Roster For Next Season
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If we don’t raise enough NIL, Somerville is gone. Incoming freshmen look promising. Need at least two transfer guards.
I feel like if we’re going to ride with Sommerville we’re going to need another big next to him because he can’t protect the paint and this defense needs someone that can.
You guys with the “if we don’t raise/give enough NIL for sommerville he is gone” narrative have lost the plot.
In no way is retaining sommerville tied to an NIL disaster. Even in a dastardly NIL situation he is easily retained when it comes to dollars and cents.
Whether he wants to stay here is the bigger and only relevant factor in whether or not he is here next year.
In no way is retaining sommerville tied to an NIL disaster. Even in a dastardly NIL situation he is easily retained when it comes to dollars and cents.
Whether he wants to stay here is the bigger and only relevant factor in whether or not he is here next year.
Incoming 6’9” Gevante Ware hopefully can contribute something
If he gets a better offer, in a better situation, he’s not going to want to stay here. Serviceable Centers command $$$, which we don’t have. After this season, who would want a rerun, especially when the talent level might be worse next year. Not sure about your easily retained assertion, but hope you’re right.
That would be fine if we get back to allowing only 64 points a game
After watching this year and being in the RAC for the season… we are better suited and the fans desire a rock fight more
He’s not a serviceable Big10 starting center and never will be. He’s a Merrimack-level center. Hopefully Derkack will transfer back and take Lathan with him.
Too slow and plays small.
Fine as a backup but it’s doubtful he wants that role, and that’s not where NIL should be spent anyway
I'm not all that certain deeper pocketed schools are going to be beating down doors to lure away Sommerville. Granted he's young, but any real payoff might not be for another couple years.
Complete nonsense. He’s a Freshman Center Averaging 7.4 points and 4.2 rebounds, playing a bigger role than he should be only due to injury.
He has exceeded most expectations.
LOL raising significant NIL money for Somerville? Did he start shooting threes at 35% + and grab 7 boards a game? Lol. If he demanded money, there is the door.
Who could come back?
JWill
EO
Lathan
Grant
Dortch
Derkack
JMike
I feel we retain all but Lathan and JWill. Lathan seems very NIL driven. He doesn’t fit our defense first MO. I can also see Pike promising Derkack a starting gig.
The frosh are ok but none will be real impact players in their frosh year. As with Pike guys they’ll need 2-3 years.
Probably a few low to mid major adds to get to 12-13. Don’t scholarships go up to 15 next year?
JWill
EO
Lathan
Grant
Dortch
Derkack
JMike
I feel we retain all but Lathan and JWill. Lathan seems very NIL driven. He doesn’t fit our defense first MO. I can also see Pike promising Derkack a starting gig.
The frosh are ok but none will be real impact players in their frosh year. As with Pike guys they’ll need 2-3 years.
Probably a few low to mid major adds to get to 12-13. Don’t scholarships go up to 15 next year?
He will not get offered an amount we can’t afford to give him. If he wants to leave he’s going to leave.
Will Pike want to pay him an amount that we could afford but prefers not to match from elsewhere? I guess that’s possible given he didn’t want to pay the transfer big more money we could’ve afforded.
Hardly. His massive scoring output is due to opponents focusing on the 2 other players.
He’d average 15 if he also got 1 pt for every time he fell down and whined to the refs.
It’s indisputable that he’s unathletic and plays 6 inches shorter than he is. That doesn’t change. He hasn’t been the second best 5 in any Big10 game.
Backup 5, sure. Gets abused on D every game and experience/training doesn’t fix that. Unathletic even for a big.
Exactly. Shelby will pay for his Lyft to the airport. He will never be a legit 5 and 4s aren’t a thing.
Lord help us if dercack is starting and Davis is still playing the same minutes or more.
Who’s to say we will? I’m not sure we should expect to be improved next year.
Fans desire wins.
If we were 12-14 (5-10), I doubt fans would be very cool with it because we were losing 68-61.
See how happy everyone was last year.
IMO among the incoming freshmen at least Nwuli and Mark should see plenty of action next season
agree. instead of a St. John’s scrimmage like this year we should play Seton Hall Prep with those two getting sig. PT.
Can't answer that question without knowing our budget and the cost of our returning players.
If this is like a fantasy baseball auction draft and I have $250 to fill my roster of 14 I am not using more than $20 on Somerville.
The major problem it looks like is we are going to the draft with $250. Maryland coming to the draft with $350 and Michigan coming with $500
If this is like a fantasy baseball auction draft and I have $250 to fill my roster of 14 I am not using more than $20 on Somerville.
The major problem it looks like is we are going to the draft with $250. Maryland coming to the draft with $350 and Michigan coming with $500
RU was excellent defensively last year. If you want rock fights, you have to be able to throw rocks, too.
If Jwill stays in school, doubt he'd leave here. Derkack, gotta think he's staying. Grant has ties to Smoke right? Don't see him leaving. Ogbole ain't going anywhere. Lathan - never thought he'd be here more than a year. Jmike - who knows.
I'd prefer these pieces stay. Try to find 2 upperclassmen in the portal who can score, handle the ball, and plays defense. Some wishful thinking on a Center somehow. I wouldn't hate this roster.
