Recruiting, transfers and NIL

dinglefritz

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Man if I’m a college coach who has a chance to take an NFL job, I’m taking it in heartbeat over a college position. I can’t imagine having to suck up to 16-22 year olds to recruit and try to keep my roster intact. It’s a 24/7/365 job. 🙄
 
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...and while you're at it would you kindly tell us how many miles you walked to school in the snow when you were a kid, uphill both ways of course!!

...i'm with ya, but college coaches now are signing 10-20mil contracts, or more. So i'd be willing to do it.
 

SickOfPractice

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I'm wondering how long it might be before we hear of a big name college coach stepping down because, "This is not the same game I signed up for."
 

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Wasn’t that Saban already?
After his retirement, Saban said that during his last season, "maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring; and how much are you going to pay me?"
 

V-Doub

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After his retirement, Saban said that during his last season, "maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring; and how much are you going to pay me?"

I bet if you could get Mike Cryzetschekee to be completely candid he’d say the same thing. Hell T.O. would probably say something similar, landscape changed on him going into the new Big XII run by texass. In the end, when you finally crack the code to winning at the highest level and then “they” change all the locks; I’d dip out too if I was already at retirement age.
 

Kakdawg

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Man if I’m a college coach who has a chance to take an NFL job, I’m taking it in heartbeat over a college position. I can’t imagine having to suck up to 16-22 year olds to recruit and try to keep my roster intact. It’s a 24/7/365 job. 🙄


I agree but maybe in a case like ours a HC like Ruhle who has seen both sides still might seem more comfortable in college

Again though I agree with u.



Holla
 

Kakdawg

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After his retirement, Saban said that during his last season, "maybe 70 or 80 percent of the players you talk to, all they want to know is two things: What assurances do I have that I'm going to play because they're thinking about transferring; and how much are you going to pay me?"


Allot easier for st Nick when the checks were cut under the table lol.


Holla
 

Kakdawg

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I bet if you could get Mike Cryzetschekee to be completely candid he’d say the same thing. Hell T.O. would probably say something similar, landscape changed on him going into the new Big XII run by texass. In the end, when you finally crack the code to winning at the highest level and then “they” change all the locks; I’d dip out too if I was already at retirement age.

Kirby Smart had it figured out also.


Holla
 

dinglefritz

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I agree but maybe in a case like ours a HC like Ruhle who has seen both sides still might seem more comfortable in college

Again though I agree with u.



Holla
I don’t think he will get another shot at 8 million per year in the NFL.
 

dinglefritz

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...and while you're at it would you kindly tell us how many miles you walked to school in the snow when you were a kid, uphill both ways of course!!

...i'm with ya, but college coaches now are signing 10-20mil contracts, or more. So i'd be willing to do it.
Roughly one mile. Uphill both ways. They should have given us dogsleds. 😉. I get the money, but if you can get the same money and not have to recruit? No brainer.
 

dinglefritz

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Saban bailed after it became ok for other schools to pay players. Weird how much harder is it to win national titles when everyone is paying players.
He’s also 73 and has a net worth north of 70 million. He would be stupid to keep coaching. Go live a little
 
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Difference is having the highest payroll among a dozen or so vs. dozens. Expanded playoff and NIL weren't good for Saban. Not random that he bailed when he did.

I think he was the oldest coach in D-1 when he stepped down?? IIRC?? Guessing that was tye main driver...it was just time. NIL was more of a coincidence.
 

Huskers123456

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I think he was the oldest coach in D-1 when he stepped down?? IIRC?? Guessing that was tye main driver...it was just time. NIL was more of a coincidence.
Nah. It came out of nowhere. Guy like Saban was going to coach forever. The path to NC's got much more difficult with NIL, expanded playoff, Texas joining the SEC. The days of Bama getting the benefit of the doubt and automatically getting into a 4 team playoff were over.

Great coach, obviously, but his built in advantages were over.
 
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Nah. It came out of nowhere. Guy like Saban was going to coach forever. The path to NC's got much more difficult with NIL, expanded playoff, Texas joining the SEC. The days of Bama getting the benefit of the doubt and automatically getting into a 4 team playoff were over.

Great coach, obviously, but his built in advantages were over.

Expanded playoff helped 'Bama, with their name, they get in with 3 losse. Texas joining SEC had zilcho to do with Nick hanging it up. He was old and tired of the grind, and the fact he was the oldest coach kinda means he did coach forever.
 

