RJ Barrett ending Vrank!!!

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I think this is a very tacky thing to post. Showing a seldom used senior, one who gives it all, but is a little limited, getting dunked on by a one year wonder?
One year wonder????? Lmao.
RJ is literally the furthest thing from a “one year wonder.”
 

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He's going to play at Duke for more than one year?
He's gonna play at Duke from Nov-April, so I actually calculate that to be playing at Duke for 6 months.
I assume most people would believe the term "one year wonder" to mean you come out of nowhere, have one incredible year, then are never heard from again. Luke Hancock who won the vacated title at UL was a 1 year wonder. Brian Zoubek is the closest Duke player I could come up with. We knew about him before his senior year, but the national audience did not.

RJ is literally the opposite, he has been on the map for a while now, and should be one of the most popular athletes in the world in just a few years. Considering all of the most famous athletes in the world are basketball or soccer players (sports that allow for personality), RJ has a great chance.
 
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I think this is a very tacky thing to post. Showing a seldom used senior, one who gives it all, but is a little limited, getting dunked on by a one year wonder?

No, Mac, showing a Duke player dunking on another Duke player (in a 'practice') is not tacky, but labeling a Duke player as a 'one year wonder' (by a Duke fan) certainly clears the hurdle of bad taste.

OFC
 

Mac9192

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He's gonna play at Duke from Nov-April, so I actually calculate that to be playing at Duke for 6 months.
I assume most people would believe the term "one year wonder" to mean you come out of nowhere, have one incredible year, then are never heard from again. Luke Hancock who won the vacated title at UL was a 1 year wonder. Brian Zoubek is the closest Duke player I could come up with. We knew about him before his senior year, but the national audience did not.

RJ is literally the opposite, he has been on the map for a while now, and should be one of the most popular athletes in the world in just a few years. Considering all of the most famous athletes in the world are basketball or soccer players (sports that allow for personality), RJ has a great chance.
Please see Bazooka Joe's post
 

Mac9192

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No, Mac, showing a Duke player dunking on another Duke player (in a 'practice') is not tacky, but labeling a Duke player as a 'one year wonder' (by a Duke fan) certainly clears the hurdle of bad taste.

OFC
Wow Dirt. The term "one year wonder" is simply in relation to the time he will be at Duke. I think it was tacky to show Barrett dunking on a kid who's sacrificed for the team for 4 years, and who's limited, like I said.

Sorry but we are just gonna have to agree to disagree here.
 

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No, Mac, showing a Duke player dunking on another Duke player (in a 'practice') is not tacky, but labeling a Duke player as a 'one year wonder' (by a Duke fan) certainly clears the hurdle of bad taste.

OFC
He did the same with Bagley last year, always throwing shade at his name at every opportunity. It's like he has some personal vendetta against a stud who clearly isn't gonna be at Duke for 4 years. It's sad. Very annoying, and honestly embarrassing for other posters.

But it's nothing new, I look forward to challenging him these next 9 months. I don't know how he is gonna root for Duke with all these young freshman who are only expecting to be here for 1 year. But I'll be fascinated to read his bizarre comments.
 
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He did the same with Bagley last year, always throwing shade at his name at every opportunity. It's like he has some personal vendetta against a stud who clearly isn't gonna be at Duke for 4 years. It's sad. Very annoying, and honestly embarrassing for other posters.

But it's nothing new, I look forward to challenging him these next 9 months. I don't know how he is gonna root for Duke with all these young freshman who are only expecting to be here for 1 year. But I'll be fascinated to read his bizarre comments.
Let's see here. I enjoyed Carter, Duval, Jackson, Tatum, Ingram, Jones, Okafor, Winslow.
How long they are here has never been the problem with me, it's how I think it goes with them while they're here.

And being challenged by you? Haha, right.
 
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Vrank actually hustled back on defense and was in a two one situation because his teammates didn’t hustle back and gave up on the play. He was hosed and got dunked on because he was in a no win situation.

It looks like Vrank has lost some weight and is more mobile than in past years.

RJ will be one of the best players in the country this year if not the best.
 

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He did the same with Bagley last year, always throwing shade at his name at every opportunity. It's like he has some personal vendetta against a stud who clearly isn't gonna be at Duke for 4 years. It's sad. Very annoying, and honestly embarrassing for other posters.

