Scott Stricklin

[121Josey]

As they say, bad publicity is good publicity.

If he gets credit for F*CK TSUN (something in which he likely had no clue of or zero control over), then he damn sure should get credit for the football stadium being built, hiring ben howland (and rick ray), etc.

Thats the problem. Some people want to give him credit for all the bad but none of the good.

Please, give SS all that credit, especially the credit about SS building DWS 100 years ago.

Whether you like it or not, SS will be judged not by DWS but DNF. Stay tuned.

 

[engie]

Whether you like it or not, SS will be judged not by DWS but DNF. Stay tuned.

People not "judging" Stricklin on Davis Wade are playing another agenda. Byrne didn't even hire the architects.

If people are going to give Byrne credit for Davis Wade, for sake of consistency, they should also give him credit for Dudy Noble, the softball renovation, and the eventual Hump facelift. He mentioned them needing to be done in passing and was here when drawings of each were released in the campus master plan. None of which look at all like what we eventually built.

 

[patdog]

Trust me engie, if Byrne were still here, these same people singing his praises today would be bitching about him just like they do about Stricklin. And they'd look just as ridiculous as they do right now.

 

[patdog]

One of the best ways to get old in a hurry is to hate everything new that comes out.

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It's the way of the Mississippi State fan. ***** about any signs of progress. Our athletic department as a whole is in the best shape it's ever been in in our history. And it's not even close. We're in much better shape than we were when Stricklin took over. I don't like every single decision he's ever made (the uniforms, Rick Ray). But overall, he's made a lot of damn good decisions and he's led us to where we've never been before and the future looks even better. That's what an outstanding athletic director does.

Edit: On the Rick Ray decision, he had the sense to make the call to fire him when it was clear it wasn't going to work instead of falling for the "we have to give him a fair chance, he stepped into an impossible situation" ******** that was the prevailing opinion on this board up until the day he was fired when everyone was shocked that we fired him (even though I had posted a week earlier that he might still get fired).

 

[121Josey]

People not "judging" Stricklin on Davis Wade are playing another agenda. Byrne didn't even hire the architects.

If people are going to give Byrne credit for Davis Wade, for sake of consistency, they should also give him credit for Dudy Noble, the softball renovation, and the eventual Hump facelift. He mentioned them needing to be done in passing and was here when drawings of each were released in the campus master plan. None of which look at all like what we eventually built.

I repeat, if SS flops on DNF, that will be his legacy - not an unsymmetrical endzone expansion. I like SS. I like what SS is doing on building projects. No problem whatsoever. I think he's getting the hang of the marketing. I just expect good quality university products: uniforms, media, commercials, in-game experience.

But two debates are happening here: 1. Is SS a Top 10 AD? 2. Has SS done a better job in his 5 years than Byrne in his 2 (or 4) years? I answer no to both questions. Like others have said above in other ways, money doesn't solve all the problems, but it makes life a lot easier. I think SS will have a successful legacy here, but Byne hit gold on many things here in a short time and has continued to have the golden touch in Arizona. He casts a large shadow. It's up to SS make his time in the sun. He's off to a good 2015. Let's hope he keeps it up.

Not that it has anything to do with the expansion, but Byrne gave us a Dawgzillatron before it was cool to have such a thing in CFB.

 

[Sandman.sixpack]

I think Scott's done a good job overall, but I do agree that Byrne was better. Greg Byrne was and is a Top 10 AD in my opinion. He laid the foundation for all the good things that have happened.

 

[patdog]

Let's not forget that when the SEC mandated the P5 game every season and everyone on this board was bitching about how the rule put us at a huge disadvantage and we'd have to play a lot of road games and neutral games because we'd never be able to schedule home-and-homes, Scott went out and scheduled 8 years of home-and-homes in about 3 months.

 

[DancingRabbit]

And if DNF isn't a flop it's just part of Byrne's "foundation".

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I repeat, if SS flops on DNF, that will be his legacy - not an unsymmetrical endzone expansion. I like SS. I like what SS is doing on building projects. No problem whatsoever. I think he's getting the hang of the marketing. I just expect good quality university products: uniforms, media, commercials, in-game experience.

But two debates are happening here: 1. Is SS a Top 10 AD? 2. Has SS done a better job in his 5 years than Byrne in his 2 (or 4) years? I answer no to both questions. Like others have said above in other ways, money doesn't solve all the problems, but it makes life a lot easier. I think SS will have a successful legacy here, but Byne hit gold on many things here in a short time and has continued to have the golden touch in Arizona. He casts a large shadow. It's up to SS make his time in the sun. He's off to a good 2015. Let's hope he keeps it up.

Not that it has anything to do with the expansion, but Byrne gave us a Dawgzillatron before it was cool to have such a thing in CFB.

 

[patdog]

Exactly. It's ridiculous to even say, "If the new DNF is a flop." It's going to blow away every other college baseball stadium as well as almost all minor league stadiums.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Something else about Stricklin...nobody wants Mississippi State to win more than that guy. A lot of schools have good AD's that are looking to build their resume for the next big job that comes along. Frankly, Byrne was in that category and as soon as a better deal presented itself he was gone.

