SIAP - Carriker interviews McBride

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I love hearing former successful coaches tell you what made them good. “I’m a pressure guy” McBride says. Geez Louise, is it really rocket science, Chinander? (Or should I say “3rd and Chinander”). If I’m this D coordinator I’m begging guys like McBride to come watch practices and give me honest feedback. Hello McFly? How much are these guys making again? Whatever it is, it’s way too much right now.
 

leodisflowers

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I love hearing former successful coaches tell you what made them good. “I’m a pressure guy” McBride says. Geez Louise, is it really rocket science, Chinander? (Or should I say “3rd and Chinander”). If I’m this D coordinator I’m begging guys like McBride to come watch practices and give me honest feedback. Hello McFly? How much are these guys making again? Whatever it is, it’s way too much right now.

Chinander is not the problem right now...
 

Reditus

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Love hearing interviews with our old coaches. I heard I had 1 thing wrong. I thought we always corrected mistakes on the practice field but it sounds like they also relied heavily on film sessions, so I am thankful they corrected me. I loved Mcbride's 4-3 defense and the pressure we brought from our rush ends.
 

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They were pretty successful in the 5-2. They changed though as offenses changed and when we started to have trouble covering the passing game. I seem to remember Mcbride calling it basketball on grass?

Charlie is right though. Folks wanted to run him out of town during one stretch. It's like that with all coaches, Osborne too.
 

Trojanhorse13

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I was lucky enough to listen to Coach McBride speak at a couple of coaches clinics. As a young high school football coach he taught me a lot about defensive line play. His defensive line is how he got most of the pressure on QB's in passing situations. Between the ends coming hard and the tackles collapsing the pocket the QB didn't have a lot of time. He is probably one of the best defensive line coaches in the history of football. That includes the NFL.
 

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The old Big Eight didn't do Nebraska any favors. Nebraska's 5-2 was designed to stop the power running games of their conference, where they would often face two TE and a FB leading for a talented RB. Then we'd make it to a bowl game and face pass-happy Florida teams with world-class sprinters spread five wide. It's hard to switch from one to the other.
 
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I was lucky enough to listen to Coach McBride speak at a couple of coaches clinics. As a young high school football coach he taught me a lot about defensive line play. His defensive line is how he got most of the pressure on QB's in passing situations. Between the ends coming hard and the tackles collapsing the pocket the QB didn't have a lot of time. He is probably one of the best defensive line coaches in the history of football. That includes the NFL.

Ask Kordell Stewart, a very mobile QB also with a big arm, about that collapsing pocket. In 3 games against McBride's blackshirts he was 23 for 64 in pass attempts (36%), and rushed 28 times for 7 yards.
 

HominidHusker

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Chinander is not the problem right now...
Offense is certainly more concerning to me and their struggles make defense look worse, but defensively:
#76 rush defense
#64 pass defense
#66 total defense
#92 third down defense
Only 6 turnovers in 7 games.

Against Minnesota we had 9 missed tackles compared to their 1.

Not exactly a beacon of success happening on that side.
 

TruHusker

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Did people actually listen to his comments? He was not very flattering of the current D situation. Call it what you want, but here are some of his takes.

Where are the turnovers? We have like 6 or 7 this year. The O has put the D in bad field position at times but that is NO EXCUSE, you have to stop the other team wherever they get the ball.

The talk about a young team, we start 7 seniors and are "supposed to be experienced."

They are putting kids in hard positions, really hard to defend. (I think that is the key right there)

He always wanted pressure, players loved it. Better than "beating straight on" with guys like we are now.

6-7 turnovers is unacceptable. Rutgers has 21 takeaways and is adopting the coaches attitude in year one.

Hard to say what the secondary is doing as he can't see it on TV. Perhaps more man to man.

Need to make some hard decisions at the end of the year. (what are those?)

Personal comments:
I don't get the impression he was too impressed. Say what you want about McBride, he adapted and had some incredible D's in his day. You have to at least give the guy credit from making the change from a 5 -2 to a 4-3. For anyone needing a dose of reality just go back and watch some of his D's play. It they don't get you jacked, nothing will.
 

