RU free throws

[RUBigFrank]

Somewhat of a surprise - we have improved our team %:
For all games - 63.9%
Conference games only 70.8% (tenth spot in conference).

Of further note - Deshawn at 82.9% and in the top 15 for conference games only.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Yes, the in-conference free throw defense is weaker.

 

[soundcrib]

We improved on FTs but got worse at everything else. :weary:

 

[satnom]

We got worse at getting foul calls from BIG refs.

GO RU

 

[RUChoppin]

Yes, the in-conference free throw defense is weaker.

In the 13 OOC games, our opponents went to the line 179 times (13.8 per game). and we went 297 times (22.8)... for a +9 differential.

In the 13 B1G games, our opponents went to the line 253 times (19.5 per game), and we went 209 times (16.1)... for a -3.4 differential.

I'd imagine most of that is due to an increase in competition... but the overall impact is that the FT differential has swung by 12.4 shots in conference play.

 

[RUBigFrank]

In the 13 OOC games, our opponents went to the line 179 times (13.8 per game). and we went 297 times (22.8)... for a +9 differential.

In the 13 B1G games, our opponents went to the line 253 times (19.5 per game), and we went 209 times (16.1)... for a -3.4 differential.

I'd imagine most of that is due to an increase in competition... but the overall impact is that the FT differential has swung by 12.4 shots in conference play.

That would strengthened the ref bias argument. Interesting stat.

 

[willisneverrana43]

No it wouldn't.

 

[RUChoppin]

I don't know if it speaks to bias, just that there's definitely been a shift in number of fouls called for/against us once we entered conference play. Lots of contributing factors would play into that.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Or not.

What we do know to be an indisputable fact is that the overall level of competition skyrocketed in the B1G schedule as contrasted to the out-of-conference schedule. That alone can be enough to account for the change in the foul profile.

 

[RUChoppin]

Or not.

What we do know to be an indisputable fact is that the overall level of competition skyrocketed in the B1G schedule as contrasted to the out-of-conference schedule. That alone can be enough to account for the change in the foul profile.

Could be a lot of things.
- Overall level of competition results in us settling for more outside shots and having to foul more on defense
- Overall height/size of B1G post players leads to more blocks without fouls
- More away games
- Our needing to foul more at the end of games to stop the clock instead of our opponents needing to
- Depth issues (and injuries) lead to more fatigue and fouling later in games
- Different style of officiating in conference games
- Less "benefit of the doubt" while playing as the underdog rather than the favorite

As I said, lots of things could be contributing factors.

 

[willisneverrana43]

Could be a lot of things.
- Overall level of competition results in us settling for more outside shots and having to foul more on defense
- Overall height/size of B1G post players leads to more blocks without fouls
- More away games
- Our needing to foul more at the end of games to stop the clock instead of our opponents needing to
- Depth issues (and injuries) lead to more fatigue and fouling later in games
- Different style of officiating in conference games
- Less "benefit of the doubt" while playing as the underdog rather than the favorite

As I said, lots of things could be contributing factors.

All of the things that you mention are due to a vast step-up in competition, save the greater number of away games. Oh, and the "bias" speculation that this whole line of posts is trying to angle toward.

 

[RUBigFrank]

Actually the disparity of nonconference games makes sense - you get home calls against weaker completion (these were all played at home). Bias in our favor.

The disparity in conference games includes both home and away, a break down of conf home games would be enlightening.

 

[RUChoppin]

All of the things that you mention are due to a vast step-up in competition, save the greater number of away games. Oh, and the "bias" speculation that this whole line of posts is trying to angle toward.

Could probably collapse a few of the bullets into a general "playing better teams" bucket. The others would be increase in away games, depth/fatigue issues, and different officiating emphasis in B1G games than OoC games (and at times just different officials getting lower profile games).

 

[RUChoppin]

Actually the disparity of nonconference games makes sense - you get home calls against weaker completion (these were all played at home). Bias in our favor.

The disparity in conference games includes both home and away, a break down of conf home games would be enlightening.

Just looking at conference games:
Home (7 games) - RU shot 16.0/game, Opponent shot 16.3/game
Away (6 games) - RU shot 16.2/game, Opponent shot 23.2/game

There's also variance in style of play between teams that can impact this over a very small sample size.

 

[Loyal-Son]

Anyone who thinks referees are completely unbiased in their calls knows nothing about science.

Consider the famous "gorilla experiment" where the man in a gorilla suit is not noticed by 50% of the observers when he walks across the stage, when they are told to concentrate on something else happening on stage. Consider that eye-witness accounts are considered to be mostly unreliable now in court cases.

We all have our biases. As RU fans we certainly don't see the referees' calls accurately, as we expect to see our team do better. We are undoubtedly more biased than the refs, but they are far from immune to the foibles of human perception.

Referees are human. They go out there knowing which team is expected to be better, and that is going to influence their perception of what is happening on the court. Some referees are better able to adjust than others and so seem to be fairer, but there is no person in this world that is able to see such things with an unbiased eye. It is what it is.