him. Very smart player far as reading the field.
 
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There is more speed there than you think, not only speed but the QB is one of those kids that’s hard to hit. Least watching him over the years he makes a lot of “speed” miss him. Very smart player far as reading the field.
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Guess what I was trying to say is no elite speed. We do have some good athletes. We have 2 solid jv quarterbacks. If Joey can keep the teams together we should be strong
 
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BK13T-$ said:
In the SMC and I think the WHC you can move up 9th graders at any time during the season but they cannot move back down.
The 8 quarter rule doesn't apply if you play Junior High ball.
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Not saying you're wrong because I don't know if you are or not but I can't find anything in writing in the nchsaa rule book concerning JR high 8th & 9th teams only JV's but under the 8 quarter rule it states...
"This is an allowable exemption from the rule counting dressing for a game as participation in
a varsity contest and will enable a junior varsity player (9th/10th graders only) to be avail-
able for emergency or lack of depth participation in the varsity contest"

I'm just wondering if it doesn't also apply to JR high teams then why do they emphasize ( 9th/10th graders only) if they're not intentionally ruling out 8th graders from participating? Just seems if all schools used the JV 9th -10th format then they wouldn't have to emphasize that. Also seems odd they don't address JR high teams with so many 1A schools using that format unless I've just missed it somewhere.
 
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BK13T-$ said:
I can ask someone that will definitely know.

I've never saw any 9th graders at Robbinsville move up then back down.
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Under the JV format I've seen a few freshmen be on the varsity team from the beginning but pretty much the only other time I've seen JV's with the varsity team is in the playoffs not sure how many times they've used the 8 quarter rule during the regular season.
Just seems unless there's a specific written rule that addresses 8th - 9th grade JR high I don't see how the nchsaa can keep the school from still using the 8 quarter rule for the 9th graders. But I assume that the SMC & WHC being the only two conferences using the format that they had to get permission from the nchsaa so maybe they where giving rules specific rules on the format when aproved.
 
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I can actually see more conferences going to this junior high route. With numbers declining over the next few years it makes it easier to field teams. You also eliminate the need for 1 more coach being that you eliminate middle school. With youth league numbers down across the board I believe school will either adopt the junior high or just give up jv
 
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Junior High Rulebook

BK is right that junior high is under the state BOE/DPI, just like middle school. I've linked the rule book that Junior High football follows. Bottom of page 8 I think is the relevant provision.

"6. Once a student begins practicing with a high school team, he/she may not, at a later date, move down to the seventh, eighth, or ninth grade (junior high school) team.

7. A ninth grade student beginning play with the junior high school team may, at a later date, move to the high school team, but could not return to the junior high school team."
 
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I don't see how going from having 2 middle school teams down to one team is beneficial it looks to me like it rewards the highschools that have 2 middle schools that all the sudden can't get enough kids interested to play in middle school 20 players is enough to field a team the games are short and they only played
6 to 8 games.
this new system makes no sense because if you can't field 2 middle school teams consolidate and make one team why punish the counties that can field 2 teams and how is this going from 2 middle school teams to one growing the game it's not it's rewarding the schools that can't get enough kids off there cell phones long enough to play football .that's my opinion and it's not changing. I though this was hog wash from the start.
it more than likely will really hurt Mountain Heritage, were the one school that keep most of our Sophmores down on JV and those kids got to play a 10 game schedule now those kids that could have been playing football are now setting on bench playing varsity makes no sense to me and never will how did we get here .
It makes perfect sense to the SMC conference but don't WHC conference schools except for Mitchell average over 200 more students than SMC . That's my 2cents worth
 
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I think this was something the WHC went to because of Rosman but although I see the points by Maverick and they are valid points, in the long haul it will be good for us all. Numbers for football are falling everywhere every year
 
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You could also see the advantage that the freshmen now have by playing while the sophomores are on Varsity.
 
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Mavrick69 said:
I don't see how going from having 2 middle school teams down to one team is beneficial it looks to me like it rewards the highschools that have 2 middle schools that all the sudden can't get enough kids interested to play in middle school 20 players is enough to field a team the games are short and they only played
6 to 8 games.
this new system makes no sense because if you can't field 2 middle school teams consolidate and make one team why punish the counties that can field 2 teams and how is this going from 2 middle school teams to one growing the game it's not it's rewarding the schools that can't get enough kids off there cell phones long enough to play football .that's my opinion and it's not changing. I though this was hog wash from the start.
it more than likely will really hurt Mountain Heritage, were the one school that keep most of our Sophmores down on JV and those kids got to play a 10 game schedule now those kids that could have been playing football are now setting on bench playing varsity makes no sense to me and never will how did we get here .
It makes perfect sense to the SMC conference but don't WHC conference schools except for Mitchell average over 200 more students than SMC . That's my 2cents worth
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That's worst thing for heritage football. Like it better with 2 middle schools. Now lot of kids will lose opportunity to play .
 
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The group that suffers is the 10th graders. Many will play little or not at all on the varsity level and now have no other games to gain experience.
 
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The group that suffers is the 10th graders. Many will play little or not at all on the varsity level and now have no other games to gain experience.
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That's a good point but I guess it also depends on the school, other Mitchell folks can correct me if I wrong but I believe the last few years our JV teams had become almost all freshmen anyway nearly all the sophomores where being moved up.
 
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