In an LJS article with Simple said the mistakes have to stop. Cam has to "get his fast ball down" It doesn't matter how explosive he is and the potential if he can't make the snap he needs to move to guard. The mental side may be too much for him
Rimington comments on offense
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"Looked pretty good" doesn't tell the entire story at center. Rimington was referring to the mental side of making adjustments and line calls at the LOS as well. Just because he actually gets a snap back at the right place and even makes a good block, there is more to his job. This meshes with some of the other comments about communication, or lack of it, at the LOS.
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Oh I agree, I was just more responding to the OP. Is the "the mental part may be too much for him" part of the article or was that OP's opinion?
I still wish the staff would consider converting Jurgens to the dead snap. If he tossed a "floater" once in a while it would throw off the timing of the play, but at least it wouldn't sail over the QB's head and result in a drive-killing 2nd-and-23.
I may be in the minority but I think many of Martinez’ yip issues are directly related to poor snaps throwing the timing of the play and his ability to focus on reading a defense out the window. There is no disputing he struggles with this to begin with but it’s obvious that every second becomes even more valuable than chasing down a poor snap.
Yes, and while a switch to the dead snap may not completely eliminate that problem, it would probably reduce it. Seems worth a try.
That is certainly an issue on those plays where the timing gets thrown off but it isn't every play and AM has not shown the ability to see the field and make decisions when the snap is perfect.
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Dave has to be scratching his head after having someone like our center being deemed as the next Remington. Hope Scott is more careful going forward with making such statements.
Well for sure he's calling out Frost on this, after Frost bragged how Cam was going to be a Rimington trophy all American whatever it was. He could also be addressing the position coach, and while it's unlikely that it's intended for the kid himself, he's now heard about it as well. So, that's 3 levels or several.
I mean if I'm a kid, and some guy on a message board says I suck, who cares. But if the guy the trophy was named after has something to say, people are going to listen right?
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What does Johnny Rodgers have to say about our special teams? He has a trophy named after him too!
Or he's just saying what we are all saying. Snap the dam ball on point or change positions. But sure, maybe it's all the tin foil hat stuff too.
well you asked what I meant by several levels, so I told you. I don't know what your problem is.
When the best center to ever play the position speaks up.. and he’s a former Husker, wouldn’t it be nice to have Frost invite him to off-season spring camp and work with Cam and other Centers? Two years of consistent mistakes, anything moving forward would be a positive!
I don't link. Go to journal star.com and it's there. You can have a few reads for free.
Two thoughts:
1. I feel bad for kids getting raked through the media for their short comings, but it comes with being a Husker, and we all want the Cams, the Adrians, the Matts, the Lukes to be successful.
They need to be able to take the heat, and quite honestly, I think we rarely get any indication they don’t handle the critiques like champs. They’re aware of their own issues obviously.
2. My bold prediction is Cam makes a big leap forward both with snaps and overall blocking.
Not that there will never be a bad snap, but I think the days of routine snap failure are gonna be put behind him.
1. I feel bad for kids getting raked through the media for their short comings, but it comes with being a Husker, and we all want the Cams, the Adrians, the Matts, the Lukes to be successful.
They need to be able to take the heat, and quite honestly, I think we rarely get any indication they don’t handle the critiques like champs. They’re aware of their own issues obviously.
2. My bold prediction is Cam makes a big leap forward both with snaps and overall blocking.
Not that there will never be a bad snap, but I think the days of routine snap failure are gonna be put behind him.
I watched a lot of college football this fall and just about every team I watched has dealt with bad snaps at times. I can't remember the team now, but I think it was Miami maybe, had a guy bouncing the ball to his QB at least once on every series. Our issues were on the extreme side of the ledgers but I watched an NFL long snapper a couple of weeks ago cost his team a game with a bad snap on a field goal try.
