Point shaving scandal
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Well, we know Kennesaw didn’t shave any points against us last year.
The risk you take with legal sports betting. The lesser conference players aren't getting the big bucks and can be tempted by big offers.
Its worse,today with bets being allowed for events during the game that may not affect winning or losing
First pitch bets in baseball, eg, who wins the tip in bb
Maybe,there are these,bets within the game for college basketball
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There were point shaving scandals long before sports gambling was widely legalized. What made people think point shaving wasn't going to continue being a problem?
What you say is true ,but point shaving and betting scandals have happened before legalized gambling came along.
blast from the past:
>Eventually, District Attorney Frank Hogan arrested 32 players from seven colleges who fixed 86 games between 1947 and 1950.<
1951 scandals threaten college hoops
In 1950, CCNY accomplished one of the greatest feats in basketball history, winning the NIT and the NCAA tournaments--one year later there was devastation.
www.espn.com
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The unregulated movement of players and legalized betting are the worst two things to happen to college sports in forever.
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There was an HBO documentary about this a few years ago. I think it was called City Dump.
Kentucky's basketball program was shut down for point shaving in the '50s. There have been scandals in multiple decades since.
This is true, what I'm saying is, I'm assuming that revenue sharing and nil for players arriving around the same time as legal sports gambling is connected some how. Professional players make enough money that they can't be enticed to throw games. It would be hard to stop point shaving in college with legal sports betting lol so with rev share and nil big conferences should be safe but you never know ..
The Boston College point shaving scandal in 1978-1979 season.
Jim Sweeney from Trenton was involved, but years later the truth came out the mob threatened to kill friend (had a gambling problem) and him if Jim did not point shave. It cost him a pro career.
I played basketball against him in 8th grade at the Trenton CYO.
Read this book last year about the City College and other 1951 college basketball scandals. It was very good. City Game Book - Excellent Read
This is true but weren't they isolated to a single team not 30+ players across 18 teams?
A quick google search shows the CCNY point shaving was the first found out and then more programs were found to have shaved points all across the nation
>The CCNY point-shaving scandal of the early 1950s exploded nationally after its initial focus on New York City teams (CCNY, Manhattan, NYU, LIU) revealed widespread corruption involving gamblers and players from other major programs like Kentucky, Toledo, and Bradley, uncovering a massive, organized crime-linked conspiracy that implicated dozens of players and led to bans and significant shake-ups in college basketball.
How it Became National:
- Initial Discovery: The scandal began with CCNY's championship team but quickly expanded as investigations revealed similar schemes at other NYC-area schools.
- Spreading Investigations: As authorities delved deeper, they found gamblers had reached players across the country, linking to universities in California, Oregon, Colorado, and even the reigning NCAA champions, Kentucky.
- Organized Crime Involvement: Manhattan District Attorney Frank Hogan's investigation uncovered connections to organized crime, turning it from a few corrupt players into a major criminal enterprise.
- Widespread Player Involvement: Dozens of players, including some who played professionally, were implicated and faced charges, highlighting how pervasive the issue was.
- CCNY (City College of New York): The epicenter, leading to a ban from Madison Square Garden.
- Other NYC Teams: Manhattan College, NYU, Long Island University.
- National Spread: University of Kentucky (1951 NCAA champs), Toledo, Bradley, Georgetown.
- Consequences: Players were banned, gamblers prosecuted, and the NCAA tournament avoided Madison Square Garden for years, forever changing college basketball's image<
Thanks. Thats a good find and interesting fact. I guess some bad PR the NCAA hasn't highlighted too much. Then again when it comes to money..they tend to look the other way
Look the other way is right. Kentucky had it's MBB program shut down because some of their players were involved in point shaving ,
But the NCAA let it keep the 1950-51 season National Championship Trophy it won ,even though the 1950-51 team was part of the point shaving scandal that came out in 1951 and caused Kentucky to shut down their MBB program for the 1952-53 season.
googling found
>The 1951-52 Season: The team was allowed to play the 1951-52 season, winning the SEC regular season and tournament titles before losing in the NCAA East Regional Final to St. John's<
Of course there were. But these were situations where you had certain organizations coming to players. Players didn't have the ability back then to have a few buddies put legal $$$ on these stupid in game bets that happen. And in the old days- these other organizations that approached players, didn't have as wide of a reach as there is now (legally)
Sports betting- both professional and college, should never have been allowed on these online sites. And it is really pathetic that sports gambling and beer are the two biggest advertisers in sports.
I'm 100% with you on the betting. Not so much on the beer since you need to be 21 to purchase. And yes even though there are work arounds it isn't as easy as checking a box online or having someone else place a bet (or whatever the guard rails are there). I'm don't gamble so I don't really know.