But it's nothing new, I look forward to challenging him these next 9 months. I don't know how he is gonna root for Duke with all these young freshman who are only expecting to be here for 1 year. But I'll be fascinated to read his bizarre comments.
He’s about to be the only poster I put on ignore. I love Vrank, but I LOVE seeing that hunger and hustle by RJ. I guess MAC doesn’t get it! SMH!
 

Mac9192

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This has gotten ridiculous. I have no problem with RJ dunking on Vrank. That part is no big deal. I'm not gonna lie to anyone here either, I like Vrank and what he has meant for Duke. Apparently I'm one of the few that wishes it wouldn't have been posted.

It was not meant as disrespectful to Barrett by calling him a one year wonder. I thought that part was self explanatory, but I guess that's what I get for assuming. After all, July-April is close to one year.
 
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I love Vrank. I think maybe this year we will say some nice things about him. He is a Duke Blue Devil. He's a four year player. I love four year players. He has done everything asked of him since he came to Duke. Coach K didn't lie to him. Vrank has known his role for 3 years. There will be times when we need him this year. I hope we can support him this year in the same manner he supports Duke. Regardless of his body language on the bench or facial expressions he will not transfer. I wonder if sometimes when we are analyzing body language and facial expressions may be they have to fart or something. I wonder if the cameras were on us during our daily routines if it may just be something normal. I know if the camera was on me some would say he's sad. Something must be on his mind or I know that look. His wife is leaving him. I think body language is blown way out of proportion. OFC
 
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You can't do that. I don't know how good this kid is or will be, but you made a cardinal mistake saying a kid going somewhere else may be better than a kid Duke recruited.
If Duke doesn't recruit them, then they're not good enough, or at least that's the case with some on this board.

Now, you’re dogging players and posters again. You just can’t help it man. Above is a post you made on the Mclung thread. You wonder why posters question you man but look at your posts. I’ve tried to lay off you and just see where you go, you always go to the same place. You are constantly negative and people just don’t dig that buddy. You seem to have but one objective, to absolutely cause friction. And you’re succeeding.
 

Showenuff

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And we already know you’re response, you love Duke, you’re never negative, Gosh man, you’re so dadgum frustrating.
 

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Vrank actually hustled back on defense and was in a two one situation because his teammates didn’t hustle back and gave up on the play. He was hosed and got dunked on because he was in a no win situation.
/QUOTE]

Nice post Tross. Good to see some love for Vrank.You were spot on about the play too. The murder committed and "R.I.P. Vrank" comment was uncalled for and in "bad taste."

OFC
 
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Showenuff

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Stop getting all tensed up when posters brag about RJ’s future man, the kid is going to be great. And yes, we know he will.
 

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Good dunk but I don't think it was that incredible. Also, I can barely make it all out lol.
 

Mac9192

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Stop getting all tensed up when posters brag about RJ’s future man, the kid is going to be great. And yes, we know he will.
Has nothing to do with RJ. I hope he is great. I'll be honest with you Show. I haven't agreed with you some, but Jwill is on another level.
He is nothing but a regurgitated Tar Hole fan from the late 80's and 90's. They used to brag about their talented rosters, gloat to Duke fans who had the future nba players. Years ago it meant nothing to Duke fans, most of us said we only cared about their time at Duke, now it's the dang rave, and we seemed so concerned with winning the recruiting title.
They say what goes around, comes around.
 

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I've been a duke fan all of my life, born and raised in NC. Years ago, great players stayed in school for 4 years. Where else were they going? I truly believe all the former duke greats would of left as well, if they played in the current time frame. I see it as a change in life as well as opportunities that players are taking advantage of just as anybody else would. For me, I could care less if the guys are here for 1 year or 4 years. As long as they represent the school I'm a die hard fan of in a positive way and try to help win a national title while here, what more can a true fan ask for? If people can't look around and realize things are different than they were 20 years ago, then bless your heart!
I still care about their time at duke. Just because it's not the amount of time I may like don't change me. As far as recruiting, the GOAT have always recruited top kids and had several top ranked classes before one and done came along. Maybe it's not so much the change with the one and done, but the refusal to see the game has changed. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Has nothing to do with RJ. I hope he is great. I'll be honest with you Show. I haven't agreed with you some, but Jwill is on another level.
He is nothing but a regurgitated Tar Hole fan from the late 80's and 90's. They used to brag about their talented rosters, gloat to Duke fans who had the future nba players. Years ago it meant nothing to Duke fans, most of us said we only cared about their time at Duke, now it's the dang rave, and we seemed so concerned with winning the recruiting title.
They say what goes around, comes around.