Huskers123456

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Expanded playoff helped 'Bama, with their name, they get in with 3 losse. Texas joining SEC had zilcho to do with Nick hanging it up. He was old and tired of the grind, and the fact he was the oldest coach kinda means he did coach forever.
I disagree. Prior to the last few years Bama always got the benefit of being Bama. Once in, they only had to win 2 games. They also had the benefit of having a top 2 or 3 roster.

Compare that to going forward, where they might have the 5th or 6th best roster, might have to go on the road up north, and have to win multiple games. Their players are now being recruited by other schools, while on the Bama roster.

All that is a far cry from even 5 years ago. The Bama built in advantages evaporated in a few years. So Saban bailed.
 

huskerj12

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Bo obviously had way larger issues, but it's funny to imagine how much his brain would've exploded if he coached during this era. No doubt in my mind that he would've just called it a day rather than navigate all the craziness.
 

dinglefritz

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Nah. It came out of nowhere. Guy like Saban was going to coach forever. The path to NC's got much more difficult with NIL, expanded playoff, Texas joining the SEC. The days of Bama getting the benefit of the doubt and automatically getting into a 4 team playoff were over.

Great coach, obviously, but his built in advantages were over.
Maybe but unless it’s a major health event it’s usually multiple factors NIL and transfers no doubt was a factor but you get to be that financially secure at that age and most guys start to ask themselves why. I understand that completely. I also understand guys who LOVE what they’re doing and never want to quit. Sometimes you just lose the fire.
 

IM4NUAlways_

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Man if I’m a college coach who has a chance to take an NFL job, I’m taking it in heartbeat over a college position. I can’t imagine having to suck up to 16-22 year olds to recruit and try to keep my roster intact. It’s a 24/7/365 job. 🙄
That is why they are hiring GM's.
 

king_kong_

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Expanded playoff helped 'Bama, with their name, they get in with 3 losse. Texas joining SEC had zilcho to do with Nick hanging it up. He was old and tired of the grind, and the fact he was the oldest coach kinda means he did coach forever.
His wife suffered a major health event, as well

That was what pushed him into retirement more than anything

It was reported on at the time
 

Huskers123456

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His wife suffered a major health event, as well

That was what pushed him into retirement more than anything

It was reported on at the time
I would be more likely to believe it was his wife's health if he didnt seem so bitter about NIL. Which I think is hypocritical coming from a Bama coach.
 

cavalot

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Money corrupts. College sports is no different than any other entity in which the almighty dollar reigns supreme.

It's a sad state of affairs.
 

Spinner45

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Money corrupts. College sports is no different than any other entity in which the almighty dollar reigns supreme.

It's a sad state of affairs.
Money corrupted this program long before NIL. Lots of people being paid by the program that don’t have crap to do with winning football games.

If anything NIL is more honest cause at least the money goes to the people winning and losing the games
 

dinglefritz

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Money corrupted this program long before NIL. Lots of people being paid by the program that don’t have crap to do with winning football games.

If anything NIL is more honest cause at least the money goes to the people winning and losing the games
You don’t think Bama players were getting paid before NIL?
 

Spinner45

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You don’t think Bama players were getting paid before NIL?

Yeah, that’s why the won. They were putting the money in the hands of people who really control outcomes of games. Failing to see your point?

And at least NIL makes it legal for everyone else to do. Any why bama, LSU, and UGA are losing their competitive advantage

What, are you in favor of large companies profiting off of Nebraska fans and not really helping achieve wins? Are you for servants to do the hard work and receive the minimum while the ones that are really irrelevant to the game making money?

Let’s put in new turf in 2025 so that we can replace it with grass in 2026. And let’s make the endzones red in 2025 so no one questions why the hell we just spent millions on something we will scrap next years
 
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dinglefritz

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You don’t think NU players were getting paid before NIL?
I have no doubt that Vince and BC were offering enticements. Our recruiting since then wouldn’t lead one to believe we were paying players under the table.
 
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king_kong_

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I have no doubt that Vince and BC were offering enticements. Our re rioting since one wouldn’t leave one to believe we were paying players under the table.
I would bet there hasn’t been a single season in the last 3.5 decades when NU players weren’t receiving at least some form of inadmissible benefit.
 

c3o

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I like the new paradigm. It will get better. Remember, we are still really early on and the game is being learned by all. At the moment it’s big bank wins. My guess is that someone will find a tactic that gets players to their team without having to shell out so much. And then everything will change because nothing matters in business except P&Ls
 

Truewooper

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Man if I’m a college coach who has a chance to take an NFL job, I’m taking it in heartbeat over a college position. I can’t imagine having to suck up to 16-22 year olds to recruit and try to keep my roster intact. It’s a 24/7/365 job. 🙄
I assume he has his support staff handle that. At least that's what I would use my huge support staff for.