Projected line up for Missouri
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Pretty sure they can't make the lower weights till B12 (maybe Joe Iowa dual). If G is out for this one, then wrestlestat has it 19-16 Mizzo but they have Mizzo winning at 133 and 157. Problem is whether John is willing to throw Joe out there underweight (and then 165 for Iowa) and potentially take two losses at the end of the year. But if Joe does not go against Lewis then it probably the full 6 pt pin for them and might lose the dual meet. Bit of the same issue against Iowa.
I doubt John is worried about Joe taking losses. For one, he isn't that type of coach. For another, none of Joe's matches at 174 count towards a national seed at 165.
Joe making165 for the first time all year at Big 12 and then for 3 days at NCAA would concern me he hasn't weighed 165 in awhile.I would stick with Chandler at 165 if he's healthy
If they don't count matches at 174, then he goes into NCAA tournament with a few matches and unseeded?
If that's the case, then he won't be seeded, correct? And if true then will we have any seeded at 165, 174, 184, or 197?
You sure? Pretty certain only seeds thru 16 last year, has there been a change for 2019?
Having lower seeds can either really help or hurt us. If they don't include matches at other weights, I would guess we will be in the teens at 65, 74, and 84. Preston doesn't have many matches, so he will likely not be seeded lower as well. A 13 or 14 seed means 4 or 3 seed Thursday night, but a 15 or 16 seed means 2 or 1. Lose here and a long way back to 3rd, but win and it might open the path to the semi finals or finals.
Good info, hadn't heard or checked on this change. Now it makes more sense of how we can get away with moving guys down a weight class, even though might not have rpi at lower weight, there seeding committee can take into account rank, record etc at higher weight and no chance these guys will draw into a top 4 first round, like could happen in past years.
The seeding rubric is just a math problem and, other than the human element of the coaches ranking, does not take into account matches at other weights at all. If our guys moving weights get 8 matches at that weight by the end of the Big 12 tournament (Weigel is almost there already, Geer has 5 DI matches at 184 so he should make it, Jacobe has 8 already at 174, Joe has 0 at 165) they'll at least have a winning percentage. Winning the conference tournament becomes VERY important at that stage and where they get voted in the coaches ranking will be as well.
Remember the seeding process puts every qualifier in some order (I believe based on CR), then uses the rubric to compare them 2 wrestlers at a time to slide them around on the seed lines. Each comparison is 25% Head to head between the two wrestlers, 20% quality wins (a tiered point system, each unique win over another qualifier earns points, wins over better wrestlers earn more), 15% coaches rank, 10% conference tournament placement (champs get an edge over all others, then those who finished in the automatic spots, then everyone else), 10% results vs. common opponents, 10% win percentage, 10% RPI.