Times have drastically changed. Most kids with NBA talent are gone within a year no matter where they are projected to be drafted. Tent Jr was a second round pick and so was Frank Jackson. Trevon Duval wasn’t drafted at all. College basketball is more watered down then in he past. The best players in the country last year were mostly Freshmen and most likely again this year.

It very rare that a kid sticks around three to four years if he is projected to be a first round draft pick these days. Laettner, Hurley, Hill, Battier, Jay Williams would all gone pro after one maybe two year’s max if they played college basketball today.

For the elite programs like Duke only role players like Matt Jones, Jack White, Amile Jefferson stick around for four years because they have to.
 

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I think this is a very tacky thing to post. Showing a seldom used senior, one who gives it all, but is a little limited, getting dunked on by a one year wonder?
I get what you’re saying Mac. And I thought tacky was a smart word choice there.

But you know that calling RJ a one year wonder is going to receive some backlash, and deservedly so.
 

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This has gotten ridiculous. I have no problem with RJ dunking on Vrank. That part is no big deal. I'm not gonna lie to anyone here either, I like Vrank and what he has meant for Duke. Apparently I'm one of the few that wishes it wouldn't have been posted.

It was not meant as disrespectful to Barrett by calling him a one year wonder. I thought that part was self explanatory, but I guess that's what I get for assuming. After all, July-April is close to one year.

Whether or not I agree, I think this is a reasonable take.
 

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Has nothing to do with RJ. I hope he is great. I'll be honest with you Show. I haven't agreed with you some, but Jwill is on another level.
He is nothing but a regurgitated Tar Hole fan from the late 80's and 90's. They used to brag about their talented rosters, gloat to Duke fans who had the future nba players. Years ago it meant nothing to Duke fans, most of us said we only cared about their time at Duke, now it's the dang rave, and we seemed so concerned with winning the recruiting title.
They say what goes around, comes around.

I think I have finally figured you out. You genuinely worry about what UNC fans think. It’s absolutely ruining your enjoyment of the team you love. 100%. It’s that or you’re a pretty talented troll.
 
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I regularly have disagreed with @Mac9192 on here but I truly don’t see the big deal about his posts ITT. He thought the video was tacky (as do I) and was showing his support for a Senior Duke player. Some of you just wanna complain and whine. Yet, the “new” guys are running posters off?
 

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I think I have finally figured you out. You genuinely worry about what UNC fans think. It’s absolutely ruining your enjoyment of the team you love. 100%. It’s that or you’re a pretty talented troll.
I could care less what unc fans think. I've despised them for over 30 years. Honestly I expect their fans to be delusional or blind, but I never thought I would read things from Duke fans that are as tunnel visioned as what gets posted on our site.
I realize it is a Duke board, and a slant that way is to be expected, but when it's only sunshine allowed, I have a hard time accepting that.
Do you realize a mod today said he thought some of our fans were too obsessed with U.K.? Believe me pal, I ain't no troll. I call it like I see it, love Duke, but from where I sit, there is little difference between a lot of Duke, UK, and unc MESSAGE board fans.

Yes, I get negative some, and complain about K and Duke, but I'm also quick to praise. All you have to do is read all my posts, then report back to me.
 
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I just don't see what the big deal was with the dunk. Nothing special but the pass to to RJ was actually better than the dunk. I also imagine Vrank has been on the receiving end on many dunks equal to or better than that one.
 
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Vrank actually hustled back on defense and was in a two one situation because his teammates didn’t hustle back and gave up on the play. He was hosed and got dunked on because he was in a no win situation. He could be a solid piece next season in small spurts- If you're a Soph in college you are in UPPER CLASS-MEN! I like what JGOLD brings!

It looks like Vrank has lost some weight and is more mobile than in past years.

RJ will be one of the best players in the country this year if not the best.

Yuuup...not to mention I think Goldwire had a nice steal and Dunk right before that play. Jordan Goldwire is a tough/heady smart player who is unselfish and plays with a lot of energy. Likewise with Vrank, though we obviously havent seen much of him at all outside of that little stretch with Capel .

