The fear and control is crazy.
https://yallpolitics.com/2021/07/16/msdh-releases-k-12-covid-guidance-for-2021-2022-school-year/
https://yallpolitics.com/2021/07/16/msdh-releases-k-12-covid-guidance-for-2021-2022-school-year/
OT: MSDH k-12 recommendation
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Tator Tot has already said it here will be no masks. There's a difference in a recommended protocol and the actual action taken. I wouldn't worry about it.
I am curious how many school age students have actually been vaccinated. I would imagine not many, especially since you have to be 12 or older.
Certainly a bunch of teachers have gotten both shots, so you may have an odd dynamic of classrooms full of masked students but teachers who (justifiably) don’t have to wear a mask.
Certainly a bunch of teachers have gotten both shots, so you may have an odd dynamic of classrooms full of masked students but teachers who (justifiably) don’t have to wear a mask.
Two of my coworkers (both of whom are vaccinated— everyone in my office is all vaccinated) who have children aged 12 and older are getting them vaccinated later this week.
Folks are concerned.
Folks are concerned.
For what it worth, the guy that tweeted it said 12, then corrected to 7 and I as I understand it was actually 5. Not saying that any is “good.”
It could get interesting fast. Israel stated yesterday vax is not near as effective as they thought. A couple of other highly vaxed countries like the UAE are not seeing sustained declines as expected.
Yeah. I know the numbers were originally higher and I cited the NY Post because it’s at least a source that would question them.
I irritate a lot of my friends on both the left and right— I question everything and especially when it comes to numbers.
I irritate a lot of my friends on both the left and right— I question everything and especially when it comes to numbers.
I have a close family member who is vaxxed. COVID hit his office in the last 3 weeks. 100% of unvaccinated got sick; 100% of vaccinated did NOT get sick.
Actually what Israel said was yes the the vaccinated people still got it but had a lesser case of it. So it’s still effective.
The WHO showed last year that they are nothing more than a political organization controlled by China. Ignore them 100%
I’m not trying to start a vaccine debate. But you wouldn’t vaccinate an unhealthy 12 year old? Isn’t that the way vaccines work, the healthy people get them to help control a disease because unhealthy people (kids with cancer) can’t get them?
You wouldn't vaccinate a healthy 12yo? Why not? Statistically, there is no downside. And instead, there is a ton of upside for the community that the 12yo lives in.
Our 14yo was vaccinated right when she was allowed. She wanted to be. It's been shown to be safe.
And this fall when it's approved for infants thru 11(or whatever are range), our 10yo will get the shots since she is wanting to as well and again, there is no statistical downside.
More people vaccinated = fewer people passing it around to the crazies and few who can't be vaccinated.
It’s a new vaccine. It’s very likely going to be proven safe, but I can understand hesitating to vaccinate people who as of now are at very low risk. Glad I am not having to make that decision for a teenager.
You technically can, but you're a whole lot less likely to do so. Kinda like wearing a condom doesn't bring the STD transmission rate down to 0 even though it lowers it a lot.
My 19 year old son and 23 year old daughter haven’t taken the Vaccine yet…. Both me and my wife have had the Vaccine.
I think every adult should get vaccinated (unless obviously for medical reasons) and I would say anyone ~15 years old should seriously consider it but under that I think it’s not as necessary and just for the fact that kids under 15 don’t have serious infection and don’t spread like teens and adults do. If teachers and other school staff are concerned about getting sick from kids….get the vaccine.
But it’s still a vaccine. It’s not like this is a new concept. Over 1 billion doses have been given with a very small amount of complications. Clearly, more people have been harmed by covid than by the vaccine. I guess I wonder how many doses have to be given before we stop the “vaccine is not safe” talk.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-cdc-owes-parents-better-messaging-on-the-vaccine-for-kids/
"Walensky cited a string of statistics that showed “the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any harm.” But some epidemiologists, public health experts, pediatricians, cardiologists, and other scientists dispute the CDC’s numbers, characterizations, and conclusion. The agency, they variously contend, is both exaggerating the risks of Covid-19 to young people and underplaying the potential risks of the vaccine to them."
"Walensky cited a string of statistics that showed “the benefits of vaccination far outweigh any harm.” But some epidemiologists, public health experts, pediatricians, cardiologists, and other scientists dispute the CDC’s numbers, characterizations, and conclusion. The agency, they variously contend, is both exaggerating the risks of Covid-19 to young people and underplaying the potential risks of the vaccine to them."
There will never be enough for some people. I know a lot of people that say they won’t get it because it’s not fully approved but I guarantee you when it gets full approval they still won’t get it
The same people who spent a year saying "you can't live in fear" from COVID are now too afraid to get the vaccine, even as billions of people have done it and moved on with their lives.
Yes, vaccines arent anything new but MRNA vaccines are a fairly new concept. And yes, there currently are no symptoms but what about long term effects of the vaccine? Especially in young people? We are talking about a modification to your cells that's going to be an annual shot. It's crazy to me that it's acceptable to skip the flu vaccine but it's like you're a leper if you don't get the Covid one. Hell if it was grown in a lab, I guess we should have the blueprint to kill it.
The data from the vaccines in the real world are right in line with what was first expected. You have been wrong at ever turn here, remember Sweden? Get your shots.
MRNA does NOT modify your cells. It also is consumed d when it does its job. Jeez.
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Denial is saying we should all stay home while you go to high school football games.
Seriously? What specifically did I say to trigger that? Oh, and by the way, I am fully vaxed. It just appears that it the 90% number is nowhere close to correct and it appears it is closer to 60% (their number.)
I will take Sweden’s approach any day of the week. They are averaging zero deaths per day now. That is with no mask mandates etc.
My point in all of this is what is the end game and for how long? Could we “lockdown and mask it away?” It appears the answer was “no” expect for maybe New Zealand with water for borders... and they are now having other medical issues as I type.
You haven’t seen one post from me saying someone should not get a vax that desires it and that seems to be the implication.
Glad to know the original L4 is still here.
I’m not going to act like I have any clue how the vaccine works, cause I don’t. But the fact is you or no one else knows if there is long term impacts of having covid. Another fact is way more people have died from covid than have died from the vaccine. Statistically speaking, getting covid unvaccinated is way more of a risk than just getting the vaccine. Long term impacts are unknown in both cases.
That's an odd question to respond with, but I'll answer since I'm such a great guy..
Based on what I have read,, a vaccinated person can transmit the virus.
Now thst I took the time to answer your question, please answer mine.
- why did you respond to my initial post with that question? It seems you didn't interpret something correctly.
I don’t often agree with your posts, but this one is 100% spot on. I respect a persons right to say no to the vaccine. But if you are going to say no, at least know what the hell you are talking about. Most people that are refusing to get it are using false information as a reason. Facebook and Tik-Tok are not good sources BTW.
FYI - every health care provider I know has had the vaccine. And COVID too. Does that tell any of you anti-vaxxers anything at all?
Couldn’t have said it better myself. 100% agree with this. I agree people should be able to make decision about the vaccine for themselves but damn at least make it based on informed decisions and not Uncle Fred’s Facebook post
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