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One thing about Mcbrides defenses that won't translate to today's game is that they use to punish the opponents QB. They wanted to rattle and make the guy uncomfortable back there. I think he use to say a QB can't make plays when he is laying on his back. Nowadays you can't even look at a Qb without getting a flag.
 

HominidHusker

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Did people actually listen to his comments? He was not very flattering of the current D situation. Call it what you want, but here are some of his takes.

Where are the turnovers? We have like 6 or 7 this year. The O has put the D in bad field position at times but that is NO EXCUSE, you have to stop the other team wherever they get the ball.

The talk about a young team, we start 7 seniors and are "supposed to be experienced."

They are putting kids in hard positions, really hard to defend. (I think that is the key right there)

He always wanted pressure, players loved it. Better than "beating straight on" with guys like we are now.

6-7 turnovers is unacceptable. Rutgers has 21 takeaways and is adopting the coaches attitude in year one.

Hard to say what the secondary is doing as he can't see it on TV. Perhaps more man to man.

Need to make some hard decisions at the end of the year. (what are those?)

Personal comments:
I don't get the impression he was too impressed. Say what you want about McBride, he adapted and had some incredible D's in his day. You have to at least give the guy credit from making the change from a 5 -2 to a 4-3. For anyone needing a dose of reality just go back and watch some of his D's play. It they don't get you jacked, nothing will.

I’ve really come to think about how for the amount of money these coaches get, there needs to be some more public accountability.
Regardless of telling your hand- which is not really an issue with film out there- I think our coaches need to stand up and discuss more detail about their scheme, what/who they’re modeling, what SPECIFICALLY is going wrong and what SPECIFICALLY they’re doing to fix it.

I would love to be a fly on the wall during their film discussions assessing their own performance.
Do they even know what is happening? If they do, then why does it continue to happen? That’s the job. Identify the issues and fix them.

If that’s not so realistic to ask for, I think Moos could come out and say “I’ve sat down with Frost and we had that conversation and broke down in GREAT DETAIL what needs to happen.”

Not doing that is either 1. gross negligence of job duties or 2. negligence about the problems caused by not addressing the fan base frustrations

The generic “we’re close” or “we just need time” is a poor excuse in year 3 when we’re struggling to even keep talent on the roster.

You can say things like: “our zone scheme failed because our guys didn’t have proper spacing or were confused by the opponents alignments that hadn’t appeared on film this year, and our halftime adjustment led to a breakdown allowing us to get beat over the top.”

or
“After watching the game back to see our horizontal screen game was a failure, we’ll focus on going more vertical. We’ve adjusted our blocking schemes on a few plays to help account for some of the missed blocks. We’ve got our OL doing extra footwork drills this week to get better at staying in front of their man.
We coached up our RBs this week to read open holes better.
We had Adrian and Luke practice 10 throwing plays 20 times each so their timing and accuracy with the WRs could improve. We developed a new strategy to help them see the field and make quicker decisions.”

Just tell us something other than “we had our best practice.”
 
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Easy to get a pass rush when you have at your disposal Grant Wistrom, Trev Alberts, Jared Tomich, Dwayne Harris, Mike Rucker as rush ends combined with defensive tackles like the Peter brothers and linebackers like Stewart, Farley, Williams etc...

You can’t get steady pressure on a QB by blitzing linebackers or corners or safeties if your tackles and rush ends aren’t getting any push. Much easier to commit a RB or tight end to pick up blitzes when the offensive line is in total command of the down lineman.

The bottom line is this: we need better rush ends and tackles. Maybe some of our young guys on the line will develop into that. Time will tell.

As for turnovers... they don’t happen when you are chasing plays. And they don’t often happen without pressure on the QB. Ask Amart about what caused his last two fumbles.
 

TruHusker

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Easy to get a pass rush when you have at your disposal Grant Wistrom, Trev Alberts, Jared Tomich, Dwayne Harris, Mike Rucker as rush ends combined with defensive tackles like the Peter brothers and linebackers like Stewart, Farley, Williams etc...

