Player evals from our team and coaching changes

dark_check

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The pod today made me think. They’re talking about Pike having to make coaching changes and he might bring in an offensive coordinator type of assistant. That’s great, but we’re evaluating our talent and their value on what they did last year. In an iso system. Tough job. Thoughts.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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They have said that for 3 to 4 years running, I guess if you keep repeating the same thing, eventually you would be right as a podcast person.
 
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dark_check

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They have said that for 3 to 4 years running, I guess if you keep repeating the same thing, eventually you would be right as a podcast person.
True lol, I just wanted to get a discussion going were it to be true. To me the scheme you run goes a long way to say if specific players are worth paying
 

PSAL_Hoops

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And how did that work out for Pike the last 3 to 4 years of not changing the offensive coaching?
Well I’d argue that it was his D not his O that killed us the past 2 years. As for 2023-24 that offense was historically bad. I’m not sure there was a scheme that could’ve made it better - nobody could make open lay ups on that team.

Having no offensive players and a D that fell off the cliff is Pike’s fault. I’m not making excuses for him at all. I just think blaming it on his offensive schemes is being blown out of preportion. The latest pod did it again - but no matter how many times they say it, the shot chart was appropriate for the personnel we had this year.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Maybe the podcast is correct and the coach is wrong

If we aimed for a pretty looking shot selection chart this season we wouldn’t have won 10 games. I’m not saying we shouldn’t change things in the future only that the offense we ran this year was appropriate as it gave us the best chance to win.
 

NickRU714

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If we aimed for a pretty looking shot selection chart this season we wouldn’t have won 10 games. I’m not saying we shouldn’t change things in the future only that the offense we ran this year was appropriate as it gave us the best chance to win.

Again, you're missing the forest for the trees.

The shot chart wasn't optimized for this set of players.
This set of players was optimized for the shot chart Pike/Knight seemingly want every year.
It's not a coincidence that every year the shot chart looks the same.

Pike and Knight just have the worst luck ever. They end up with a team of players who cant shot 3s or finish at the rim and end up needing to settle for mid range. A crazy string of bad luck every year for almost a decade.

You're point would make sense if it was a 1 year aberration.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Again, you're missing the forest for the trees.

The shot chart wasn't optimized for this set of players.
This set of players was optimized for the shot chart Pike/Knight seemingly want every year.
It's not a coincidence that every year the shot chart looks the same.

Pike and Knight just have the worst luck ever. They end up with a team of players who cant shot 3s or finish at the rim and end up needing to settle for mid range. A crazy string of bad luck every year for almost a decade.

You're point would make sense if it was a 1 year aberration.

Huh - no. Nobody took contested 3s. Thats not the reason we went only 32% from 3 (which was actually one of our better rates).

We had no post player to take shots at the rim - you can’t resolve that we the personnel we had. Tariq got shots at the rim by forcing defenses to respect his midrange and mixing things up. And he drew lots of fouls doing this. Those attempts gave us the best chance to win. Without them, we lose more often this season.
 
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