Owen Hull Quote

Heelium1

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I mean, every hitter in the world wishes they could have that approach but most guys just aren’t wired that way. I love the way Owen plays the game, nothing is robotic, drives the ball to all fields. Just a joy to watch play.
Most guys "just aren't wired" to hit the pitch where it's thrown? I beg to differ. Most young players are taught to do exactly that.

In fact, a good to great age group hitter--especially--can really thump on the outside half because, from the time his opposing pitchers gain any semblance of control, those are the only pitches he is likely to see.

Later, however, the "Moneyball Swing" gets drilled into the same players by folks who, IMO, are well intentioned but misguided.

The best hitters can hit all the way across the plate. Some are better high in the zone, and some are better low (most lefties). A great hitter makes his swing even more direct and compact in the clutch.

Owen Hull has all of the earmarks of a great hitter, and he now has some stats to prove it.
 
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TarHeelColby10

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Most guys "just aren't wired" to hit the pitch where it's thrown? I beg to differ. Most young players are taught to do exactly that.

In fact, a good to great age group hitter--especially--can really thump on the outside half because, from the time his opposing pitchers gain any semblance of control, those are the only pitches he is likely to see.

Later, however, the "Moneyball Swing" gets drilled into the same players by folks who, IMO, are well intentioned but misguided.

The best hitters can hit all the way across the plate. Some are better high in the zone, and some are better low (most lefties). A great hitter makes his swing even more direct and compact in the clutch.

Owen Hull has all of the earmarks of a great hitter, and he now has some stats to prove it.
Just because you can make a long a message board post about it, doesn’t make that approach normal. When guys are getting 93-100 mph fastballs with 20 inches of horizontal run, and then also knowing that the guy on the mound has a slider or curveball and then a changeup off of that.. again, 95% has to go to the plate with A plan that isn’t just “hit it where it’s pitched”. It’s not JV baseball. What you’re trying to say isn’t as easy as you mansplained it. But, whatever.. I’m sure you’re actually right.
 

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Just because you can make a long a message board post about it, doesn’t make that approach normal. When guys are getting 93-100 mph fastballs with 20 inches of horizontal run, and then also knowing that the guy on the mound has a slider or curveball and then a changeup off of that.. again, 95% has to go to the plate with A plan that isn’t just “hit it where it’s pitched”. It’s not JV baseball. What you’re trying to say isn’t as easy as you mansplained it. But, whatever.. I’m sure you’re actually right.
A long post that you never bothered to address. You just told me many of the things that you know about current, high major baseball--all of which, at some level, are the rationale for the "Moneyball Swing."

If I said something wrong, why not just point it out?

Hitters have to be drilled to have blind spots across the plate in college, waiting for wheelhouse pitches. That is the same "new wave mentality" that routinely produces prospective MLB players that cannot hit behind a runner or get a bunt down.
 

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A long post that you never bothered to address. You just told me many of the things that you know about current, high major baseball--all of which, at some level, are the rationale for the "Moneyball Swing."

If I said something wrong, why not just point it out?

Hitters have to be drilled to have blind spots across the plate in college, waiting for wheelhouse pitches. That is the same "new wave mentality" that routinely produces prospective MLB players that cannot hit behind a runner or get a bunt down.
It’s not that what you are saying is wrong, 10-15 years ago you’re exactly right. But the game has changed so much, especially on the mound. The average fastball isn’t 90-93 anymore. Most guys have to go to the plate a plan to attack a certain pitch, or quadrant of the plate. The pitching has gotten so much better, the hitters have had no choice but to change the way they attack pitches and ABs. If you are blessed enough with hands that you can go to the plate and just “hit it where it’s pitched” no matter the count or the pitcher, that’s not normal and even if you can do it at this level, it’s going to change at the next level. The pitching is just so so so good right now.
 

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Anybody have the video of Owen’s quote at the end of the post-game?

Was such a sick statement.

Something like “If you believe something will happen, and do everything you can to make it happen, then it will happen” (said much better ofc).

Dog mentality.

Go Heels
What's "sick" about it?
 

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Just because you can make a long a message board post about it, doesn’t make that approach normal. When guys are getting 93-100 mph fastballs with 20 inches of horizontal run, and then also knowing that the guy on the mound has a slider or curveball and then a changeup off of that.. again, 95% has to go to the plate with A plan that isn’t just “hit it where it’s pitched”. It’s not JV baseball. What you’re trying to say isn’t as easy as you mansplained it. But, whatever.. I’m sure you’re actually right.
preach it bruh😎

100%

GO HEELS
 

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Hull is such a smart hitter. He anticipates the pitch as well as anybody, and seems to know what he's going to do before he swings. But he's a mauler brawler and I'd go into any fight with that guy. Especially knowing he has a black belt. He'd knock everybody out before I got to throw a punch.
 

