OT: Southern Statues

phoenixeer

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When I was in school history was taught about the ciil war. Now we teach black heritage classes, OK. But now we have riots to remove Southern statues for southern soldiers from the civil war. Why do we have to choose both are our history.
 

bleedbluegold3

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op2

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When I was in school history was taught about the ciil war. Now we teach black heritage classes, OK. But now we have riots to remove Southern statues for southern soldiers from the civil war. Why do we have to choose both are our history.

You don't have to remove the statues period but rather from places of honor. Soldiers from southern states were traitors to the US so they don't deserve to be honored. But OTOH all history should be remembered.
 

MountaineerWV

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When I was in school history was taught about the ciil war. Now we teach black heritage classes, OK. But now we have riots to remove Southern statues for southern soldiers from the civil war. Why do we have to choose both are our history.

Statues of TRAITORS should be removed. I'm sure Britain would love to have a statue of George Washington......[winking]
 

phoenixeer

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You don't have to remove the statues period but rather from places of honor. Soldiers from southern states were traitors to the US so they don't deserve to be honored. But OTOH all history should be remembered.
Not traitors but a part of history.
 

op2

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Not traitors but a part of history.

If they're not traitors then who is? If trying to create another country within the country you're already in doesn't qualify as traitorous to the country you're already in then nothing does.
 

Brushy Bill

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Don't worry, the "traitor" dumbasses forget that the US started as a VOLUNTARY association of separate States.
 

op2

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Don't worry, the "traitor" dumbasses forget that the US started as a VOLUNTARY association of separate States.

But it was no longer voluntary in 1861, although even if it was that would still make the southern states traitors.
 

PriddyBoy

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You don't have to remove the statues period but rather from places of honor. Soldiers from southern states were traitors to the US so they don't deserve to be honored. But OTOH all history should be remembered.
I don't think soldiers from southern states meet the definition of traitors unless they defected after secession. I understand your sentiment and am more than willing to be corrected. If they are traitors, can we remove all Democrats? tic
 

op2

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Honestly, why do people argue this? The freaking south SECEDED FROM THE COUNTRY!!! So we're going to try to split hairs and say that the soldiers fighting for the south weren't traitors because by the time they started fighting they were no longer in the US because the CSA was its own country by then? Really? Apparently you'll go to literally any lengths to justify not calling someone a traitor.

Anybody that was an American before the Civil War and then defended and/or supported the CSA during the Civil War is a traitor to the USA. Period. This is so obvious that I can't believe people actually argue against it.
 

Brushy Bill

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Op2 is from the "might makes right" school. He's not going to like it if him and his Antifa brethren keep up their assault on peaceful protesters .
 

PriddyBoy

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Honestly, why do people argue this? The freaking south SECEDED FROM THE COUNTRY!!! So we're going to try to split hairs and say that the soldiers fighting for the south weren't traitors because by the time they started fighting they were no longer in the US because the CSA was its own country by then? Really? Apparently you'll go to literally any lengths to justify not calling someone a traitor.

Anybody that was an American before the Civil War and then defended and/or supported the CSA during the Civil War is a traitor to the USA. Period. This is so obvious that I can't believe people actually argue against it.
 

MountaineerWV

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Op2 is from the "might makes right" school. He's not going to like it if him and his Antifa brethren keep up their assault on peaceful protesters .

Brushy supports white supremacist "peaceful" marches......blames cops and anti-white supremacists for violence outbreak.......

Brushy condemn BLM protests........support cops and whites in putting down protests.....
 

Brushy Bill

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Someone tell that fool that the rightful protesters were not white "supremacists".
 

PriddyBoy

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Are you pointing to their secession from Mexico or their inclusion in secession of southern state from the Union. Perhaps you're referring to their modern weak *** efforts to secede which have been easily voted down by Republicans.
Southern Secession: