OT: JFK

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Cruel Halo

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I've only skimmed 20 pages or so. Anyone else take a peek at the documents? I know 80,000 pages is a lot of info to digest.

Any early thoughts?
 

V-Doub

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Unfortunately I’ve heard comments from several DOJ (current and former) officials who’ve seen the unredacted documents and say there’s nothing there of substance. No smoking gun or piece of key evidence. Names and sources that were previously redacted or edited will become available, but it won’t tell us much more than we already know. 🤷‍♂️
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Unfortunately I’ve heard comments from several DOJ (current and former) officials who’ve seen the unredacted documents and say there’s nothing there of substance. No smoking gun or piece of key evidence. Names and sources that were previously redacted or edited will become available, but it won’t tell us much more than we already know. 🤷‍♂️
If there's nothing there there, why not fully unredact it.
 

dinglefritz

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Unfortunately I’ve heard comments from several DOJ (current and former) officials who’ve seen the unredacted documents and say there’s nothing there of substance. No smoking gun or piece of key evidence. Names and sources that were previously redacted or edited will become available, but it won’t tell us much more than we already know. 🤷‍♂️
The best comment I’ve heard was that anybody powerful enough to organize the killing of a President was powerful enough to cover up any trace of involvement. My money was and is on the Soviets.
 

konaki

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To me it was always a case of strange bedfellows, CIA and the MOB. Our government was never going to come out with the truth, it would have led to a revolution or national riots. Oswald was the patsy.
 

V-Doub

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The best comment I’ve heard was that anybody powerful enough to organize the killing of a President was powerful enough to cover up any trace of involvement. My money was and is on the Soviets.

I tend to believe it was the soviets with aid and assistance from Cuba. They have the motive, they had the capability and there’s tons of circumstantial evidence. Just no hard evidence or smoking gun.
 

konaki

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I respect all guesses and that what we're all doing just guessing. I don't think Castro and the Soviet Union would have been behind the assassination of JFK because they would have too much to lose if found out. If Castro and the Soviets were behind the assassination and were found out it would have led to an American invasion of Cuba and Castro would have been overthrown and the Soviets would have lost their strategic foothold in the Western Hemisphere. I'm not saying there is no way the Cubans and Soviets were behind the assassination I just view it as unlikely. I'm guessing this was an inside job for political reasons, sounds eerily familiar to a certain extent to me and that's the scary thing. jmo
 
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..i only know what i've seen on TV, much like many of you, but I saw too much of how the mob helped get him elected then he turned on the mob with appointing his bro to go after the very people who helped get him in office...which is why i always thought it was the mob
 

konaki

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I think too many Americans believe our own government would never go as far as murdering its own citizens or using them for political gain. jmo
 

dinglefritz

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To me it was always a case of strange bedfellows, CIA and the MOB. Our government was never going to come out with the truth, it would have led to a revolution or national riots. Oswald was the patsy.
Oswald's ties to the Soviets are undeniable. Was it the mob in cahoots with the mob? Maybe. Maybe it was just a commie wannabe important crazy guy. There's sure a lot of people with motive.
 

konaki

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Oswald's ties to the Soviets are undeniable. Was it the mob in cahoots with the mob? Maybe. Maybe it was just a commie wannabe important crazy guy. There's sure a lot of people with motive.
Oh, I agree Oswald was definitely an unhinged person but the shots that took the life of JFK just didn't seem to come from one direction. Now was Oswald involved? I believe he was but only used as the pasty. The release of the JFK assassination investigation papers has been released but I doubt they will lead to any definite conclusion. jmo
 

konaki

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So may theory's out there so I'll throw this out there:
An intelligence document from 1968 -- previously released in 2018 -- discusses how RFK's assassination stoked interest in his brother's assassination and New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's investigation into the matter.

"The forthcoming trial of Sirhan, accused of the murder of Senator Kennedy, can be expected to cause a new wave of criticism and suspicion against the United States, claiming once more the existence of a sinister 'political murder conspiracy,'" the dispatch said.
 

IM4NUAlways_

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Executed. Just like Epstien amd so many more. We will never know exactly what happened most likly.
 

c3o

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There's a documentary called "Everything is a Rich Man's Trick" or something like that. Goes into depths that make the official story an obvious fabrication. If you're interested on the topic it's a must see.

Remember, JFK had some great ideals - the gold standard, rogue government elements being disbanded including saying he would splinter the CIA into a million pieces.

Every bit of information you see on your teevee is tailored in a way to keep you stupid. I'm dead serious. You live on a tax farm. Freedom is an illusion.
 

Huskermatt23

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I've only skimmed 20 pages or so. Anyone else take a peek at the documents? I know 80,000 pages is a lot of info to digest.

Any early thoughts?
once you make it through the 80k pages can you come back and provide cliff notes?
 

Mr.Scary13

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Still waiting on all of the documents to be released......
 
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I believe the most significant takeaway from these files is the intense fear that gripped America during the Cold War, with the constant worry that it might escalate into a hot war. In the government's efforts to prevent this, however, they inadvertently fostered an atmosphere of secrecy and cover-ups—an air of mystery that persists to this day. People want to believe a conspiracy exists more so than some nut can kill a president given the right situation and opportunity.. it makes people feel too vulnerable.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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I respect all guesses and that what we're all doing just guessing. I don't think Castro and the Soviet Union would have been behind the assassination of JFK because they would have too much to lose if found out. If Castro and the Soviets were behind the assassination and were found out it would have led to an American invasion of Cuba and Castro would have been overthrown and the Soviets would have lost their strategic foothold in the Western Hemisphere. I'm not saying there is no way the Cubans and Soviets were behind the assassination I just view it as unlikely. I'm guessing this was an inside job for political reasons, sounds eerily familiar to a certain extent to me and that's the scary thing. jmo
Plus they would have been suspect #1. Good cover for who did it
 

dinglefritz

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There's a documentary called "Everything is a Rich Man's Trick" or something like that. Goes into depths that make the official story an obvious fabrication. If you're interested on the topic it's a must see.

Remember, JFK had some great ideals - the gold standard, rogue government elements being disbanded including saying he would splinter the CIA into a million pieces.

Every bit of information you see on your teevee is tailored in a way to keep you stupid. I'm dead serious. You live on a tax farm. Freedom is an illusion.

The CIA, KGB and the mob were all capable of having carrying this out. All had a motive
 

Mrs.Jeans15

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Why did Australia not want it to come out they made phone calls to CIA admins before and after the assassination.
 

WHCSC

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I thought it was the secret service agent in the follow car
 

dinglefritz

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proof please
History. There have been multiple documentaries about his support for communism. Sympathizer at the very least. Yeah I grew up watching him every evening too. He started the slide of the media in to blatant politicization of “the news”. Ironically I believe Tom Brokaw was probably the most honest of all the anchors back in the day. He’s a friend of several old friends. Yankton SD grad.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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I know two things for sure about JFK's death:


1) Some people wanted him dead.

2) Some people killed him. ;)
 

TruHusker

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The best comment I’ve heard was that anybody powerful enough to organize the killing of a President was powerful enough to cover up any trace of involvement. My money was and is on the Soviets.
When in doubt, it's always the Russians. They got Trump elected and made Hunter look bad with that laptop plant - oh wait.

If you believe it was the Russians, then Oswald was your guy.
 
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