Qualities needed for the next coach

[needmorecowbell]

RU needs a coach that's going to do two primary things. 1) completely rebuild the culture. Install a hard working, winning attitude that out works opponents. 2) completely rebuild the NJ/NY recruiting relationships. So we need someone that knows the landscape and has established relationships.

That doesn't leave Hobbs with a ton of options. RU is not getting a home run hire in the sense that the rest of the conference will say WOW. When you breakdown the options Dan Hurley fits our needs very well. Are there better coaches? Definitely. Would they come to RU or would they be a good fit for RU? probably not. There are some other good options for sure. Would Archie Miller come here? Maybe, maybe not. Is Herb Sendek the right guy? I could see that working. Dan seems the best balance of experience and local ties.

What we can't have is a big miss. We can't take a flyer on some guy who has little to no experience. This job is going to take someone who knows what to do and what to demand happen now.

In the end, I have complete trust in Hobbs. But those killing Hurley right now are a bit out of touch with our real options.

 

[higgins3]

Someone who relentlessly teaches fundamentals.

 

[higgins3]

Recruiting isnt as complicated as we make it out to be. Win and you can recruit. Hurley is a .500 coach. He had just ad many losses as he has wins.

 

[DocRU]

1. RECRUITING: Someone who is relentless about working the local AAU and High School circuits. A good start would be hiring an assistant who is or has close ties to AAU and HS basketball as well. Changing the culture in the locker room and on the court is a priority as you mention. But first the new coach has to change the local perception of Rutgers in recruiting.
2. COACHING: Not going to get fundamentals from an NBA coach. We learned that lesson painfully. The plan for coaching must be as detailed as the plan for recruiting. This board has seen countless arguments over the years about a "system coach" or not. Doesn't matter. What's needed is a coach who has experienced winning at the college level, not necessarily Power 5.

 

[higgins3]

Coaching is 1. You cant recruit if you cant win.

 

[higgins3]

Systems are selfish from a coachibg standpoint. You teach to what your players give you. you dont teach what YOU want to see as a coach.

 

[Ataylor1989x]

Honestly, I'm shocked that OntheBanks, Politi and Carino are pushing DH so hard.....the Md. Game incident is a red flag that would immediately be dredged up by RU haters and enemies within the moment he is hired. even if the guy is a winner, if he's that immature, it is not a good sign for the future.

 

[Fzacsattac]

Someone that teaches rebounding!

 

[SAE96]

I think we need someone who can recruit NJ, NYC, and Philadelphia. Unlike football, I think we are currently viewed as a regional school when it comes to BBall. I think this is true only because of how little exposure RU basketball gets outside the area.

 

[MikeR0102]

Honestly, I'm shocked that OntheBanks, Politi and Carino are pushing DH so hard.....the Md. Game incident is a red flag that would immediately be dredged up by RU haters and enemies within the moment he is hired. even if the guy is a winner, if he's that immature, it is not a good sign for the future.

That;s why they are pushing him. Gives them stories to right.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

RU needs a coach that's going to do two primary things. 1) completely rebuild the culture. Install a hard working, winning attitude that out works opponents. 2) completely rebuild the NJ/NY recruiting relationships. So we need someone that knows the landscape and has established relationships.

That doesn't leave Hobbs with a ton of options. RU is not getting a home run hire in the sense that the rest of the conference will say WOW. When you breakdown the options Dan Hurley fits our needs very well. Are there better coaches? Definitely. Would they come to RU or would they be a good fit for RU? probably not. There are some other good options for sure. Would Archie Miller come here? Maybe, maybe not. Is Herb Sendek the right guy? I could see that working. Dan seems the best balance of experience and local ties.

What we can't have is a big miss. We can't take a flyer on some guy who has little to no experience. This job is going to take someone who knows what to do and what to demand happen now.

In the end, I have complete trust in Hobbs. But those killing Hurley right now are a bit out of touch with our real options.

Really? Tell us more!

Also, I don't think people are "killling" Hurley, right now, I think they're tired of EVERY local "press" guy PUSHING Hurley for this job over the past few days because, well, he really might not be the best "real option" for this position.

 

[ruman]

Really? Tell us more!

Also, I don't think people are "killling" Hurley, right now, I think they're tired of EVERY local "press" guy PUSHING Hurley for this job over the past few days because, well, he really might not be the best "real option" for this position.

Or maybe he is

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Or maybe he is

I clearly said "might not be" and, quite honestly, I'm in the corner that doesn't believe he's come close to proving his worth BUT could be a "home-run" hire. The only thing is can we take another "chance" AGAIN in this sport?

 

[needmorecowbell]

Really? Tell us more!

Also, I don't think people are "killling" Hurley, right now, I think they're tired of EVERY local "press" guy PUSHING Hurley for this job over the past few days because, well, he really might not be the best "real option" for this position.

There were plenty of people killing Hurley. But I'll play. What are the realistic better options?

 

[needmorecowbell]

There were plenty of people killing Hurley. But I'll play. What are the realistic better options?

To be honest it does matter what you and I think. With RU's budget and history it's impossible to bring in anyone that is a slam dunk. All our choices are a crap shoot. My opinion is we play the odds and get the biggest sure thing we can get. That leads me to Sendek and Hurley. Too many failures here in a row to miss again.

 

[RUJMM78]

RU needs a coach that's going to do two primary things. 1) completely rebuild the culture. Install a hard working, winning attitude that out works opponents. 2) completely rebuild the NJ/NY recruiting relationships. So we need someone that knows the landscape and has established relationships.

