There is so much luck that goes into it. I would bet anything that Indiana was just hoping to get respectable under Cignetti. There is no way they believed he would elevate them to the top. No effing way.
Rhule to Penn State
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Yep and for every Cignetti out there who's success translates to the next level, there are a lot more who can't hack it at the next level.
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At a school like IU, when it comes to football, you know they were just hoping to beat Purdue and get to a bowl game every other year.
They literally hit the jackpot with what is going on right now.
Lol. Most of the fan base despises Jay - he's not involved with PSU athletics (beyond BOT, which most people want him and Lubrano gone, except for some JoeBots). You are misinformed -- the scandal had nothing to do with PSU athletics (which is why they pulled back the sanctions). All but 1 incident occured off university grounds and was done by a 3rd party organization led by a former coach.
But, anyway, being a total dick to some random person who had nothing to do with any of that shows a childish maturity. Have a good day.
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We're/Rhule is kind of in a weird place. He wins some of these remaining games (USC/Iowa/Bowl) he becomes more attractive to Penn St. He loses several of them and he becomes less attractive to us. 
Here's a coach that some program is going to snatch up and he's going to be a winner. Yes he's from James Madison, his name is Bob Chesney he's 48 he took over for Cignetti, he's won at every other stop he's been at. Nebraska would never take a chance on a no big name coach from the Sun Belt Conference but some school will and watch what happens.
I wonder if Pelini would get any interest if wanted to coach again.
Sign him up with a deeply insensitive based contract
No problem, I was really just curious what kind of insensitive contract Chesney would accept. I'm just kidding with you, I've had many fails on this board and some people just were relentless and not in a good way. On a serious note these are the type coaches I wish Nebraska would look at instead of the same old retreads we get.Oopsspellcheck fail
Incentive based contract
it almost seems like penn state has to go the coordinator route - like ohio state's hartline - because no available head coach would be seen as a better option than the one they canned for $50 million.
urban would be a media slam dunk but doubt he's returning. it's complicated by elko's success at aTm which is perceived equal to penn state, and lane likely narrowed down to lsu and flordia if not oxford.
a lot of decision makers sweating bullets today, methinks. while agents rub their hands. the resulting churn is going to be great drama as well.
urban would be a media slam dunk but doubt he's returning. it's complicated by elko's success at aTm which is perceived equal to penn state, and lane likely narrowed down to lsu and flordia if not oxford.
a lot of decision makers sweating bullets today, methinks. while agents rub their hands. the resulting churn is going to be great drama as well.
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I saw something today on Yahoo that really pissed me off. From Ericka Brockish writing for CBS sports, she predicted Nebraska would end up with Matt Campbell to replace Rhule once he leaves for Penn State. Matt F..king Campbel!!! Perfect. Another 56% winning coach (ISU) who has averaged 5.4 losses per season over his 10-year career in Ames. The fewest number of losses in a complete season is three that he has done just twice. So far ISU only has 3 losses this season, but they have Arizona State (+7.5) at home and TCU on the road along with KU and at the hapless Okie State Cowboys. The article states "Campbell has proven he can win with what he has at Iowa State, and he could have so much more at Nebraska" This statement explains why delusional ADs keep on hiring retread coaches. Coaches do not become better coaches just because they move to a new school. The BIG 10 > Big 12 so it is even harder to win.
She has one of my favorites, Will Stein, going to U Dub and Chesney to South Carolina.
She has one of my favorites, Will Stein, going to U Dub and Chesney to South Carolina.
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campbell had a preseason #6 outfit littered with nfl guys like broke purdy that finished 7-6. he's never won the b12. but he's a first class dude. well respected by everyone. and able to keep his staff together including a fine d'coordinator.
Why would your fans throw **** at kids and yell cuss words at kids and tell me to **** myself walking into the stadium. **** you and your disgusting fan base. We don't care about your opinion.
Nothing you said merits about Campbell justifies hiring him if Rhule leaves for Penn State. Mike Riley was a nice guy. Matt Rhule wants you to believe he is a nice, sincere guy. I do not think true winners are necessarily well respected nice guys.
I think it is healthy to do an exercise. Pretend that you have never been a husker fan, that you watched Michigan in 1995 and only saw some highlights of Tommy Frazier running, and were pissed at Nebraska when they took the MNC in 1997. And you were exhilarated when their program imploded starting the next year. Nothing made you happier than watching Nebraska get embarrassed by Miami in 2002. Then fast forward 23 years, Nebraska has been non-existent in anything meaningful but also one of the worst programs over the last decade, with four different coaches and one of the largest collections of buyouts. You have been asked to predict their next coach because predictably their current decent coach is going to jump ship. From that perspective Matt Campbell sounds pretty good. Almost nobody cares about Nebraska at all...the last time somebody wondered if "Nebraska was back" was probably in 2011. We deserve a mediocre coach, but we at least should pay them a mediocre salary.
