Problem I see is--

lzearing

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I feel Nebraska had its glory days when they got way ahead of the weight lifting curve. They could pump up big farm boys and be great. Now everyone has caught up and Nebraska's limiting geographical position does not offer a major advantage for recruiting, so it is much harder to dominate like they used to be. But the fan base still thinks they ought to be and have inflated expectations every year. Firing Solich with the seasons he had is an example of this. At my school 9-10 wins would be enough for a statue out front. You have a great stadium and great fans, just pulling back a little and being more realistic would help.
 

Ewooc

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You could be right, but once a program or a person achieves greatness it is tough to accept anything less. Getting the perfect coach is a huge piece in a team having success. Nebraska has not had that coach in a very long time. Most still believe Frost is the right coach. To reach that next level it requires getting the right players to fit what the coach wants to do schematically. Not just the right player physically, but mentally as well. We have seen college football make the best high school athletes look like nobodies. Teams like Wisc and Iowa have the right system and coaches in place. They lack the ability to get talent to take them to that next level. Nebraska is still able to pull in top 20-25 classes even as bad as we have been. I have little doubt if we can pull a few 8, 9, 10 win season together we can recruit with most in the country.
If you go back and look at all other blue blood program, all have went through periods similar to what Nebraska has had. Nebraska may never win another NC, but that isn't going to stop us from trying.
 

CatColumbia

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You could be right, but once a program or a person achieves greatness it is tough to accept anything less. Getting the perfect coach is a huge piece in a team having success. Nebraska has not had that coach in a very long time. Most still believe Frost is the right coach. To reach that next level it requires getting the right players to fit what the coach wants to do schematically. Not just the right player physically, but mentally as well. We have seen college football make the best high school athletes look like nobodies. Teams like Wisc and Iowa have the right system and coaches in place. They lack the ability to get talent to take them to that next level. Nebraska is still able to pull in top 20-25 classes even as bad as we have been. I have little doubt if we can pull a few 8, 9, 10 win season together we can recruit with most in the country.
If you go back and look at all other blue blood program, all have went through periods similar to what Nebraska has had. Nebraska may never win another NC, but that isn't going to stop us from trying.

Great take! I will add that a key for a head coach to be the "right coach" is to have a strong staff. Dabo Sweeny is the perfect example of this. I am very concerned that Frost's best buddy happens to be the defensive coordinator. Chins has not proved to be someone who I think will ever lead us to a conference championship in the B10. Schematically and adjustments just aren't there on that side of the ball and I don't ever see that changing. We'll have to give him his time but I don't think this will end well.
 

RedMyMind

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What kind of foods are served at the nutrition table?
Put them on a carnivorous diet to get an advantage
 

Vito Corleone

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I feel Nebraska had its glory days when they got way ahead of the weight lifting curve. They could pump up big farm boys and be great. Now everyone has caught up and Nebraska's limiting geographical position does not offer a major advantage for recruiting, so it is much harder to dominate like they used to be. But the fan base still thinks they ought to be and have inflated expectations every year. Firing Solich with the seasons he had is an example of this. At my school 9-10 wins would be enough for a statue out front. You have a great stadium and great fans, just pulling back a little and being more realistic would help.

15 years on here and THIS is your 4th post?Laughing We've known this for like 15 years dude :rolleyes:
 

Mr.Scary13

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BS....it comes down to the coaching period. Alabama, Florida St, Miami, USC, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, LSU, and Oklahoma all sucked when they had lower tier coaches. As soon as Nebraska figures this out and goes all out for a FULL legit staff they wont be back.
 

Hawk-A-Maniac

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I feel Nebraska had its glory days when they got way ahead of the weight lifting curve. They could pump up big farm boys and be great. Now everyone has caught up and Nebraska's limiting geographical position does not offer a major advantage for recruiting, so it is much harder to dominate like they used to be. But the fan base still thinks they ought to be and have inflated expectations every year. Firing Solich with the seasons he had is an example of this. At my school 9-10 wins would be enough for a statue out front. You have a great stadium and great fans, just pulling back a little and being more realistic would help.

The game has changed. Personally, I miss the old days when Nebraska had a potent ground game.

Nebraska is still able to get talent. Frost needs to focus on linemen and dominating in the trenches. His style does not fit the B1G Ten well.
 

Ewooc

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Great take! I will add that a key for a head coach to be the "right coach" is to have a strong staff. Dabo Sweeny is the perfect example of this. I am very concerned that Frost's best buddy happens to be the defensive coordinator. Chins has not proved to be someone who I think will ever lead us to a conference championship in the B10. Schematically and adjustments just aren't there on that side of the ball and I don't ever see that changing. We'll have to give him his time but I don't think this will end well.
Agree, chin is going to be a big piece to the puzzle succeeding or failing.
 

Cidsports

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Nebraska claims 46 conference championships and five national championships (1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, and 1997), and has won nine other national championships that the school does not claim.

NU's 1971 and 1995 title-winning teams are considered by many to be among the best in college football history.

From 1972 to 1993, those 22 seasons, no national titles.