That doesn't leave Hobbs with a ton of options. RU is not getting a home run hire in the sense that the rest of the conference will say WOW. When you breakdown the options Dan Hurley fits our needs very well. Are there better coaches? Definitely. Would they come to RU or would they be a good fit for RU? probably not. There are some other good options for sure. Would Archie Miller come here? Maybe, maybe not. Is Herb Sendek the right guy? I could see that working. Dan seems the best balance of experience and local ties.

What we can't have is a big miss. We can't take a flyer on some guy who has little to no experience. This job is going to take someone who knows what to do and what to demand happen now.

In the end, I have complete trust in Hobbs. But those killing Hurley right now are a bit out of touch with our real options.

The number one requirement is reestablishing a recruiting base in the NJ/NY Metro area.As a prerequisite there must be announced dates for start and completion of the practice facility.No coach that is serious about taking this job would accept the position without such a statement from the athletic department.

 

[Ataylor1989x]

Masiello may be the best other option.

Local to the metro area. Championship and big time experience with Louisville. hEad coaching experience. Young, energetic.

His resume issue was taken care of. It's nowhere near the level of embarrassing that DH allegedly calling Md. Players expletives is.

And that issue probably made him redefine how grateful he would be to get a major job......so there you have a guy that might even view RU as his ultimate destination. I wonder if he has the same agent as Drew Mehringer.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

There were plenty of people killing Hurley. But I'll play. What are the realistic better options?

You're the one who made the comment, not me, so let's see what you've got?

 

[AreYouNUTS]

There were plenty of people killing Hurley. But I'll play. What are the realistic better options?

"But those killing Hurley right now are a bit out of touch with our real options"

...I believe you're the one who needs to tell us exactly who are "real options" are and why Hurley is better than all of them. I'm not the one who started this thread, right?

 

[needmorecowbell]

"But those killing Hurley right now are a bit out of touch with our real options"

...I believe you're the one who needs to tell us exactly who are "real options" are and why Hurley is better than all of them. I'm not the one who started this thread, right?

Did you read the middle of my post? I said Hurley and Sendek. Your turn.

 

[Rutgers36]

Hurley makes perfect sense. Local recruiting, fundamentals, toughness. program rebuilder. I really don't see some people's problem with him. Temperment? He doesn't like to lose. I'm fine with that. Fran Macaffrey(sp) knocked over a table of gatorade cups 2 years ago. Did Iowa fire him. No, of course not. He is a winner. They like to win. We lost 32 STRAIGHT Big Ten games. God Bless Eddie, I never saw him demonstrate any frustration. I suppose restraint is good, but being comfortable losing 32 in a row there is something not quite right. Did any see Coach K during a loss or a series of losses. He gets cranky. He has his way of lashing out. If you guys are looking for John Wooden or Dean Smith, winners with an off the charts level of class, they are gone, literally. Let's just do this and hire Danny. I'm totally on board. JUST DO IT.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Did you read the middle of my post? I said Hurley and Sendek. Your turn.

Sorry but you made it sound like you had some kind of info that nobody else had, regarding candidates, with that last sentence.

I believe that, at this point in their respective careers, Sendek is the smarter option BUT Hurley could - COULD - prove to be the "HR" hire that we've missed all these times. The problem is, IMHO, Hurley isn't a sure thing just yet and can we really afford to go down that route right now? I'll support him, from Day 1, but I'm not "sold" on him.

 

[needmorecowbell]

I watched a ton of the A10 this year and that conference is better than almost every mid major and as good as the Pac12. I am impressed with what Hurley did without his best player. If he stays, URI will be the one of the two two teams in that league next year.

 

[RUinFla]

AAU stuff is a den of snakes that puts kids noses out of joint and less willing to listen to their college coach--but that's the way of life these days. Still not getting the love for DH, who had a meltdown in undergrad days and may be way, way too emotionally fragile to coach in the Big 10. His choleric behavior and outbursts are a red flag some people are ignoring, perhaps at our peril, were Hobbs to listen to the drumbeat. Can hear the other schools now: Fred Hill Jr, Mike Rice, Eddie Jordan and now Danny Hurley?? You never know when he's gonna lose it big time, and force RU to fire him. Come to (Seton Hall, Maryland, Michigan, etc) where you have a good, stable, winning environment with a respected coach.
TL

 

[AreYouNUTS]

AAU stuff is a den of snakes that puts kids noses out of joint and less willing to listen to their college coach--but that's the way of life these days. Still not getting the love for DH, who had a meltdown in undergrad days and may be way, way too emotionally fragile to coach in the Big 10. His choleric behavior and outbursts are a red flag some people are ignoring, perhaps at our peril, were Hobbs to listen to the drumbeat. Can hear the other schools now: Fred Hill Jr, Mike Rice, Eddie Jordan and now Danny Hurley?? You never know when he's gonna lose it big time, and force RU to fire him. Come to (Seton Hall, Maryland, Michigan, etc) where you have a good, stable, winning environment with a respected coach.
TL

Very well stated. Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[higgins3]

Honestly, I'm shocked that OntheBanks, Politi and Carino are pushing DH so hard.....the Md. Game incident is a red flag that would immediately be dredged up by RU haters and enemies within the moment he is hired. even if the guy is a winner, if he's that immature, it is not a good sign for the future.

I am surprised too