Stricklin isn't looking to trade up from Mississippi State. He wants State to "win" at everything we do, and he wants it for the right reasons. He's not perfect but he's pretty dang good and he's ours.

 

[121Josey]

Definitely. It's ridiculous to say, "It's going to blow away every other college baseball stadium as well as almost all minor league stadiums" until it is financed and ground is broken.

 

[121Josey]

Something else about Stricklin...nobody wants Mississippi State to win more than that guy. A lot of schools have good AD's that are looking to build their resume for the next big job that comes along. Frankly, Byrne was in that category and as soon as a better deal presented itself he was gone.

Stricklin isn't looking to trade up from Mississippi State. He wants State to "win" at everything we do, and he wants it for the right reasons. He's not perfect but he's pretty dang good and he's ours.

That was Byrne's problem. He didn't want to win. That's why he fired Crxxm. Oh wait...**

How many other AD's do you know of who took other AD jobs? Oliver Luck went to WVU but that was his alma mater.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Well, of current AD's who served as AD's at their previous schools, there's:

Jeff Long at Arkansas came from Pittsburgh. Bernard Muir at Stanford came from Georgetown. He replaced Bob Bowlsby who had come to Stanford from Iowa. Dan Guerrero at UCLA came from Cal Irvine. Ward Manuel at UConn came from Buffalo. Greg Byrne at Arizona came from Mississippi State. Greg McGarrity at Georgia came from UF as associate AD. Kevin White at Duke came from Notre Dame. Gary Barta at Iowa came from Wyoming. Sheahon Zenger came to Kansas from Illinois State. Mitch Barnhart at KY came from Oregon St. Tom Jurich came to Louisville from Colorado St. Joe Alleva came to LSU from Duke. Tommy McClelland came to La Tech from McNeese St. Rick Dickson at Tulane came from Washington State.
Kevin Anderson came to Maryland from Army. Norwood Teague at Minnesota came from VCU. Ross Bjork at TSUN came from Western KY. Bubba Cunningham at North Carolina came from Ball St. Debbie Yow at NCST came from Maryland. Mike Bohn at Cinncinnati came from Colorado. Greg Christopher at Xavier came from Bowling Green. Joe Castiglione at OK came from Missouri. Dan Radakovich at Clemson came from GaTech. Eric Hyman at TAMU came from South Carolina. Kirby Hocutt was AD at Miami before Texas Tech. Bob Stull came to UTEP from UMass, but he left to go to Missouri, then he came back to UTEP. Jim Weaver at VATech came from Western Michigan. Tom Moos gave up the Nike money at Oregon to go back home to Washington State.

I'm sure there are others, but those are some off the top of my head***

Point is, it's VERY common for AD's to trade up, and with Stricklin that's not a concern, which gives us great stability.

 

[KurtRambis4]

FIRe stricKLANDS11!!!!!

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[KurtRambis4]

Well...fiRE STRickLANDs1!!!!

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[patdog]

No. It's not. It will happen. The only question is do we break ground summer 2016 or summer 2017.

 

[I_Love_My_Mommy]

Something else about Stricklin...nobody wants Mississippi State to win more than that guy. A lot of schools have good AD's that are looking to build their resume for the next big job that comes along. Frankly, Byrne was in that category and as soon as a better deal presented itself he was gone.

Stricklin isn't looking to trade up from Mississippi State. He wants State to "win" at everything we do, and he wants it for the right reasons. He's not perfect but he's pretty dang good and he's ours.

I just cried a little after reading that...

 

[ArcherSPS]

What sucks about it?

 

[121Josey]

No. It's not. It will happen. The only question is do we break ground summer 2016 or summer 2017.

You are such a 17 DUBMASS! Nobody questions if it will happen. But how much will it be different that the plans put forward? Will it be Top-Tier or luxurious? Luxury costs money and is the first thing to go in a budget crunch.

What if I told you that DWS lighting looks like a glorified high school stadium because LT cut corners on support during the East Side upgrade?

 

[patdog]

You're the dubmass if you think the new Dude isn't going to be 1st class all the way.

 

[Jacknut1]

You are such a 17 DUBMASS! Nobody questions if it will happen. But how much will it be different that the plans put forward? Will it be Top-Tier or luxurious? Luxury costs money and is the first thing to go in a budget crunch.

What if I told you that DWS lighting looks like a glorified high school stadium because LT cut corners on support during the East Side upgrade?

Good grief! You sound like one of the naysayers while the football stadium expansion was underway. But keep on hatin', it'll keep you warm at night.

 

[engie]

But how much will it be different that the plans put forward? Will it be Top-Tier or luxurious? Luxury costs money and is the first thing to go in a budget crunch.

Always good for a nice laugh when someone calls someone else a dumbass then follows with this generic construction like that misses the mark on college athletics and what actually drives facilities by as much as that mark can possibly be missed.