If Bolden isnt playing well nightly/and or gets injured again (fingers crossed)...coach K has 3 decisions. 1. Play Javin at C which he will most likely due as he brings a lot of winning things to the court but he also fouls at a ridiculous rate as well and sometimes hes not very fluid with the ball, I'll definitely be curious to see how much a JR Jav has improved.

2nd option would be Zion at the 5 with Alex for K in Dukes version of the small ball depth lineup. Which we should definitely see as well at times. But the 3rd option would be big SR Antonio VRANK...big is a monster 7'0 270 while slow footed and not very athletic has decent potential as a rebounder/defender and is very fluid with the ball has a passer. On some nights we may need the bulk in the paint- a talker like Vrank , maybe even the first game against the size of UK. Dude put up monster HS numbers...This was 3 years ago. Kid has earned a little PT here and there this season to prove himself without worry he'll be yanked on the first mistake. ALWAYS stay ready!! Hes improved immensely playing with Croatia and practicing against the stud BIGS all last season...Hopefully he ends a champion!!



All I know is...Duke has A LOT of young stuuuud talent but the upper class-men are just as important. Duke better not be getting out rebounded/out hustled/out manned EVER next season with the likes of Vrank and Jack White or Jordan Goldwire record DNPs!!:)
 
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I think the video is a good insight into how quick RJ can explode off the floor and throw it down. This kind of thing happens all of the time during these kind of pick up games at this level. I’m sure Vrank has gotten got many times before and will again.

JJ Redick was talking about a time he got posterized just this past season- it happens to everyone, you laugh about it and move on. There was no disrespect intended with the “RIP” comment- it’s just one of those things that kids say when someone gets owned, dunked on, crossed up, game winner three’d etc. the oooohhhhh shiiiiit moment if you will. Anyone who’s played sports i assume has been on both sides of this at some point. Maybe even over a game of beer pong.

As for Vrank and his contributions this year. My hope is that Bolden is playing at a very high level and is healthy all season. Vrank can play in limited spot duty and serve admirably in that capacity. I we are having to rely on him for long stretches i think that might really hinder the way K probably wants to play with this group.
 

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I actually don’t have an issue with what @Mac9192 said in this thread. Quite honestly, I rolled my eyes more with the comment in the McClung thread.

Here’s an example of what I was hoping wouldn’t happen. Because he’s been so constantly negative in the past, perfectly normal responses feel or are perceived as more of that agenda, and this time I don’t think it was the case.

Either way, I personally don’t have an issue here. And I’m not going to tell anyone else whether they can have an issue or not. If nothing else let’s just try to keep things as close to topic as we can. In this case, what happened in the video.
 

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Vrank actually hustled back on defense and was in a two one situation because his teammates didn’t hustle back and gave up on the play. He was hosed and got dunked on because he was in a no win situation.

It looks like Vrank has lost some weight and is more mobile than in past years.

RJ will be one of the best players in the country this year if not the best.

This is what I took from this video. Tony was moving well for a guy his size. He’s made some nice improvements in his time at Duke. To the point where he’s playing on his national team and will probably be a solid professional overseas for years. I just wish the kid could have found more of a niche with these small ball lineups K has played. His size and around the rim efficiency is still a commodity.
 
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Hustle Vrank. Atleast he wasn’t scared to get dunked on and attempted to block it.

Bet RJ told him good job now work on that timing. We’re looking at the Dunk like it’s not a teaching moment. Where was the rest of his team while seven foot Vrank was playing two on one and one being the best high schooler playing the game.
 

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I could care less what unc fans think. I've despised them for over 30 years. Honestly I expect their fans to be delusional or blind, but I never thought I would read things from Duke fans that are as tunnel visioned as what gets posted on our site.
I realize it is a Duke board, and a slant that way is to be expected, but when it's only sunshine allowed, I have a hard time accepting that.
Do you realize a mod today said he thought some of our fans were too obsessed with U.K.? Believe me pal, I ain't no troll. I call it like I see it, love Duke, but from where I sit, there is little difference between a lot of Duke, UK, and unc MESSAGE board fans.

Yes, I get negative some, and complain about K and Duke, but I'm also quick to praise. All you have to do is read all my posts, then report back to me.

Ok, fair enough.