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It’s going to be interesting to see how Hull develops as a pro. His hands are both quick and strong. Makes me think of Ichiro. I don’t know if it comes from his martial arts training or if its just natural, but if he develops his ability to transfer power from his lower half into his swing to go with those hands, he could have a nice career. He’ll do well to stick with martial arts because transferring power through the body is a fundamental principle of most styles.
 
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It’s going to be interesting to see how Hull develops as a pro. His hands are both quick and strong. Makes me think of Ichiro. I don’t know if it comes from his martial arts training or if its just natural, but if he develops his ability to transfer power from his lower half into his swing to go with those hands, he could have a nice career. He’ll do well to stick with martial arts because transferring power through the body is a fundamental principle of most styles.
Once he figures out his lower half, there’s a chance Owen plays baseball for a living for a long, long time. For as good as our last 2 center fielders were he’s had the best season of either of them. Vance’s obviously more flashy with the power, but Owen has been just a constant all year. He’s only the THIRD player EVER to have 4 doubles in a NCAA tournament game.
 

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Once he figures out his lower half, there’s a chance Owen plays baseball for a living for a long, long time. For as good as our last 2 center fielders were he’s had the best season of either of them. Vance’s obviously more flashy with the power, but Owen has been just a constant all year. He’s only the THIRD player EVER to have 4 doubles in a NCAA tournament game.
Love Owen but I'm taking Vance. What a luxury that it's even a debate though
 

Heelium1

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Hull. The guy that started the season 2-22 and some hear had him pegged to take his talents back to George Mason.

Baseball is hard. What he’s done at Carolina is beyond hard. It’s funny to see folks talk as if it’s easy to do.
That is not what I said, and you know it.

From my first post on this subject: "Owen Hull has all of the earmarks of a great hitter, and he now has some stats to prove it."
 
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It’s going to be interesting to see how Hull develops as a pro. His hands are both quick and strong. Makes me think of Ichiro. I don’t know if it comes from his martial arts training or if its just natural, but if he develops his ability to transfer power from his lower half into his swing to go with those hands, he could have a nice career. He’ll do well to stick with martial arts because transferring power through the body is a fundamental principle of most styles.
Is his relative lack of incorporating his lower half what sometimes to me, looks like an awkward swing?
 

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Is his relative lack of incorporating his lower half what sometimes to me, looks like an awkward swing?
Hull's hands are really fast, and, if that is the result of "martial arts training"--a fact that I didn't realize until later in this thread--that could explain why his hands and arms often seem to be a tick ahead of the weight shift in his platform.

And that is why his swing looks awkward to you--especially on pitches to the outside half (where, I believe, he prefers to hit). On inside half pitches, Owen seems to pivot and transfer his weight in a way that would gratify Moneyball coaches.

That ability (again, IMO) is a function of eyesight. Owen can read in or out early. And, if the pitch is ambiguous, he has the confidence to wait because of his exceptionally fast hands.

If those are the traits that TH Colby described as "instinctive," I can understand why he reached that conclusion.
 

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That is not what I said, and you know it.

From my first post on this subject: "Owen Hull has all of the earmarks of a great hitter, and he now has some stats to prove it."
I’m talking about board posts months ago when the season started, not in late April, May and June when some folks decided to start paying attention.

And I didn’t quote your post so not sure why you thought it was directed at you.
 

Heelium1

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I’m talking about board posts months ago when the season started, not in late April, May and June when some folks decided to start paying attention.

And I didn’t quote your post so not sure why you thought it was directed at you.
Not offense taken. I was the only contrarian, which is why I reacted.

And you got to quote Tom Hanks in "A League of Their Own."

"Baseball is hard." That statement either preceded or followed, "There is no crying in baseball." If and when you trot out the latter expression, I will be concerned.

And my posts were not about why Hull is not exceptional. They were more about why incessant coaching to upper-cut and snap pull everything you can reach was counter intuitive, as Owen Hull's hitting so clearly proves. That is what provoked TH Colby to react. He evidently enjoys watching countless weak nubbers and fly balls to the opposite field. [Just kidding.]

Have a good night.