Portal C
Upperclassmen Portal combo guard
Upperclassmen Portal combo guard
Jwill
Grant
Dercack
Nuwuil
Mark
Ogbole
Ware
Dortch
Powers
I'd prefer these pieces stay. Try to find 2 upperclassmen in the portal who can score, handle the ball, and plays defense. Some wishful thinking on a Center somehow. I wouldn't hate this roster.
Portal C
Upperclassmen Portal combo guard
Upperclassmen Portal combo guard
Jwill
Grant
Dercack
Nuwuil
Mark
Ogbole
Ware
Dortch
Powers
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I’m hoping the sum of the parts will be greater than this years whole
Pikes way of building a roster is a thing of the past. There is no reason to pay a player based on potential whether its short term or long.
There is too much visibility and volatility in basketball roster construction now with the limited number of positions available.
I expect Sommerville to leave and get over paid because of the position he plays and because of a few moments where he showed some talent this year. That's how it works, show something as a young player and then market yourself even though you have not even measurably helped your program up to that point. The smart guys know this, only pay for proven talent and possibly fill in with athletic freshman.
There is too much visibility and volatility in basketball roster construction now with the limited number of positions available.
I expect Sommerville to leave and get over paid because of the position he plays and because of a few moments where he showed some talent this year. That's how it works, show something as a young player and then market yourself even though you have not even measurably helped your program up to that point. The smart guys know this, only pay for proven talent and possibly fill in with athletic freshman.
So we have to go shopping for an island of misfit toys. Ones that most others don’t want but fit our rock fight, defense first, long and athletic profile. So with the right misfit toys there’s a chance we get to the ncaas
To be honest, I think we’re ok with the portal next year - we’ll be shopping for 2-3 players to complement a returning core of grown men that’s on year 2 or 3 in Pikes D. And the 2-3 will likely be guards who can double as slightly undersized forwards.
Grant -- Hopefully we can hold on to
Dortch -- No idea. Stays or transfers down?
Lathan -- Feel like we'll see a mutual (to some extent) parting ways. Part of me thinks Pike would rather go back to what he's comfortable with at the 5...a solid defensive minded rim protector. Even if Pike does want him, I think Lathan will get NIL from someone and bounce.
JMike -- For a couple of kids who grew up together, it feels like him and Ace aren't really that close?? I had him penciled in as leaving after this season with Ace, but now I'm not so sure. Also don't think his NIL value is that high. Hopefully he stays, if nothing else for some continuity
Derkack -- Stays as a guy off the bench. Or Pike gets him to stop with the "it's Jordan Derkack time" nonsense.
JWill -- Think he feels at home here and is still loyal to Pike for taking a chance on him.
Ogbole -- Stays. Who is paying a raw guy who can't stay healthy?
So that means what, 2-3 portal additions?
Dortch -- No idea. Stays or transfers down?
Lathan -- Feel like we'll see a mutual (to some extent) parting ways. Part of me thinks Pike would rather go back to what he's comfortable with at the 5...a solid defensive minded rim protector. Even if Pike does want him, I think Lathan will get NIL from someone and bounce.
JMike -- For a couple of kids who grew up together, it feels like him and Ace aren't really that close?? I had him penciled in as leaving after this season with Ace, but now I'm not so sure. Also don't think his NIL value is that high. Hopefully he stays, if nothing else for some continuity
Derkack -- Stays as a guy off the bench. Or Pike gets him to stop with the "it's Jordan Derkack time" nonsense.
JWill -- Think he feels at home here and is still loyal to Pike for taking a chance on him.
Ogbole -- Stays. Who is paying a raw guy who can't stay healthy?
So that means what, 2-3 portal additions?
I hope you’re right and most return. Don’t get me wrong. It wasn’t an insult. I like misfit toys, have a chip on their shoulder.
2 portal scoring high major guards, one that is a point guard, is desperately needed for scoring next year. And a rim protector 5 man, but we saw how that went this past offseason season
Can’t wait to see who goes in the portal. Speculate who we all are excited about. Get excited. And then be let down when it’s a low major poor fit at needed positions.
While this is true in the short term, I think we will eventually see a swing back toward there being a way to keep players in place longer. The current state is not a stable equilibrium imo
Is the Powers prediction based on anything? Not much tape on him but doesn’t seem like an explosive athlete and strikes me as a guy who will take some time on defense. If that’s our starting backcourt I think we can pencil in 18th in the conference next season
Yeah I hope those transfers are good otherwise that looks like a Fred Hill team to me honestly
Grant - Hope he stays
Dortch- hasn’t shown anything to care
Lathan - I’m indifferent, but I agree that he leaves
JMike- hope he leaves
JWill - really hope he leaves
Derkack - Were stuck with him. Wouldn’t mind it if he was about our 8th man next year, but he’ll probably start and that’s not good.
Ogbole - I’m indifferent but if he’s going to start, I hope he leaves
The rosters in this thread wouldn't win more than 2-3 B1G games all season.
Next years team doesn’t have a Big ten caliber player. You can argue Jwill as a bench player on another team and possibly Grant and Sommerville in 2-3 years .
It’s a terrible situation:
It’s a terrible situation: