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rog1187

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your son is out sled riding with a group of 8 other boys. At some point, your boy gets into a very brief altercation with another boy resulting in your boy getting a bloody nose.

Do you:

1. rack it up to boys being boys...chit happens.
2. become hysteric over it and contact the other boy's parents.
 

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Depends. If there was bullying involved on either part, I would contact the other boy's parents. Not to lay blame but bullying is a problem and should not be ignored. If it was two boys getting hot headed and a small fight happened, I don't see a need to contact the boy's parents. I would make sure my son knows that I would want to hear if anyone continues picking on him for getting the worst of it or anything but call me old fashion, but character is built by not always being the winner or having someone coming to their aid when it isn't needed.
 

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Depends. If there was bullying involved on either part, I would contact the other boy's parents. Not to lay blame but bullying is a problem and should not be ignored. If it was two boys getting hot headed and a small fight happened, I don't see a need to contact the boy's parents. I would make sure my son knows that I would want to hear if anyone continues picking on him for getting the worst of it or anything but call me old fashion, but character is built by not always being the winner or having someone coming to their aid when it isn't needed.
No bullying involved...the boys had never played together before. In fact they had been playing together for quite some time prior. It was over in a matter of 5 seconds.
 

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your son is out sled riding with a group of 8 other boys. At some point, your boy gets into a very brief altercation with another boy resulting in your boy getting a bloody nose.

Do you:

1. rack it up to boys being boys...chit happens.
2. become hysteric over it and contact the other boy's parents.
How hot is the other mom?
 

rog1187

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Oh got damn it man. Read gooder. I said "other" mom and your answer got us all buying into some fantasy lesbo couple.
Oh there are other scenarios for that...just not the right time or thread.
 

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Only if the ages of the children are significantly different and one child is really larger.
 

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Let them work it out.
That's my thought...the other helicopter dad felt it necessary to let me know that he told his son to stay away from my son. Okay - not sure why I needed to know that since it didn't involve me having to do anything.
 

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That's my thought...the other helicopter dad felt it necessary to let me know that he told his son to stay away from my son. Okay - not sure why I needed to know that since it didn't involve me having to do anything.
Stop raising a dick.
 

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That's my thought...the other helicopter dad felt it necessary to let me know that he told his son to stay away from my son. Okay - not sure why I needed to know that since it didn't involve me having to do anything.
I fought a kid across the road many times, we roomed together our freshman year at WVU. Kids will fight at times, as long as nobody gets really hurt, or either kid is really older and punishes the other, let them work it out.
 

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Stop raising a dick.
I have told him not to start anything but never worry about me being upset with him if he has to defend himself...and if he's going to swing to aim for the nose. At least I know he listened about the nose.
 

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That's my thought...the other helicopter dad felt it necessary to let me know that he told his son to stay away from my son. Okay - not sure why I needed to know that since it didn't involve me having to do anything.
One thing I am pretty sure of, parenting is tough and there is no one correct way to do it. Everyone thinks they know best and I don't see a problem with different parents handling it in the best way they know how. If the other dad handled it appropriately with you of just informing you, then thank him and act neighborly saying something to the affect that hopefully it is over with. Key thing is these boys need to learn that violence isn't the best way to settle things. And this is from someone that has been in more fights as a young juvenile than most. But things were different back in the day where I grew up versus today where I have raised my kids but still, I wish many fights I was in would have never had happened.
 

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I have told him not to start anything but never worry about me being upset with him if he has to defend himself...and if he's going to swing to aim for the nose. At least I know he listened about the nose.
I commend you for that advice you have given. I don't know about the nose part but not necessarily bad advice. But teaching your son how to defend himself is good.
 

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I have told him not to start anything but never worry about me being upset with him if he has to defend himself...and if he's going to swing to aim for the nose. At least I know he listened about the nose.

Back in youth my stepson got into an altercation with another boy at practice. They had gear on, fists were flying. None of the staff went to break it up until they'd ended up on the ground.

We had a girl on our team one year, played line. She was tough. In a game, opponent's d lineman kicked one of our players on the ground. She took a run at him and dropped him, refs broke it up. Both were ejected, and she was mad as dirt. Got her on the bench and she was still going 90 miles and hour, and finished "And now you're mad at me!". My reply, "Yes I am. Never. I mean never, ever, ever... take your helmet off during a fight. That's the only thing I have to say about that entire situation."

Let them work it out, they'll be better for it.
 

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One thing I am pretty sure of, parenting is tough and there is no one correct way to do it. Everyone thinks they know best and I don't see a problem with different parents handling it in the best way they know how. If the other dad handled it appropriately with you of just informing you, then thank him and act neighborly saying something to the affect that hopefully it is over with. Key thing is these boys need to learn that violence isn't the best way to settle things. And this is from someone that has been in more fights as a young juvenile than most. But things were different back in the day where I grew up versus today where I have raised my kids but still, I wish many fights I was in would have never had happened.
Th kicker is the kid was in my yard...I had never met him...we had a ton of kids sledding on the hill. The dad wasn't even there. As far as a I know I'm the only adult that witnessed it. I didn't see who or how it started - just looked over and saw flying arms and fists and that was it...when it was over (mere seconds) they both walked away from one another. I told the guy I don't know who started it but that both were participating. he said, 'well my son doesn't lie and he told me he wasn't throwing punches'. Well I'll tell you what, I have a good kid, but I'll admit that he stretches the truth at times and will outright lie at times - kids do that and it's part of the lesson of learning why it's important not to lie. I'll never say my kid is perfect, in fact I'll tell you he can be an a-hole at times. But I know what I saw and to me it was boys being boys. I reached to the guy today to tell him I was sorry that it happened and that his son was welcome to come over and sled anytime (because everyone else does). He went all dooshbag on me so I told to keep his kid at home.
 

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I fought a kid across the road many times, we roomed together our freshman year at WVU. Kids will fight at times, as long as nobody gets really hurt, or either kid is really older and punishes the other, let them work it out.
He's been in other rough-housing incidents with his friends and the next day their back to playing like nothing happened.
 

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Back in youth my stepson got into an altercation with another boy at practice. They had gear on, fists were flying. None of the staff went to break it up until they'd ended up on the ground.

We had a girl on our team one year, played line. She was tough. In a game, opponent's d lineman kicked one of our players on the ground. She took a run at him and dropped him, refs broke it up. Both were ejected, and she was mad as dirt. Got her on the bench and she was still going 90 miles and hour, and finished "And now you're mad at me!". My reply, "Yes I am. Never. I mean never, ever, ever... take your helmet off during a fight. That's the only thing I have to say about that entire situation."

Let them work it out, they'll be better for it.
If it's a bullying situation that's one thing...if it's a one time happened because they playing got a little rougher than when it started and things happened, then let them work it out and don't make a big deal over it. Anytime my son has been involved in a rough-housing incident we have talked about it and the impact of it...and why it's important to control your emotions...and what to do when you can't.
 

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I commend you for that advice you have given. I don't know about the nose part but not necessarily bad advice. But teaching your son how to defend himself is good.
He didn't drop him...in fact I thought they were almost playing at first and then it was over...and they walked away from each other...then the kid went to his knees because his nose was bleeding.
 

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I have told him not to start anything but never worry about me being upset with him if he has to defend himself...and if he's going to swing to aim for the nose. At least I know he listened about the nose.

Actually the inside base of your wrist up against the ear on both sides is much more painful and effective. That's solid bone just behind your hand. Ramming both your left and right upturned wrists into exposed ears simultaneously with force causes incredible pain and immediately drops your victim to his knees with both hands covering the aching eardrums!

Try it on yourself. Guarantee you can't stand more than a mild bump to your own ear!
 

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Actually the inside base of your wrist up against the ear on both sides is much more painful and effective. That's solid bone just behind your hand. Ramming both your left and right upturned wrists into exposed ears simultaneously with force causes incredible pain and immediately drops your victim to his knees with both hands covering the aching eardrums!

Try it on yourself. Guarantee you can't stand more than a mild bump to your own ear!
I don't want him to hurt anyone that bad (unless he would have to)...usually a good jab or two to the nose will bloody it, make their eyes water, and stun them enough to reconsider their actions.