I do not take any solace in your statement even if it was said in jest. I guess I should just have low expectations. Besides some writer stating it would be good for the Huskers to hire another mediocre coach, infuriating me even further is the same article stated U Dub will go after a young and dynamic coach in Will Stein. Exactly what I think the Huskers should do.
Lol, you're funny. I won't judge your whole fanbase based upon one person, though, unlike you
I’m not a Matt Campbell fan but he’s shown he can find talent and develop it. ISU has crap for facilities and financial support but somehow still puts competitive teams on the field. It would be interesting to see what he could do at Penn State. I think he’s a great fit at ISU Aa d he’s probably smart to stay there.
That will never happen. Oh, hiring another 50 something % winning coach is likely to happen, but paying him just a mediocre salary will never happen. I sometimes think the powers to be in Lincoln believe if they just throw around enough dollars, I am guessing it will be over $10 million per year, it will prove to the world and us fans that they made the right hire.
Why do so many Husker fans believe all of UNL's state-of-the-art new facilities, large recruiting budget and immense funding are a difference maker? All these assets do not make an average coach into a great coach. It did not help Riley or Frost win more games and so far, the same thing can be said about Matt Rhule.
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I think it will happen, and quickly The prevailing attitude is that college football is out of control in its spending and that the changes recently have made it more like the NFL. Teams are quickly realizing they need a general manager and need to separate NIL, Recruiting, and Roster decisions away from the coaches. The coaches now need to be exceptional at game planning and scheme design to take advantage of different rosters every year. High school recruits are basically worthless or even a waste of resources outside of a few highly paid ones that are willing to stay and develop. The teams that are winning are willing to replace starters by just not paying them and going out and getting better guys...paying a coach 12-15 million a year to be a great teacher, game-planner, scheme designer but also accountant, salary manager, recruiter, and roster manager isn't realistic. Just because you pay someone infinite amounts of money doesn't make them more capable or talented.
Are you serious? There will be at least another 20 coaches available by the end of the year.
I could already name a bunch that i would rather have than Matt right now and that is after the top 4-5 places that are open get who they want. Heck right now I would be more than happy to have Franklin over Ruhle. Anyone with half a brain would take that. If Ruhle wants to leave so be it. If he wants to stay I'm fine with that. I'm pretty sure most will be calling for his head though by the end of the season. If not this year, for sure next year. The schedule is very easy this year and we will be lucky to win 7 games.
I'm willing to put $500 right now that Ruhle is not the next coach at Penn State. If there was a way to verify it I'd also be willing to bet that he was never offered the job.
Are you? The context of the original post was that once you get past Saban and Urban (who aren't likely in play), there aren't many can't miss candidates on the table. And there won't be. Yes, there will be more coaches available by year's end. Duh. How many that are "can't miss" or thaaaaat big of a step up from Rhule? Not a lot, and the few there will likely go to better places than Penn State.
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Okay, name them if you're Penn State. And no, Franklin doesn't count. You've just fired him. And explain how they'll be that much easier of a sell to your fanbase than Rhule (again, context of the original posts).
Look, I am faaaaaar from a Rhule apologist. I'm just dealing with the reality of the landscape here.
Wow, really going out on a limb there, aren't you? I get Rhule, a 50% winning percentage coach, and you get the entire rest of the field for even money? Gee, where do I sign up for that action?
Remember most of this NU fan base is so hard up for wins and national relevancy they'll grasp at any straws to remain hopeful.
I think if you go out and hire a rising young coach it’s a similar gamble. Taking a moribund bottom feeder like ISU to multiple bowls is a difficult task. I hope Campbell stays at ISU. He’s a great fit and and I have friends in Ag business who are ISU alums and great people.
It's hard to take a program adapted to losing make them a consistent winner. Nebraska had become such a team. Teams like that routinely lose games they should have won or could have won. That seems to be largely in the past for NU, but it took the better part of two seasons to change losing as the default setting. However, the B1G is a much more competitive league than when NU entered and then started its near decade of losing.
penn state is likely to hire a coordinator now because the logical replacements like elko, freeman, and lane seem to be off the table. tulane's sumrall is probably going to florida or lsu. i suppose they could take drinkwitz. but that would be a reach. my guess is osu's brian hartline.
Not too much demand for a defensive coach that can't put a good defense on the field.