Ohio State went longer, from 1969 to 2001. The Big Ten often beats up on one another, which is true for the Pac 12. Of course lately, the Pac 12 has been down.

Bottomline, unless you are Alabama or Clemson, multiple national titles don't come easy or lately.

The last Big Ten title was 2014. Ohio State hasn't been the same since. New coach Ryan Day has them on the attack though in 2019.

Michigan State is the only other Big Ten team to play in the CFP. Since playing Alabama in 2015 CFP, the Spartans haven't been the same.

Ohio State may get back to the CFP in 2019?

Of course, Penn State and Michigan still may have something to say about it. It isn't automatic process, so the focus has to be on what is controllable.

The last Big 12 title was 2005. Texas won.

Oklahoma has played in three College Football Playoffs, but their last national title was in 2001. Ironically, it was Year 2 for Bob Stoops.

Competing for a Big Ten title, Nebraska has never really been close, when they played in it.

More importantly, the Big Ten West division is what it is now, since 2014. This is what Nebraska needs to figure out.

Scott Frost will not get to Indianapolis in Year 2. Bo Pelini did get to Indianapolis once.
  • Wisconsin 70
  • Nebraska 31, in 2012
  • Year 2, the Huskers were in Big Ten
Nebraska really wasn't the same, after that 2012 loss to an 8-6 Wisconsin team.

Year 2s are often difficult for programs. Look at Tennessee, Florida State and UCLA right now?
Nebraska isn't alone. Purdue is struggling, as well. Their coach apologized to his quarterbacks, team ahead of the game with Nebraska.
Of course, Purdue has played in two straight bowl games, but that is highly doubtful in 2019?

There is plenty of piling on Nebraska right now. It is unfortunate at times. Of course, Scott Frost hasn't likely made the right choices this season?
 

saluno22

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Cool story. Also, Nebraska was 9-3 when Solich was fired. Pelini was interim coach for the bowl game.
 

Hawkofxmaspast

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BS....it comes down to the coaching period. Alabama, Florida St, Miami, USC, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, LSU, and Oklahoma all sucked when they had lower tier coaches. As soon as Nebraska figures this out and goes all out for a FULL legit staff they wont be back.
The last three coaches you’ve hired you’ve only got your first choice once that was frost. Coaches do not want to come somewhere when they do not have time and unrealistic fans pushing unrealistic expectations. You usually will end up with your third or fourth choice coach pick and get used to that no good Coach is going to come here and have to be looking over their shoulder and putting up with unrealistic fans. Sorry this is a truth that the Fanbase does not want to recognize.
 

Mr.Scary13

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The last three coaches you’ve hired you’ve only got your first choice once that was frost. Coaches do not want to come somewhere when they do not have time and unrealistic fans pushing unrealistic expectations. You usually will end up with your third or fourth choice coach pick and get used to that no good Coach is going to come here and have to be looking over their shoulder and putting up with unrealistic fans. Sorry this is a truth that the Fanbase does not want to recognize.

Great coaches love big time schools....run along fool.
 

BCSstone

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I feel Nebraska had its glory days when they got way ahead of the weight lifting curve. They could pump up big farm boys and be great. Now everyone has caught up and Nebraska's limiting geographical position does not offer a major advantage for recruiting, so it is much harder to dominate like they used to be. But the fan base still thinks they ought to be and have inflated expectations every year. Firing Solich with the seasons he had is an example of this. At my school 9-10 wins would be enough for a statue out front. You have a great stadium and great fans, just pulling back a little and being more realistic would help.
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No. NU played for the National Championship in 1965, 1970 and 1971. Weight program kicked in the mid-1970s or later. NU just had better coaches/players. Also, NU won rings with pro style offense in 1970-71, so didn't need "unique offense" either.
 
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Great take! I will add that a key for a head coach to be the "right coach" is to have a strong staff. Dabo Sweeny is the perfect example of this. I am very concerned that Frost's best buddy happens to be the defensive coordinator. Chins has not proved to be someone who I think will ever lead us to a conference championship in the B10. Schematically and adjustments just aren't there on that side of the ball and I don't ever see that changing. We'll have to give him his time but I don't think this will end well.

Frost will never win anything with the current staff, especially the defensive staff, Chins is the dumbest DC in all of power 5, probably in all of FBS.
 

Ewooc

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The last three coaches you’ve hired you’ve only got your first choice once that was frost. Coaches do not want to come somewhere when they do not have time and unrealistic fans pushing unrealistic expectations. You usually will end up with your third or fourth choice coach pick and get used to that no good Coach is going to come here and have to be looking over their shoulder and putting up with unrealistic fans. Sorry this is a truth that the Fanbase does not want to recognize.

It is how the game works in Blood Blue programs or really any program except Iowa. It shouldn't take 5 6 7 years to find success. If coaches don't have some level of success by year 3 the odds drop dramatically that they ever will. So after year 3 or 4 there is little evidence to suggest a coach will flip the switch and be a top tier coach. Yes it happens, but not very often. Great coaches usually can flip a program by year 3 or 4.