Smart from OSU just pushed a fan!

[hatfieldms]

I understand that they can't do it

But I don't blame them. What if a guy you work with happens to be black and one day someone walks into his office and starts hurling racial slurs at him. Should the guy just sit there and take it?

 

[Chappy.sixpack]

I may have done the same thing as Smart. As to your workplace question, I may physically respond as well in that scenario, but if I do, I am almost certainly going to be charged with assault and I'm guilty of it as well.

I don't like the idea of criminal charges being issued at sporting events so I would certainly hope that it doesn't come to that. I believe that there is some inherent assumption-of-the-risk when you get seats that close to the floor. All I'm saying is that the powers-that-be absolutely have to make a point to other players that this will not be tolerated -- period! Anything else is just asking for this same response from other players with those players then trying to justify their actions after the fact. You just can't send that type of signal.

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

It just can't happen...

It's NEVER justified for a player to get in a confrontation with a fan... if a fan is acting inappropriate, which would include yelling racial slurs, then it's up to the event staff to remove the person. For the safety of others in the building/ stadium this cannot happen. The player should have been ejected and the fan removed as well.

 

[hatfieldms]

I agree

Just a bad deal all around. It will be BS if it comes out what was said and TT does nothing to the fan

 

[Chappy.sixpack]

It will be BS if it comes out what was said and TT does nothing to the fan

If it is something very offensive (such as what Smart claimed he said), I agree 100%

 

[patdog]

Reportedly, the fan said "N***** go back to Africa." And yes, Texas Tech needs to catch all kinds of hell for this, especially since it's come out this isn't the first incident this fan has been involved in.

 

[DerHntr]

Reportedly, the fan said "N***** go back to Africa." And yes, Texas Tech needs to catch all kinds of hell for this, especially since it's come out this isn't the first incident this fan has been involved in.

If that is what he said, then I hope the TT basketball players want him gone too. Screw that guy.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

Apparently some people around him heard it and confirmed what Smart claimed. He's lucky he didn't get punched in the face...it would of been well deserved imo

 

[thatsbaseball]

he said "sorry you`re not my type"

 

[operch]

If that is what he said, then I hope the TT basketball players want him gone too. Screw that guy.

I think that is who should have the heart to heart with Mr Orr the TT team sans coach and the AD and OKS probably should suspend smart for one game just impress upon his mind that what he did will not be tolerated in the future and especially when he gets to NBA.

 

[boatsandhoes]

Dallas radio 105.3

Reportedly, the fan said "N***** go back to Africa." And yes, Texas Tech needs to catch all kinds of hell for this, especially since it's come out this isn't the first incident this fan has been involved in.

Reporting today that is what he said. Osu has press conference scheduled at 5 ish today. Problem is Smart is from flower mound marcus (north Dallas) so Orr hadn't done his research. Looks bad on both. Bad for tech on several levels.

 

[Shamoan]

dude is over the top, but its nice to see passion in college basketball. if this had happened at the hump, it would be nothing but shots of the crowd texting or some fat guy yawning.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

"How embarrassing for OSU, I would never push a fan to embarrass the school" added Renardo S.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

outside of it being some racist crap, i like this guy. if i was a 3 hour drive from starkville, i'd likely drive in for most if not all basketball games. we've heckled folks for having a "porn 'stache"... de-wayne shintzus for beating someone up with a tennis racket... folks for crap grades... you name it. don't really recall any racist stuff. i do recall having to remove a sign of mine that said "plain and simple, ole miss sucks". that's about as far out there. really tame by comparison.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

smart should lose his scholarship.


he should be banished to playing basketball in the correctional league for the next 40 years.


Orr should lose his citizenship, and have his home and multiple cars taken from him.



how about we just stop over-reacting to over-reacting?

 

[Bucky Dog]

Smart suspended for 3 games

NA

 

[DerHntr]

Orr says he called him "a piece of crap". Believable**

 

[FlotownDawg]

Except there is video that supports that. But hey, let's all call the guy a racist for no reason.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Hey, being PC is way more important than dealing with facts.

 

[DerHntr]

Except there is video that supports that. But hey, let's all call the guy a racist for no reason.

Lip reader?

And thatsbaseball, I am not being PC. I genuinely don't like racists. It isn't my fault you don't have the capacity to understand that.

It is believable that the guy said it considering Smart immediately was telling everyone he did and Orr didn't immediately come out denying it. I will concede that maybe Smart just thought he said it.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Accusing people of being racist before you know the facts is just as bad as being racist. I don`t read lips but I read people pretty good. How the hell do you think a rabid fan cheering for his own predominantly black basketball team could survive at court side lobbing n-bombs at opposing team`s black players. That never made a lick of sense but you guys indicted Orr automatically because he`s a white guy that a black guy got mad at. Now who is racist in this episode.

 

[DerHntr]

Accusing people of being racist before you know the facts is just as bad as being racist. I don`t read lips but I read people pretty good. How the hell do you think a rabid fan cheering for his own predominantly black basketball team could survive at court side lobbing n-bombs at opposing team`s black players. That never made a lick of sense but you guys indicted Orr automatically because he`s a white guy that a black guy got mad at. Now who is racist in this episode.

Within seconds Smart said he called him THE word. I didn't make that assumption on my own. Read the first post in this thread. Did I say he called him something racist? Nope.

And yes it is believable. I heard that word used plenty while at state during football and basketball and it wasn't in the 70s.

 

[prairiedawg]

I have been away from the interwebs for several days, read this thread from

start to finish after reading the aftermath of apologies on ESPN from both people involved and can only shake my head. So in some posters mind words=physical confrontation. What world do you live in? And it amazes me the people who just assumed the guy said something racial and if he did then it was ok to go after him. You have truly bought in to the pc crap that we are overloaded with. It's not ok to go into the stands after a fan, well, unless he uses a special word then it's ok. Do I have that right?

Not defending the guy in the stands, I dislike fans like him. Just go to the game, shout for you team but show some sportsmanship.

 

[prairiedawg]

But I don't blame them. What if a guy you work with happens to be black and one day someone walks into his office and starts hurling racial slurs at him. Should the guy just sit there and take it?

Then that person would be fired, it's a federal law for an employer to not allow harassment. Do you live under a rock?

 

[00Dawg]

I remember chanting "fairy, fairy" at Saul Smith, but that was the least PC chant from the 1996-97 season through spring of 2000.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

It was a quick push. If that is assault then we have a big problem with our judicial system. But, from what I read after the fact, the old white man called smart the "n" word. But since I don't want to sugar coat it, apparently he called him a ******. How is that for your little assault argument.

Actually, it wasn't assault because there was unwanted physical contact, therefore making it battery. If we're going to argue semantics, what the old, fat white guy did could possibly be considered assault.

 

[mstateglfr]

Smart is easily the greatest OSU player of all time, so this is like ~Jarvis landing in a crowd

For those of you who aren't aware, Smart is a top 5 pick.

Byron Houston, Big Country, Tony Allen, Joey Graham, and James Anderson would strongly disagree.
So would a bunch of white dudes from 60ish years ago, but they played in a different era of the game, so lets not even include em.


Smart is easily the greatest OSU basketball player of all time?