You can’t get steady pressure on a QB by blitzing linebackers or corners or safeties if your tackles and rush ends aren’t getting any push. Much easier to commit a RB or tight end to pick up blitzes when the offensive line is in total command of the down lineman.

The bottom line is this: we need better rush ends and tackles. Maybe some of our young guys on the line will develop into that. Time will tell.

As for turnovers... they don’t happen when you are chasing plays. And they don’t often happen without pressure on the QB. Ask Amart about what caused his last two fumbles.


Well, we don't have rush ends anymore. To me the "bottom line" is we will never get the type of players you listed with this type of play. Question Pennsy - do you think McBride could take these players and have a better D? Then build on that to get better players?
 

leodisflowers

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Offense is certainly more concerning to me and their struggles make defense look worse, but defensively:
#76 rush defense
#64 pass defense
#66 total defense
#92 third down defense
Only 6 turnovers in 7 games.

Against Minnesota we had 9 missed tackles compared to their 1.

Not exactly a beacon of success happening on that side.


I showed this in another thread, but if we had the ability to score 28 points in each of our games, which is not much by any stretch of the imagination, we would be 6-2. 28 points a game in modern college football is god awful.
 

dinglefritz

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I showed this in another thread, but if we had the ability to score 28 points in each of our games, which is not much by any stretch of the imagination, we would be 6-2. 28 points a game in modern college football is god awful.
Clearly the offense this year has been offensive..... QB play has been the number one reason. AM according to Frost has a bum throwing shoulder which seems to affect his accuracy. IF that is the case, how bad is Luke that we don't play him instead. Why when AM went out did we put Luke in to throw 3 passes in a row? Sigh. Play calling in this last game was questionable at best.
 

leodisflowers

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Clearly the offense this year has been offensive..... QB play has been the number one reason. AM according to Frost has a bum throwing shoulder which seems to affect his accuracy. IF that is the case, how bad is Luke that we don't play him instead. Why when AM went out did we put Luke in to throw 3 passes in a row? Sigh. Play calling in this last game was questionable at best.

If you go back and watch a lot of the games, the play calling isn't as bad as you think it is. We've got WR's and TE's running open, just no ability to find them.
 

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The old Big Eight didn't do Nebraska any favors. Nebraska's 5-2 was designed to stop the power running games of their conference, where they would often face two TE and a FB leading for a talented RB. Then we'd make it to a bowl game and face pass-happy Florida teams with world-class sprinters spread five wide. It's hard to switch from one to the other.
100% accurate and usually overlooked/unknown
 

oldjar07

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Love hearing interviews with our old coaches. I heard I had 1 thing wrong. I thought we always corrected mistakes on the practice field but it sounds like they also relied heavily on film sessions, so I am thankful they corrected me. I loved Mcbride's 4-3 defense and the pressure we brought from our rush ends.
You can do both. If you see a mistake on the practice field, especially if it's a persistent mistake, you should take the time to correct it.
 

CornMaster

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It am happy with the improvement in D this year, but I would take McBride in a second. Chins is using the Oregon D. The Oregon D was good when it had the right players, but it had problems dealing with physical teams like Stanford and in the playoffs. In my opinion our current D has too much read and reacting and less pressure. It has never won a championship. I will support coach Frost through thick and thin, but would prefer an attacking 4-3 D.
 

Rick.Shaw1

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They were pretty successful in the 5-2. They changed though as offenses changed and when we started to have trouble covering the passing game. I seem to remember Mcbride calling it basketball on grass?

Charlie is right though. Folks wanted to run him out of town during one stretch. It's like that with all coaches, Osborne too.
1984 defense with more than a few former walk-on starters - 203 yards given up per game. Ranked among the top two Neb defenses of all time. Stars...Brett Clark (safety from Neb City), Jim Skow, Mike Knox, Scott Strasberger (Holdrege, Neb). Charlie McBride could freakin coach. Almost the exact same starting lineup that was much less successful the year before with the scoring explosion in 1983. 203 TOTAL yards per game? Damn...I’d take that again.