OT: New housing concept for MSU
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is this the project that the land was purchased off of university to include the old service station across from bulldog burger?
If so, this could be huge for the cotton district.
This project is on the old Aiken Village site. The project on University is called the Vista. Combined both projects add about 1300 bedrooms to the area.
Both of these projects will connect once it’s all done. That whole area is about to explode especially if you add in the new places next to City Bagel
Huh?
This is going to be fantastic for Mississippi State. I wish we had this kind of stuff when I was in college. All we had was Chadwick and Arbor Acres.
It would be fantastic for MSU if it was done well. The concepts shown in this article are absolute garbage. And will kill the street life on Collegeview, which is poised to be a HUGE corridor connecting University, the Cotton District and the athletic district. I know people are excited about the potential for this development, and they should be. Unfortunately, the kinetic is ultimately the most important. And the kinetic here, based on admittedly early concepts, looks REALLY bad.
If you like what was done on Russell Street, then you will love this.
No doubt. They're definitely going to ruin the College View kinetic! What could those maroons be thinking??!!!!
I have no idea what "kinetic" means in this context but there was one thing that makes me at least pause. In the article Keenum says "The University of Kentucky, Keenum said, was also running into problems with being able to issue bonds to build new residences." referencing why this is why it has taken shape like this. My worry is why we are borrowing money to build things when those who lend the money don't think we are a good bet to issue bonds to. We have come a long way using what I'll call the Templeton method of slow and steady building that keeps us in the black.
Kinetic energy is the opposite of potential energy. Meaning potential is what could be possible. Kinetic is what actually happens.
Your image portrays what exists now. We are talking about what could and/or will be. IE: future, which denotes planning or urban design. What is currently shown fails the basic tenets of good urban planning or design.
When you hear the term "mixed use" get knocked around, it connotes a set of rules or standards that help create a 24/7 street life based upon the mix of uses offsetting one another and keeping a certain area active with pedestrians as much and as often as possible over the course of a given day. When you build a development that has a single use over a certain expanse of street frontage, you effectively limit that area to its common use times depending on which use that is.
Basically, when they made a completely residential frontage on the recent development on Russell, the guaranteed that one or two blocks of Russell will be a no-man's land except and only except for when people come and go from their places of residence. This development appears to have the same characteristics. One or two blocks of single use may not seem like much, but when you are trying to build a consistent and continually active area, you can effectively kill the level of activity of a place with one single block.
Basically, when they made a completely residential frontage on the recent development on Russell, the guaranteed that one or two blocks of Russell will be a no-man's land except and only except for when people come and go from their places of residence. This development appears to have the same characteristics. One or two blocks of single use may not seem like much, but when you are trying to build a consistent and continually active area, you can effectively kill the level of activity of a place with one single block.
Maybe it's just me but this sounds like mixed use: "[FONT="]It will include 656 residential beds (each coming with its own room and bathroom), 46,000 square feet of retail, restaurants, an outdoor entertainment zone, a daycare center and recreational amenities."
Unless I don't understand the meaning of mixed use.[/FONT]
Currently, there is none. What is being done should be an attempt to create it. Especially when a road gets extend from Rue de Fromage down to Collegeview. As it shows now, that road will be greeted with some bland architecture and piss-poor urban design.
It does sound like it for sure. But how you distribute those uses, and where you place them matter.
It was my understanding from another article that I read that the first floors of each of the residential buildings would be the commercial space. At least that is what I am getting from the renderings. Looks like shopping, restaurants on the street with residence up above. The daycare is a separate building.
https://www.msstate.edu/newsroom/article/2018/02/groundbreaking-horizon-college-view-project-msu/
You can see the storefronts with awnings on the street.
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I helped me get a diploma. I'd say I owe him, in part, for changing my perspective. And that change in perspective has been invaluable to me.
You may very well be correct. In which case I will take most of what I have said back. Except for the part where I say the architecture is, well barely below average. But having the commercial on the street is important. So if that is the case, then excellent. I was looking at the dull pill-shaped central park set back from the street and assuming the were clustering the commercial and retail around that. I hope I am wrong.
I understand that the architecture is not as interesting as the Cotton District and other new construction in that area but if you consider that it is basically on campus and will serve as a residential dormitory and that it is a lease that will return to the University then I believe the design makes sense in that it is similar to the other new dorms on campus and will not stray too far from that architecture and building materials (mainly the same brick structures).
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