When TO was running the show, his offense was considered the most complexed in the country. It may not have looked like it as we were primarily a running team and sprinkled in play action, what made it complex was the OL. The OL were the smartest players in the O and had to be as for every play in that playbook there were at least 10-12 different blocking schemes with a half dozen audibles or so and they had to know every single one of them. The OL is what made that offense go. How I know about this is my cousin played OL for DONU back in the mid to late 80s and I saw his playbook. This is gonna be pretty much the complexity of this OL as well maybe not as much. They have an awful lot to learn. As far as Jurgens goes, I get what Rimington said as the Center is the QB of that line and has to be the smartest of them all as he calls the plays and changes on the line and I don't know if he is smart enough to get everything down as it's an awful lot to digest
Frost has not learned to shut his mouth about anything....schedule.....refs.....clapping.....media time outs....etc.....he acts like a whiney 5 year old sometimes.
going into year 4 and one of the hot off season topics and areas of concern remains one of the most basic elements of the game - snapping the football
what a huge indictment of this staff that they do not seem to have the wherewithal to be able to competently deal with this
furthermore I feel horrible for Jurgens - was a 4* recruit who committed early due to his love of Neb and would have had numerous other big time options
he arrives on campus and before he he can even get his bags unpacked - using his love for Neb football and dropping the name of Rimington - he is manipulated into moving to center despite this not being a topic during his recruitment - Rimington's name is even disgracefully invoked when talking to the media about a kid who has never played the position
the kid has become a pariah and to his credit has kept his mouth shut despite having no interest in playing the position or guard for that matter
now we have a husker legend and fans questioning his mentality to play the position
the kid was hoodwinked into moving to center by pulling on his heart strings and his love of DONU - was forced to put on a bunch of unhealthy weight with potential life long adverse health consequences and robbed of the opportunity to develop into a potential NFL talent at a more natural position
absolutely disgraceful - the staff should be ashamed of themselves
what a huge indictment of this staff that they do not seem to have the wherewithal to be able to competently deal with this
furthermore I feel horrible for Jurgens - was a 4* recruit who committed early due to his love of Neb and would have had numerous other big time options
he arrives on campus and before he he can even get his bags unpacked - using his love for Neb football and dropping the name of Rimington - he is manipulated into moving to center despite this not being a topic during his recruitment - Rimington's name is even disgracefully invoked when talking to the media about a kid who has never played the position
the kid has become a pariah and to his credit has kept his mouth shut despite having no interest in playing the position or guard for that matter
now we have a husker legend and fans questioning his mentality to play the position
the kid was hoodwinked into moving to center by pulling on his heart strings and his love of DONU - was forced to put on a bunch of unhealthy weight with potential life long adverse health consequences and robbed of the opportunity to develop into a potential NFL talent at a more natural position
absolutely disgraceful - the staff should be ashamed of themselves
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Here are some examples from Scott Frost after the Purdue game...I think they explain a lot:
On Cameron Jurgens’ performance at center:
“No, we need to get it fixed so we're gonna get as much help and as many ideas as we can to get it fixed. He's too good of a player not to have on the field. He's too good of a player to even consider moving him out of that role or moving him somewhere else. But we can't continue the way we're going.
And then there is this GEM: (still talking about bad snaps during the game)
"We did a study this week and we scored on our drives where we don't have a penalty, a bad snap or a turnover. We scored on over 90% of those drives and we just had far too many."
(I shook my head at this...at least he does recognize an issue after doing a "study")
On Cameron Jurgens’ performance at center:
“No, we need to get it fixed so we're gonna get as much help and as many ideas as we can to get it fixed. He's too good of a player not to have on the field. He's too good of a player to even consider moving him out of that role or moving him somewhere else. But we can't continue the way we're going.
And then there is this GEM: (still talking about bad snaps during the game)
"We did a study this week and we scored on our drives where we don't have a penalty, a bad snap or a turnover. We scored on over 90% of those drives and we just had far too many."
(I shook my head at this...at least he does recognize an issue after doing a "study")
Cam at center, Wandale at RB, Luke at QB, Mo Washington at RB, Warner at WR everyone is out of position
Cam was recruited as a TE.
Wandale as slot receiver... played both receiver and RB, RB when Mills was injured.
Luke was recruited as a QB. Mo recruited as an RB. Warner (a walk on when recruited) as a WR.
The only one you can definitively claim is playing out of position is Cam. Unless you just want to make stuff up to ***** about. Then carry on.
Didn’t a lot of folks feel like his natural and potentially best position was CB? Thought that’s why we got him