OT: Thibs fired!
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Then Knicks hire Dan Hurley.
Then UConn hires pikes
Then rutty is free
Then UConn hires pikes
Then rutty is free
He is the scape goat for the embarrassing first game loss to Indiana that decided the playoff matchup.The Knicks won 51 games and defeated Detroit and the Boston Celtics. in play off matchups.The roster lacked players that could defend and make 3 pointers which is a general manager responsibility.
Not a huge Thibs fan but don’t think he deserved this.
Thibs not using the bench and Mitchell Robinson until it was way too late, cemented this firing. It's 2025 and playing 7 players is not a path to play close to 100 games and be successful enough to win through May and into June.
Thibs was the opposite of Pike whose problem was not being able to settle on a rotation playing 11 deep into the season.
People are thinking Hurley but I’m thinking they have an agreement with Malone in place. I can’t see them firing Thibbs without an almost fool-proof replacement plan in the works. Thibbs had his faults, but he certainly was successful in NY.
I agree with you, but they said on the radio this morning that Malone was not happening. If they are going to go this route, they better have a good guy lined up. While Thibs definitely has his flaws he's damn good. I had hope maybe this last series cemented to him that he needs to use whatever bench he has better.
That's a gutsy move to get rid of a good, established coach of a winning team for. I get lot's of people seem to think he'll be good.
Just 18 months ago it was "we're not taking shortcuts and we're building the Young Knicks" with RJ Barret, Quickley and Grimes.
Going to get Zion to reunite the Duke 3 (with Cam Reddish).
Then traded them all away (along with nearly all their draft picks) for KAT, OG and Bridges.
Now they are firing their HC and maybe trying to trade for Durant or Giannis (chasing star players from other teams).
So much for the Knicks being "different".
Going to get Zion to reunite the Duke 3 (with Cam Reddish).
Then traded them all away (along with nearly all their draft picks) for KAT, OG and Bridges.
Now they are firing their HC and maybe trying to trade for Durant or Giannis (chasing star players from other teams).
So much for the Knicks being "different".
Sounds very reasonable deal with Malone was there , making Thibbs expendable and any search to replace him just for show
Malone and Thibs are very similar coaches, it would be weird to fire him and replace him with an almost identical coach who was just fired for many of the same reasons.
Counter point:
RJ Barrett sucks. IQ was a solid player but he wasn’t going to be satisfied with a bench role much longer and became expendable with the emergence of McBride.
None of their young guys were traded for KAT. That trade was Randle and Donte. While I think Hartenstein leaving for OKC kind of forced their hand here, Randle was going to want more than the Knicks were willing to give him after this season, so they moved him instead of letting him walk for nothing. Based on Donte’s performance this past season, I think the Knicks sold high on him.
As for the Durant/Giannis bit, none of that is real, it’s just twitter garbage.
Agree with you, although I’m not the biggest KAT fan. His defense might even be worse than advertised, but can put up huge numbers. No problem with this trade to and I’d pull the trigger again.
The monumental mistake was 5 first round picks for Bridges. One of the worst trades they’ve ever made.
The organization is now crippled with an aging team that’s not quite good enough and almost no tradeable assets without drastically changing the team
Don't mind him. He's just a Nets fan who's tossing insults at Knicks fans because he's likely bitter that they failed in the tank job this season by only ending up with Pick #8.
I’m less worried about age. The oldest of the bunch is Hart who is 30. KAT is 29, Brunson and Bridges are 28, OG is 27.
I’m still undecided on the Bridges trade. It was for sure a ton to give up, but I still don’t believe late first round picks are all that valuable, and I don’t know who else they could’ve gotten whose contract they could’ve taken on without also throwing in players. Idk if it was the best they could’ve done with those picks but Mikal at least allowed them to bring in a legit starter on a decent contract without further gutting their depth.
You’re absolutely correct that they are limited in terms of moves they can make. I think this core is the team they are going all in with. As long as they extend Bridges then everyone is locked up long enough to give them a decent window to win. Which is also why I think they weren’t willing to wait and see what Thibs would do with another year.
Define "Aging" ....... Knick entire starting lineup from this season is under 30 (with the exception of Hart - who is 30). Their first 2 off the bench are Deuce (24) and Robinson (27).
Regarding the Draft picks for Bridges - the Nets will get first rounders in:
2025 - #26
2027 - likely late in the first round
2028 - Swap
2029
2031
While any team can find draft nuggets late in the first round, it may very well be that the value of that trade might not hit until the 2029 and 2031 drafts.
Agree. Kept hearing all postseason and down the stretch of the regular season that needed to use the bench more. Knicks allocated the majority of their money to the starting line-up and the bench was thin as a result.
Not bitter at all.
Where was the insult?
Saying the Knicks built their team like every other team is an insult? Interesting.
Is it not true that Knicks fans mocked the way the Nets built their team of Durant, Harden and Kyrie?
FA signings and trades.
Giving away draft picks and young players.
“Star chasing”.
Firing HCs.
Instead of building with homegrown talent - like the “Young Knicks”.
Slow and steady.
I’m not saying the Knicks were wrong to trade the “Young Knicks” away and chase OG and KAT.
They made the ECF. So it worked.
Just amused how quickly fan mentality changes.
Red Sox fans mocked the Yankees payroll.
Until they won with a similar payroll.
I’m a Mets fan who never mocked the Yankees for “buying” championships.
Just win.
It's the NBA, these guys can play, if you give them time during the season and develop their roles. Wright looked good when he was in, shamet has been a solid player for years, they were playing cam Payne before those guys. Every time cam Payne shoots I wonder how hes still in the league. You have to develop the bench throughout the season. Pacers' Thomas Bryant and Sheppard etc aren't that good but they know their role and go out there and execute what they're expected to execute.. they all have roles, same with the Thunder, next year we will see more teams develop strategies to utilize their entire roster.
Payne was hilarious
If there was a stat for minutes played vs touches vs shot attempts his ratio would lead league
If there was a stat for minutes played vs touches vs shot attempts his ratio would lead league
Listen it's a players' league and after 5 yrs Thibs got pushed out ( very few coaches last 5 yrs these days). I'm pretty sure Bridges had a lot to do with this because he wasn't getting much run in the Indiana series. So if the player you give up 5 first round picks for isn't happy, then the coach is in trouble.
If I had one criticism of Thibs it is this: after 85-90 games, how do you change your rotation drastically? Don't you know your team by mid April???
Both coaches failed in running a half court offense with player and ball movement.They ran iso basketball with Brunson and Harper and lacked 3 point scoring from the corners.